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Post by Brunt's Left Foot on Nov 9, 2014 6:27:52 GMT -5
Lol. Either you think that the Survivor Series was always meant to be free this year and the six-month commitment was always going to be scrapped in November, or you accept that the network flopping -- which includes the cancellations -- has changed the original plans... Which is an admission that your "people unsubscribing hasn't changed anything" statement was silly. Lack of subscriptions is what's hurting it, not people cancelling. Netflix probably gets a sh*t-ton of cancellations every month (hell I cancelled it last month) but it also gets lots of new subscribers every month. No online service will go six months without having a lot of people cancelling and if you think that, you're very naive.
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Post by Brunt's Left Foot on Nov 8, 2014 18:43:08 GMT -5
Who are these people who have unsubscribed? Whoever they are, they are completely outnumbered by new subscribers. WWE Network subscriptions have only grown, so people unsubscribing hasn't changed anything.Do you think that WWE eliminating the six-month commitment and giving away Survivor Series for free were altruistic gifts from a mega-popular product, rather than desperate attempts to salvage a flop? Do you think all the cost-cutting they've done over the last six months had nothing to do with the poor performance of the network? Dearie me. No, and nor have I said that at any point. *shrug*
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FIFA 15
Nov 8, 2014 14:38:32 GMT -5
Post by Brunt's Left Foot on Nov 8, 2014 14:38:32 GMT -5
That's another thing, why is it so ing difficult to switch which player you're controlling this year? Seems like I have to press L1 a million times before I'm who I want to be - and this is when it's obvious which player I'd want to control i.e. a covering defender or someone closest to a loose ball.
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Post by Brunt's Left Foot on Nov 8, 2014 0:28:18 GMT -5
This game is absolute sh*te in some respects. It's late on, the score is 0-0, his player is through on goal but it's alright my keeper is coming out to smash it pretty easily right? Wrong, he just runs past the ball and his player is able to put it into the back of an empty net. Another game, it's a corner to his team, not the hard to deal with right? Wrong, the keeper somehow flaps at it and puts it into the back of his own net. What the ? Not to mention players continually bumping into each other (sometimes gifting a goal) and the referee always seems to be in the way. It's bullsh*t.
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Post by Brunt's Left Foot on Nov 7, 2014 20:44:06 GMT -5
I agree that a HD television channel would be a lot better....if it contained the same content and wasn't extortionately priced. But I just don't trust WWE and Sky to do those things.
I really think in this day and age, people will pick an Internet service that is cheaper and has more content than an expensive TV channel just for convenience. I mean just look how successful Netflix is.
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Post by Brunt's Left Foot on Nov 7, 2014 20:15:31 GMT -5
Lol. You're doing a pretty good job impersonating someone crying about it. You love the American version of the network, and that's fine, I'd certainly prefer it to a Sky version -- but you're being silly convincing yourself it's more successful than it is, and convincing yourself it'd be much more successful than the Sky channel for WWE. Evidently, all these comments you've seen about "the fans who do have it and feel they are getting a good deal" don't quite cohere with the reality of the rate at which people have unsubscribed, even within the supposed six-month commitment period. lol whatever mate, you're still talking bollocks. Who are these people who have unsubscribed? Whoever they are, they are completely outnumbered by new subscribers. WWE Network subscriptions have only grown, so people unsubscribing hasn't changed anything. I clearly said before that the WWE Network isn't a huge success financially but it doesn't matter because you already have your own agenda. You have nothing to back up anything of what you're saying but you're just putting your fingers in your ears. I've got better things to do than talk with a 7-year old over things that he doesn't understand.
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Post by Brunt's Left Foot on Nov 7, 2014 19:51:09 GMT -5
And again, just to point out, nowhere has it been said that WWE WANTS partners to launch the Network with. It could just as easily be a legal issue.
I keep bringing up people on the internet's thoughts because that is where the majority of subscribers will be coming from. If you're a casual WWE fan who is not on the internet, how would you even know about the Network? Only a small portion of fans stay up until 4am to watch Raw which is the only place they'd be able to hear about the Network. The replays edit out any mentions.
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Post by Brunt's Left Foot on Nov 7, 2014 19:48:03 GMT -5
As you ignored my request for the Canadian numbers, I assume you are just pulling facts out of your arse. You don't know that the Canadian network is successful, nor do you know that most UK fans want Sky Sports WWE. At least mine is based off of something i.e. the reaction from pretty much any UK wrestling fan on the Internet, which is a fairly large number. ...what about all the fans not on the internet or internet-savvy? What about all those casual viewers who don't want to faff about on/with the internet? Of course most fans on the internet will want an internet-based version... I'll be more than happy with a no-hassle TV channel though. Plus, I've only heard good things about the Canadian version... the guys on Live Audio Wrestling (Canadian based) were saying how good it is and how they prefer it to an internet service .As of last year, 83% of homes in the UK have access to the Internet. The only "faff" would be downloading the app and logging in, not exactly complicated. At least no more than phoning your TV provider and subscribing. The Canadian version which had about 10 PPVs on demand when it first launched? That's good is it? Maybe the VOD has improved dramatically since then but I haven't heard many updates. Even if it is more simple to subscribe, you're saying that you think the majority would rather pay more money for less content than have an online service that's cheaper and better? That's mental. And completely unfounded.
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Post by Brunt's Left Foot on Nov 7, 2014 19:38:35 GMT -5
As you ignored my request for the Canadian numbers, I assume you are just pulling facts out of your arse. You don't know that the Canadian network is successful, nor do you know that most UK fans want Sky Sports WWE. Lol. WWE haven't released any numbers for individual countries since the international rollout, so there's no sense in you crying about that -- but they have stated that the Canadian rollout exceeded expectations, which neither the US version of the network nor the total numbers since the worldwide launch so far has done. Again -- if internet crying and praise was an indicator of success or failure, then the "critically acclaimed" version of the WWE network would be successful in their major market and the company wouldn't be making severe cuts to try and make 2015 a break-even financial year to recover from the $40million losses they've had this year. Nor would they be wanting partners for their UK launch. And people asking how to do it are unable to find the answers anywhere, are they? Don't be a silly boy. Have a little google of the words how to get the WWE network in the UK or something similar, that'll tell you all you need to know. It's faster to google that than it is to send WWE an angry tweet. Anybody who chooses the latter over the former is more concerned with complaining than they are with accessing the WWE network. If you really think that there are substantial numbers of UK fans who desperately want the WWE Network as an internet service and have access to Twitter but not Google, there isn't really much help I can give you. I'm not crying about it, it's called you talking bollocks and being called out on it. If you actually believe everything WWE says, then you are incredibly gullible. They said the total subscribers exceeded expectations too, does that mean the Network is a success then? I'm not saying the Network is a massive success but the fact that the fans who do have it like it and feel they are getting a good deal is much better than the Canadian version which not only do we have no evidence is a financial success, but is also a critical failure. Why do you think WWE had to continually tell people how to get the Network in the first place? Because people aren't bright. They need everything spelled out to them. Believe or not, some people will not have even thought to Google how to get it in the UK. Your point about people complaining instead of subscribing is completely unfounded. There's proof in this very thread for god's sake, that people didn't know how to get the Network in the UK until now despite in being available since February. Hell, there's still people now who don't understand that Raw and SmackDown do not air live on the Network. And I don't need to Google it cheers, had it since it first launched in February. Thanks for your concern though.
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Post by Brunt's Left Foot on Nov 7, 2014 17:17:36 GMT -5
The majority of UK fans on the Internet would much rather have a US-style network than "Sky Sports WWE". Fixed. The reality is that a lot that anybody in the UK who really wants the US-style WWE Network has had the ability to get it since February on pretty much all platforms except Android. The 730,000 subscriber number actually includes many, many thousand UK subscribers. If people are desperate for the US-style WWE network, they can already get it -- I had it for the first six months. And WWE is aware that a lot of their current subscribers are from non-US countries. Offering the UK the same thing isn't going to result in a very significant bump in membership, because the people who want it most are already subscibers. Offering it as a TV station opens it up to the people who haven't quite made the leap to OTT services yet, which is the group that can offer a significant bump. And at lower cost (due to partnering with Sky) and a higher price point for a weaker service. As you ignored my request for the Canadian numbers, I assume you are just pulling facts out of your arse. You don't know that the Canadian network is successful, nor do you know that most UK fans want Sky Sports WWE. At least mine is based off of something i.e. the reaction from pretty much any UK wrestling fan on the Internet, which is a fairly large number. The idea that most people even know about getting around the Network region block is ludicrous, as evidenced by the fact that even online (where people are more likely to have heard such a thing) most contains people asking how to do it. I've already helped about a dozen people online who didn't know what to do or how to do it. Again, you don't know that the Network subscribers contain "many, many thousand UK subscribers". That's just you making facts up. When the Network was delayed a few days ago, there were thousands on Twitter who were furious. If they knew how to get the US Network, why would they be? They wouldn't. They were expecting an OTT service just like in the US and were pissed off when they didn't get it. And I guarantee most of those people still don't know how to get the US version of the Network and they probably aren't interested in Sky Sports WWE given the reaction the idea has received.
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Post by Brunt's Left Foot on Nov 7, 2014 17:00:18 GMT -5
Vince McMahon documentary/book. ?
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Post by Brunt's Left Foot on Nov 7, 2014 16:53:29 GMT -5
Uh....how do you figure that? The US Network has been critically acclaimed while the Canadian one is universally panned. I can't imagine it's been much of a financial success either considering it's apparently only available to a small portion of the country. The US version may have been great for the fans - but that doesn't take away the fact that WWE shares are down and the subscriber number is nowhere near where they want it. And just look at the recent changes (no monthly commitment, November free)... it reeks of desperation. Not to mention, since The Network, they're basically pricing every PPV - including Wrestlemania - at $9.99... from a business standpoint, they seen to have put all their eggs in one basket and shot themselves in the foot. I can't help thinking they should have released a similar service, minus the monthly PPV's - yes, the subscriber number would be much lower, but you'd also have all the PPV buys. $50-$60 PPV buys too. True, but that doesn't mean going the Canadian way is the right answer either. The majority of UK fans would much rather have a US-style network than "Sky Sports WWE".
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Post by Brunt's Left Foot on Nov 7, 2014 16:43:18 GMT -5
Uh....how do you figure that? The US Network has been critically acclaimed while the Canadian one is universally panned. I can't imagine it's been much of a financial success either considering it's apparently only available to a small portion of the country. Uh... Because the reality is, that the "critically acclaimed" version is flopping very hard and the "universally panned" version is actually proving viable based on the numbers at the current limited availability. If you thought the American network was working and the Canadian one wasn't, you must have been very confused as to why WWE is desperately looking to partner up with Sky for it over here. Where are the numbers for just Canada? I haven't seen them posted. As for why WWE "want" Sky to partner with them (which we don't even know), there are multiple reasons. More than anything, it's probably a legal matter. WWE can't just give away PPVs that they're supposed to be providing Sky with to charge £15 for.
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Post by Brunt's Left Foot on Nov 7, 2014 16:28:55 GMT -5
I know man my heart dropped when I read that about an hour ago and il still freakingn out. This is so so so so so bad No, it's the opposite of that. It shows that Ryback is getting a big push this time around. He'll be over as and he'll be in the main event of Survivor Series. Nothing but good news for Ryback and his fans.
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Post by Brunt's Left Foot on Nov 7, 2014 16:15:51 GMT -5
I don't think the Sky customer service people know anything yet, so it's best not to take them too seriously. But if true: I question why WWE would go this route. Because the American (WWE's biggest market) version of the network has been a flop. The Canadian (WWE's third biggest market) version of the network hasn't. They want the UK (WWE's second biggest market) version to be more successful than the flopped one. Uh....how do you figure that? The US Network has been critically acclaimed while the Canadian one is universally panned. I can't imagine it's been much of a financial success either considering it's apparently only available to a small portion of the country.
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Post by Brunt's Left Foot on Nov 4, 2014 16:52:58 GMT -5
Wonder how long it'll take Ronaldo to get out of Kolo Toure's back pocket....
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Post by Brunt's Left Foot on Nov 3, 2014 17:14:51 GMT -5
Woohoo, top of the table!
*RANDOM FIXTURE* Birmingham 1-2 Cardiff
Saturday 8th November 2014 Liverpool 1-1 Chelsea Burnley 0-1 Hull Man Utd 3-1 Crystal Palace Southampton 2-1 Leicester West Ham 2-2 Aston Villa QPR 1-3 Man City
Sunday 9th November 2014 Sunderland 0-0 Everton Tottenham 1-1 Stoke West Brom 2-2 Newcastle Swansea 1-2 Arsenal
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Post by Brunt's Left Foot on Nov 3, 2014 17:11:22 GMT -5
*RANDOM FIXTURE* Birmingham v Cardiff
Saturday 8th November 2014 Liverpool v Chelsea Burnley v Hull Man Utd v Crystal Palace Southampton v Leicester West Ham v Aston Villa QPR v Man City
Sunday 9th November 2014 Sunderland v Everton Tottenham v Stoke West Brom v Newcastle Swansea v Arsenal
WF: UK Premier League Prediction League Table After Week 10: ---------------------------------------- 1. Camahino - 76pts 2. Himmy! - 75pts 3. Hammersmith Hardman - 71pts 4. Controversial Maverick PUNK - 68pts 5. Red Dragon - 68pts (C) 6. Markw - 67pts 7. GBM - 64pts 8. wyleecyotee - 63pts 9. BladeDJK - 60pts 10. Scott! - 60pts 11. Titch - 59pts 12. wwextreme25 - 50pts
All predictions must be in by 12:44pm Saturday afternoon. Correct me if I've gotten any points wrong.
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Post by Brunt's Left Foot on Nov 3, 2014 16:49:14 GMT -5
Oh wow, "The launch of WWE Network in the U.K. has been delayed until further notice." Unbelievable. ...where did you see this quote? I tried to join about 20 minutes ago, but there wasn't an option for "United Kingdom" in the countries... it didn't say anything else. WWE.com, Twitter etc.
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Post by Brunt's Left Foot on Nov 2, 2014 20:17:59 GMT -5
You could just check it yourself, it's free. Well I'd rather use the free month for the US version if we're significantly lacking in the amount of content. To some people though, missing some PPV's isn't a big issue hence why I asked. It's apparently going to be exactly the same. If it's not just use a VPN. It's easy.
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