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Post by voicesinmyhead on Jan 25, 2021 19:32:02 GMT -5
He’s 33 years old. He’s still in his prime. He’s not a legend... yet. We obviously have different definitions of the word. If the only one you can argue is okada then that still proves my point. NO ONE should be calling Cody Rhodes or Jon Moxley a legend. That’s laughable. Also, that’s a little presumptuous to think that EVERYONES favorite Japanese wrestler is Okada. That’s just downright false. Maybe a ton of people would vote for him as the best wrestler but he’s not the most popular wrestler in NJPW. Simply debatable. He's 33 and has been working the most physically demanding style in the world for nine years. He's not in his prime anymore, he's not even what ve was when he worked with Kenny. He's an all time great worker, a legitimate drawing card and he's historically significant. That's a legend by any definition regardless of his age. I also argued Tanahashi and Kenny...because they both have solid arguments. Both are historically significant, both have track records of being among the best in the world at various points in the last decade and the wrestling landscape as it is now would look VERY different without them. Again, track record + drawing ability (Kenny drew the highest PPV buyrate of any non-WWF/WCW promotion ever and did so at a $50 price point in an era where the Network had existed for 5 years...you can't argue this point) + historical significance = legends. You're caught up on their age, not their accomplishments and significance which is what makes legends. I never said anything about Moxley or Cody either, so I'm not sure why you referenced them to me. I didn't say their names. Neither of them have really done anything on the level of the other three. I am referencing Mox and Cody because they were named in the original post that I responded to. You argued for the others when my main gripe was about Mox and Cody. Tanahashi is a legend as I already stated but Kenny and Okada are debatable. But using the term legend to describe Cody and Mox is definitely using the term incorrectly. Kenny is not a legend just because he sold a $50 pay per view. The guy had one short world championship reign in NJPW and is a current world champion in a new organization. Far from being a legend... How about you read the original post I responded to before trying to join the conversation after the fact?
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Jan 25, 2021 17:02:27 GMT -5
I believe if you're international, nothing changes. NBC is paying WWE... ...for the next five years. It's 4.99 for a version with commercials or 9.99 for commercial free. So you could either save money or pay the same. No price hike. Oh and it's over, Vince failed. How did Vince fail? He just made even MORE money. I think that’s a win for him.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Jan 25, 2021 16:57:40 GMT -5
It’s also too early to call Okada a legend. He had a legendary title reign. There’s a big, BIG difference. He’ll be referred to as a legend one day but he is not a legend yet. It's really not too early if you look at everything he's done since returning in 2012. He holds the record for most defenses of the IWGP Title, longest reign, was the big star Bushiroad poured the marketing money into to save New Japan when they bought it in 2012 and that company's turnaround saved the scene as a whole. His match with Kenny brought people into the fold that would have never even touched Japanese wrestling before and he's replaced Muta and Liger as everyone's pick for their favorite Japanese wrestler. Very few wrestlers in the last two decades have had the impact on their home promotion, much less the wrestling scene in that country (New Japan's resurgence after the Bushiroad buyout literally brought Japanese wrestling back from the brink, there were a lot of us that legitimately didn't know if certain companies would survive to 2013-2014), as Okada. He did what people pretend that Punk did in 2011 or Bryan did in 2014: he actually brought back fans and brought in a ton of new ones. More people in Japan (and internationally) are watching New Japan now than did a decade ago and that was built on his back. You don't have to wait 20 years to acknowledge that he's a legend, he's one right now. He’s 33 years old. He’s still in his prime. He’s not a legend... yet. We obviously have different definitions of the word. If the only one you can argue is okada then that still proves my point. NO ONE should be calling Cody Rhodes or Jon Moxley a legend. That’s laughable. Also, that’s a little presumptuous to think that EVERYONES favorite Japanese wrestler is Okada. That’s just downright false. Maybe a ton of people would vote for him as the best wrestler but he’s not the most popular wrestler in NJPW. Simply debatable.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Jan 25, 2021 12:43:38 GMT -5
You are using the term legend very loosely here... In Japan Okada and Tana definitely are and maybe even Omega is. And I think by the time they hang them up Mox and Cody definitely will. I think Mox already is after his WWE and AEW Title reign Saying “by the time they hang them up” is different then calling them a legend at the moment. And Moxley is not a “legend” for having ONE world title reign in each promotion. That’s just silly. Cody and Mox are still in their prime. Hold your horses before referring to them as legends.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Jan 25, 2021 12:41:57 GMT -5
You are using the term legend very loosely here... I mean... WWE call Alicia Fox a "Legend", so... 🤷♂️ They are the only ones that do haha.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Jan 25, 2021 12:41:16 GMT -5
You are using the term legend very loosely here... Tanahashi was a top guy in the number two promotion in the world for over a decade and was the stop gap between New Japan's total collapse and the Bushiroad era. Okada is one of the biggest draws of the post Monday Night War wrestling world and was the guy Bushiroad hand picked when they bought New Japan and flooded the marketing money in and saved the company and the entire Japanese wrestling scene. An entire country's wrestling scene thrived because of him. If those two aren't considered modern legends, I don't want to hear about 2000s or 2010s WWE guys who were on top when the popularity slid or even crashed if we're talking about modern legends. Kenny has an argument too-- there's a major, successful promotion on TNT right now that exists in large part because of him--, and I get that this board has always skewed heavily towards "it only counts if it's WWE" but saying Okada and Tanahashi aren't legends is some real ignorant and uninformed thinking. Tanahashi is a legend. No doubt. I didn’t get that far because I was flabbergasted at the fact that someone would call Cody and Moxley “Legends.” It’s also too early to call Okada a legend. He had a legendary title reign. There’s a big, BIG difference. He’ll be referred to as a legend one day but he is not a legend yet.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Jan 24, 2021 22:31:19 GMT -5
I’m massively biased but I’d also put Rollins in there too. Ya he probably should be included as well.I would also add guys like Rhodes,Moxley,Omega,Okada,Tanahashi...ect
You are using the term legend very loosely here...
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Jan 12, 2021 19:08:06 GMT -5
I wish Drew a speedy recovery but it depends if he asymptomatic without having any symptoms. Back in late September me and my wife went to get tested for Covid (Nose and Blood-antibodies) and I tested positive (nose) and negative (blood-antibodies) and I had to quarantine for 2 weeks (14 day) and I retested after the 14th day and it was negative on both the nose and blood-antibodies. Hopefully he should be ready for the Rumble. Forgive my ignorance but why quarantine when you can simply wear a mask to not infect others? Is this a serious question? You can’t possibly be asking this nearly a year into a pandemic...
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Jan 5, 2021 19:39:09 GMT -5
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Jan 4, 2021 15:41:12 GMT -5
How did you know? Has he done this before? I legit did not even realize that this was my original thread until I saw notifications on my account. As for your comment about AJ, I believe the issue was more with how Cena's 16th title reign should have been more important than simply a transition to Bray. I believe that is what I was going for, but again this was YEARS ago. I can't even believe it was bumped up lol. I didn’t know who it was just by seeing the thread pop up. Frankly I thought it was a brand new thread, pretty sure I wasn’t even a member here when it was created. I almost made a post before seeing the date on the first post. Just when I went to the last page and saw who bumped the thread I wasn’t surprised. Oh haha. I didn’t even know it was my thread, let alone have it be from years ago.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Jan 4, 2021 14:54:37 GMT -5
Not surprised as to who/why this was bumped lol. But as far as the actual thread is concerned, I don’t understand the complaint regarding Styles vs. Shane. What does AJ losing the title at Rumble or Chamber have to do with the Mania feud with Shane? How did you know? Has he done this before? I legit did not even realize that this was my original thread until I saw notifications on my account. As for your comment about AJ, I believe the issue was more with how Cena's 16th title reign should have been more important than simply a transition to Bray. I believe that is what I was going for, but again this was YEARS ago. I can't even believe it was bumped up lol.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Jan 4, 2021 14:50:47 GMT -5
I am really not trying to add to all of the complaining that I see on the boards all the time, but there are quite a few problems that I had with the build-ups to WrestleMania. I will just name a few: AJ Styles vs. Shane I really enjoyed this match and I was actually looking forward to it beforehand. I was never one to talk down about this match because it isn't good enough for AJ. My problem is how his title reign ended beforehand. I do not believe that Cena should have won the title at the Rumble, just to lose it to Bray a month later. If the plan was to always give Bray the belt, then Bray should have won it in the Chamber with Aj walking in as the champion. I am not saying that Cena should have never become a 16-time world champion, but it should have been built up more and it should have happened where he could have a lengthy reign afterwards. Alexa vs. Smackdown Women's Roster First off, matches like these are always garbage. You can smell from a mile away that it was slapped together to get everyone on the card. This should have been a 1 on 1 match with Naomi AND ALexa should not have lost the title until WrestleMania. Naomi should have lost the first time around and then finally win the title in her hometown at Mania. Instead, Naomi wins, gets hurt, Alexa wins for the time being, and Naomi wins again. Bray vs. Randy I thought this feud went the opposite direction then what would make sense as a cohesive story. I do not believe that Bray or Orton should have won the rumble. It did not make sense for Orton to win the rumble before turning on Bray. And there is no tension int he meantime because Bray was not champion yet. The only way that would have worked correctly is if Bray was champion at the time of the Rumble. Instead, Bray should have won at the chamber, and Orton could have simply turned on him. Simple as that. There was no need to throw another Rumble victory on Orton. Also, they messed up Harper during this feud. Best case scenario would have been to have Harper in the match as a three-way. Lesnar vs. Goldberg This is an easy one... This should NOT have been for the title. This never needed to be for the title. The story was there. Plain and simple. Having the title in this match ruined the Jericho/ Owens storyline and has now put the Universal Title picture on hold. Smackdown Title Picture They should have saved the Usos title win for WrestleMania. I don't care fi they used it for the pre-show, but ti should have been somewhere on the card. Or, at least have the rematch ont he card. Jericho vs. Owens And lastly, what should have been the best feud of the year... This has been building for months, and for those that say that this match didn't need the title are wrong. This entire feud was based around the title. Jericho was constantly saving his friend in title matches to keep the Universal title. AND Owens also helped Jericho win the US title. This match should have been for both titles, or they should have found some way to get the US title off of Jericho before the match. There current feud over the US title matches no sense because the US title was never the focus of this feud. In my opinion, Jericho should have been the one to win the Rumble. He would challenge Owens for the title and win at Wresltemania. They would continue to feud until Jericho leaves for his tour and Owens would leave the feud as champion. This would end at the perfect time for Balor to return and challenge Owens for the title he never actually lost. You could even throw Seth in the mix afterwards since he was in that match with Balor for the title. Thoughts? If you don’t like WrestleMania’s don’t watch. Did you bump up a thread of mine from years ago because I (along with almost every WF member) did not agree with your RR thoughts? That is sad dude. Real sad.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Jan 3, 2021 17:51:46 GMT -5
Yes... the way it was meant to be. No popfindr is “happy hunting.” Not the best idea to go into stores for no reason during a pandemic. I am talking fig hunting in general. I am not taking the pandemic into consideration. All of these people complaining don't want popfindr because they are afraid to leave their house in a pandemic. All of these people want popfindr to know the number son hand and not waste their time. I understand why they want it, but that is not how toy hunting is supposed to be. That was a luxury for a time and that is it. What do you think people did years ago? There was no popfindr. And also, websites like popfindr aid the scalpers. No thank you. But again, NOTHING to do with the pandemic. If you are so afraid to leave your house, then use Ringside. Simple as that.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Jan 3, 2021 17:40:06 GMT -5
We can debate new rules until we are blue in the face but one thing we can all agree with is Finlay just allowing Becky Lynch into the Rumble because she walked down the ramp and asked was the most bag over the head slap in the face insulting moment to the fans in Royal Rumble history. Macho Man being allowed back in after eliminating himself a close second. No one is looking to debate new rules... you’re the only one that wants new rules. And it is obvious why the clock is not shown the entire time. The intervals are not consistent. The time varies depending on how long it takes to finish certain entrances, spots, etc. It’s wrestling. It’s entertainment. It’s a show. If you don’t like the Rumble because you don’t see the clock the whole time then you really shouldnt watch.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Jan 3, 2021 11:08:44 GMT -5
Pop finder isn’t working, and brickseek hasn’t for Target for awhile So no happy hunting. Frantic and daily hunting.... Yes... the way it was meant to be. No popfindr is “happy hunting.”
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Dec 30, 2020 8:25:26 GMT -5
I received Kane and Triple H, but they were sent in individual plastic-like envelopes. Not a box, and not a bubble mailer. A freakin plastic envelope! They were destroyed beyond repair. I am a MOC collector so this totally sucks. I am hoping to find them in stores so I can replace them.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Dec 26, 2020 18:32:00 GMT -5
I'd be interested to see how out of shape the people who say he's out of shape are. Kevin Owens gets paid to be professional wrestler and part of that job is to be in shape. The person on the other side of the screen could be 500lbs and that has absolutely nothing to do with with the legitimacy of their criticism. Kevin Owens was injured for the better part of a year and came back in the same shape as he left. What was he doing during this time? Trust me, I enjoy Owens and his work, but I do believe that he could put in more effort to his physical appearance.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Dec 22, 2020 23:38:31 GMT -5
So... you’re not caught up on everything? I’m not spending all my money on the chases and blood brothers is out of stock so no I am caught up, actually So you missed out on the blood brothers and don’t want to spend money on the rest but the makes you caught up? The Kenny ring is still in stock and the blood brothers were available for awhile... I’m just not getting how that’s considered caught up. You’re missing four chases between the first two series, 2 ring bundles, and a 2-pack. That’s a lot of figures... Listen. I’m not saying you need these. Everyone has their own rules with their collections, but it’s kind of silly to say you are “caught up” and then quickly follow that up with a list of at least eight figures that you’re missing.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Dec 22, 2020 20:05:07 GMT -5
Caught up on everything now, only things I don’t have accounted for are the chases, Blood Brothers, and the Cody/Kenny from the ring bundles So... you’re not caught up on everything?
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Dec 20, 2020 20:44:49 GMT -5
The better story would be Charlotte turning on Asuka and giving Asuka a solid program for her title.
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