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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 7, 2023 22:09:54 GMT -5
I’m hoping since it’s looking like Hogan is unlikely that people will back this thing so we don’t lose anymore figures. Especially the DDP and Steiner. I seriously doubt that it will get to the DDP and Steiner tiers... by the looks of it, it probably won't get backed at all. I mean, anyone who wanted the stage would surely back it early to get an extra figure (Hogan). Heck, even if you didn't want the figure, you could easily sell/trade it... Like I said whoever picked these figures to come with the crowdfund stage needs to be reprimanded. These are the worst most generic figures I have ever seen. It's like they selected the worst figures with the worst outfits on purpose. Yup. And this isn’t even in hindsight - I (and a lot of other people) said at the time the figures were announced, they were four of the most uninteresting and unexciting figures they could have included. Steiner is/was the only sure-fire pass.
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 7, 2023 21:31:13 GMT -5
I voted Golden Era... but my sweet-spot is basically the early '80s to the early 00s.
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 7, 2023 20:50:50 GMT -5
What we as a community have to understand is that Ultimates or any other type of 6" figure won't be crowdfunded on their own. They will either sell them outright or be part of a larger playset. So after entrance units, New Gen, WCW, RAW and Smackdown Fist, what other large playsets could there be that warrent a high price tag that can support teirs of add-ons? Yeah I understand that. I don’t want Ultimates crowdfunded. I’m saying I only care about the Ultimates that come with crowdfunds. I have no need or use for rings, stages, vehicles, or any other big play set. I only care about what Ultimates come with them. This. And they've got to make them more interesting/worthwhile than 4/5 Nitro stage ones...
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 7, 2023 4:52:41 GMT -5
They should’ve done the Early Bird differently. Who ever joins until April 7 gets a Hulk Hogan, everybody else not. This would have given them the boost needed. I don’t get why people always want to do things differently/better than already established systems. Kickstarter is the blueprint for a crowd fund like this. Why not simply copy and paste their system and you have a project running. 🤷🏼♂️ Mattel are like: "You get a Hulk Hogan figure... and YOU get a Hulk Hogan figure... EVERYBODY GETS A HULK HOGAN FIGURE!!!" 🤭
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 7, 2023 2:58:37 GMT -5
So, it looks like MNW UE Bret will have a molded jacket, not cloth, and new head sculpts. Booo!
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 7, 2023 1:03:39 GMT -5
My figure would be a new UE Hollywood Hogan with the tan, new head/bandana, different shirt/tights design etc. - you'd actually have to put the legs/lower half of the Hollywood UE with the torso of one of the tanned UEs to make the figure... a lot more difficult than just adding a shirt and head, lol. I think Hollywood Hogan is more associated with Nitro too (than red and yellow Hulk). Plus, how many Hollywood Hogans do we have compared to yellow-trunks Hogan... 3? (and one of those was a RSC exclusive). Nope... I could easily afford to back the stage - I've said before though, it's just not something I want 🤷♂️. And FWIW, it costs $644 USD for most international folk... not $400. If it was only $400 for us too, I guarantee the total would be much further along. At this point you’re just talking about your personal preference. You’re describing your fantasy figure that now has a new head too but depicts a hogan you more want. My point was that, all preferences aside, this hogan, because it features a brand new head sculpted and a newly sculpted title belt, isn’t something that can be recreated with a custom and is superior to any straight repaint, if for no other reason than the value it holds for being a higher budgeted figure which is factual since it features parts that will require brand new tooling. 👍 I just think - if they're only making a new head/shirt/belt for the figure, then doing it for a new Hollywood Hogan (rather than a new yellow trunks Hogan) would be far more interesting and a bigger selling-point. That's all. Lots of people have said if the UE Hollywood figure had the tan, it would be the perfect figure... well this would have been an easy/cost-effective way of doing that. Heck, throw in the Hollywood Rules shirt, and even I might have backed the thing 😄.
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 6, 2023 23:46:03 GMT -5
Rey Mysterio... 1 vote. WTF were Mattel thinking, making this the only guaranteed figure? 🤦♂️ That's probably why they did it this way. They figured that the stage itself would be interesting enough to get 5K backers that it wouldn't matter what figure they put at that tier. Seeing how Warrior and Steiner are the two most popular figures in the set by far, they were probably hoping that those two figures alone would drive this thing to 11K. Having Steiner as the early backer figure and Warrior as the initial figure, or vice versa, and Hogan and Rey at the last two tiers, they probably figured it would never even get close to 9K or 11K. I understand this logic... buuuuut with the price increase over the New Gen set - and the sheer size of the stage - wouldn't it have been better to front-load it (with Steiner and Warrior) to make sure it actually gets made?
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 6, 2023 23:25:40 GMT -5
gotta be honest, i don't think i'd get any of these individually. maybe if they did rey/eddie '97 pair of ultimates, i would get that. otherwise, these are just accessories for the nitro stage which looks to fail. I think I'd only get Steiner and maybe DDP... but still be p!$$ed it's not the jeans version 😄.
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 6, 2023 23:20:57 GMT -5
Talk about easy to recreate as a custom… nah. That’s a horrible idea. Most people under normal circumstances would take a new head and new belt over a repaint any day of the week. My figure would be a new UE Hollywood Hogan with the tan, new head/bandana, different shirt/tights design etc. - you'd actually have to put the legs/lower half of the Hollywood UE with the torso of one of the tanned UEs to make the figure... a lot more difficult than just adding a shirt and head, lol. I think Hollywood Hogan is more associated with Nitro too (than red and yellow Hulk). Plus, how many Hollywood Hogans do we have compared to yellow-trunks Hogan... 3? (and one of those was a RSC exclusive). Nope... I could easily afford to back the stage - I've said before though, it's just not something I want 🤷♂️. And FWIW, it costs $644 USD for most international folk... not $400. If it was only $400 for us too, I guarantee the total would be much further along.
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 6, 2023 21:56:54 GMT -5
I think DDP, Steiner, Booker T, Luger, and Flair would have been a better set of 5. Just now kinda setting in how weird Red and Yellow Hogan comes off when nWo Hogan is more closely tied to this era of Nitro.Exactly. Make it a new Hollywood Hogan (with the tan) and a break-away Nitro announce table... 😎
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 6, 2023 21:26:22 GMT -5
It is literally being included as an incentive to make people back the set early. It’s free… right or wrong? What do you really expect for free? The last free incentive didn’t have any new parts at all. Just accessories that were new. This has a brand new head. I don’t know what you thought they’d give you for free… a first time in the line figure with new torso arms and legs? Be realistic. And again - it's an incentive to get people to back the set early... right or wrong? Including a figure that just has a new head and a shirt doesn't seem much of an incentive... as it is proving. You can still be more creative with existing parts - eg. if they wanted Hogan in there, why not make a new/different/repainted Hollywood Hogan figure? There's only ever been one UE of him - and people have actually been wanting a new UE Hollywood with the tan. Well put one in here... exclusive to the set. It would have certainly been more interesting than another UE in yellow trunks. And just throwing it out there, why not also include something like a Nitro announce desk or booth with the earlybird figure? Heck, they have a lot of the parts from the New Gen set last time. Mix things up a bit - and actually make the figure an incentive, rather than just an extra figure with a new head and shirt.
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 6, 2023 20:18:05 GMT -5
Regardless though - basically adding a different shirt and a new head to an easily available UE figure isn't really much of an incentive, when you're trying to get/attract early backers. It’s literally just being thrown in for free. That’s less reason to expect a figure with a bunch of newly molded parts. It is literally being included as an incentive to make people back the set early.
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 6, 2023 19:42:41 GMT -5
Kind of mental he won’t just concede that you can easily achieve Hogan’s WCW look with that ultimate and a custom made shirt. How's that stage looking behind him though? ...a lot easier to display than Mattels... 🤭
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 6, 2023 19:33:07 GMT -5
I love when people prove my point exactly. The figures are 90% identical minus accessories that are easily found elsewhere, thank you for agreeing. The head and accessories account for way more than 10% I can point to 3 elites Seth Rollins figures where all that’s different is the paint deco of the tights. You think those figures are 90% different? Then you know nothing about figures. Regardless though - basically adding a different shirt and a new head to an easily available UE figure isn't really much of an incentive, when you're trying to get/attract early backers.
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 6, 2023 18:56:30 GMT -5
Rey Mysterio... 1 vote. WTF were Mattel thinking, making this the only guaranteed figure? 🤦♂️
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 6, 2023 1:27:17 GMT -5
I hope the UE Bret has a soft-goods/removable jacket (like the DM ones), rather than the plastic/swappable arms ones the recent UEs have had... it probably won't though.
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 5, 2023 23:06:14 GMT -5
I'd prefer if they make it red blue like the elite. Cause thats more iconic. I do have the elite as well. Yeah, I prefer the Elite gear too.
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 5, 2023 22:48:32 GMT -5
If this doesn't reach Hogan/5000 backers by Friday, I think quite a few people will be cancelling. And if that's the case, it could be the beginning of the end... why would new people still back the set, when they're definitely getting less? So I think Friday is make-or-break time.
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 4, 2023 8:39:18 GMT -5
I love the people who have no interest in backing this feel they still need to complain about it. We get it. You don’t like the stage and/or figures. That or it’s too expensive. Cool. It’s been a week since it’s been revealed. Why are still obsessed with it if you have no interest in purchasing it? Because (as a Mattel and WWE collector) it's all still very interesting: how well or poorly the set does... what audience there is for it... whether anything can be done about UK/international pricing... the figure selection and details... the marketing of the set (what could have been done differently or better)... Stuff like that.
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 4, 2023 4:58:10 GMT -5
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