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Post by Edgeacution on Apr 1, 2010 1:35:37 GMT -5
Lame post useless blah blah blah..... At least I posted points and had a valid argument. telling people not to say pointless stuff, in a pointless thread. Your opinions don't matter to me. SO I decided to post a angry rant like everyone else. Then dont read my post. Thats the point of a rant its my opinions and I have already stated it was a rant so you wasted your life to answer in this thread. I know I have and will take minutes away from your life that you'll never get back. Oh well you decided to waste your life away and I really could care less.
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Post by Edgeacution on Apr 1, 2010 1:31:19 GMT -5
It is fresh because no one has ever done anything like it! Get over the fact that he's bi and stop focusing on that! TNA is defiantly crossing the line Its fresh because no one has ever done anything like it? Hhhhhmmmm Bi character that kisses men and likes women???.... Does Goldust ring a bell? I should stop focusing on the fact that he is bi? But that is the gimmick that he's bi right? I'll get over the fact that he is bi when he decides to use a better gimmick.... and you might as well say TNA is Cross "dressing their" line.....
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Post by Edgeacution on Mar 31, 2010 21:07:52 GMT -5
I stopped reading after "I lost respect for Flair after he started wrestling again" Seriously people get over it. NOBODY stays retired If you stopped reading then why bother to post??? Its a rant get over it. Theres more to my rant other the Flair and if thats all you read then get over yourself. No one has respect for someone who made a big deal about a retirement and just comeback less than a year to the competition.
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Post by Edgeacution on Mar 31, 2010 21:06:51 GMT -5
I dont see Flair being a gay hater wasnt "Little Natch" gay?
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Post by Edgeacution on Mar 31, 2010 20:59:07 GMT -5
Long rant blah blah blah! Lame post useless blah blah blah..... At least I posted points and had a valid argument.
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Post by Edgeacution on Mar 31, 2010 20:55:43 GMT -5
To people bashing OJ: He has charisma, and how is he boring? People poop over a amtch that consists of 4 arms bars, 3 knee drops and 17 headlocks and the finish is a ing fist drop just because its from the 80's. Thats BORING, not Orlando coming out to the ring with something FRESHIts not fresh... Hes bi we get it... Its not interesting nobody cares that he is bi. If he was talented then why use his personal life as a gimmick? Charisma isnt coming out of the closet. Charisma is grabbing someones attention and have them not change the channel.
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Post by Edgeacution on Mar 31, 2010 19:08:01 GMT -5
I dont often agree with Voyager and I'm not necessarily doing so here in refence to the other poster, however I do believe that the wrestling community as a whole just doesnt give TNA any credit for anything they do. If WWE does the same exact thing one week then they are labled as cool, edgey, funny, or it's just called dumb and people move on. TNA uses a variety of things to get fans interested as well as put on some quality wrestling and what do they have to show for it? .6 rating? While WWE RAw shows us a night full of recaps, and half naked guys in a hot tub sitting around all night long, with promos galore and it draws a 3.7. Saying that what TNA tries to do causes the ratings drop is, I think, unfair to them when WWE does the same thing. I think it's become clear that TNA can not compete with WWE on Mondays or any night of the week as far as ratings are concerned because the interest is just not there. They've done everything under the sun aside from have Cena, batista, HHH, taker, and Stone cOld show up on their show, and I doubt even that would help them beat RAW. Point is, Ya cant blame the drop in ratings on TNA not trying or their lack of creativity/storylines. In the past, they were a train wreck, but of late I've been able to follow more of their storylines, and be more entertained by the new things they throw at me each week, then watching the same old stuff over and over again on RAW. DOnt get me wrong, I do enjoy RAW, and WWE does alot of things right from an entertainment standpoint, however, of late TNA has captured my interest more. As anoying as it is, admittedly, it takes you as a viewer to sit down and really get into what TNA is offering for you to enjoy/understand in. In other words, ya kinda have to peer down the line in anticipation of what might/could happen and also allow yourself and TNA the time to see where things are headed. In WWE most people can predict whats gonna happen a mile away. TNA, unfortunately for some, takes some thought. And that's probably why most people tune out, because they cant just turn the tv on and be entertained, they actually have to figure something out. To TNA's misfortune, that's not a good thing, but to their credit, it keeps people who are willing to do that hooked in and coming back. The problem is again, the wrestling fanbase doesnt want to sit and figure stuff out, they wanna sit, watch a few moves, see the finisher and watch their hero win or the villain lose, etc, etc. And there's nothing wrong with that, but that's not TNA. Unfortunatley for them, either you like that type of programming or you dont. So what can TNA do against an established company and fanbase? Nothing, but just continue to put out their product with focus on divsions, championships, storylines, and good wrestling...in that area, i think they're making some strides...for now I have no argument about the not taking in the show as a whole but I merely pointed out that those factors alone do not show a lot of promise and if it continues down the line there will be no TNA. It wont make it out for long not because they arent smart TV. Its because they arent "smart" enough to carry a stronger idea. I like to think or else I wouldnt be able to point out at least 8 characters on the show to prove my point.
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Post by Edgeacution on Mar 31, 2010 14:19:03 GMT -5
Oh ok...WORKING for a video game company makes you creative! Well then you suck at your job; if you can't figure something as simple as a wrestling storyline out! Again you're putting too much thought into the characters; thats evident by your explanation of Abyss and Lethal. Your comment is quite entertaining because it contradicts itself only because you tell me I am bad at my job because I am not creative enough but yet I put too much thought into a character which means I am creative enough to have a an idea and stand point. Yeah I believe that it helps when you are brainstorming that being creative helps a Million dollar game and sells more than its fair share and has had multiple sequels. I consider that a success. And there is a story behind every "storyline" no matter how bad it may be and that is exactly what I meant. Me putting too much thought into a character is better than throwing an idea and keeping it for so long without development or a lame excuse for a development. I would rather sit in a meeting and come up with a better way to run a storyline than to just throw a "ring" on a big wrestler and expect it to be a great idea to showcase his strengths or the idea of using a old gimmick from the 80's and have them just "run with it"for a year and a half. Its as simple as this.... A story is supposed to grab your attention and make you want to know more not bore or confuse your audience.
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Post by Edgeacution on Mar 31, 2010 12:14:18 GMT -5
I didn't read your whole post, but I don't have to to solve your problem.....YOU HAVE NO CREATIVITY!!!! This isn't just with you; it's with a lot of people whose been critiquing TNA since Hogan's arrival. You people think too much and are so staunch in what you want TNA and the stars characters to be; you don't see the characters or storylines for what they really are. For couple examples.... Abyss with Hogan's ring....Isn't meant to be portrayed as "magical". The ring is supposed to symbolize courage, strength and belief in himself. Like for those of you who've seen the "Wizard of Oz". It's the same thing with the Scarecrow, Lion, and Tin-Man. They didn't need a heart, brain or courage...They already had them, but the Wizard gave them symbols to make them believe. This HOF ring is doing the same thing. Jay Lethal "Black Machismo".....His Randy Savage impersonation has made him believe that he is Randy Savage. So he thinks he is going to wrestle the greats of the past. You are hoping for what YOU want to happen; to the point that you don't get it, and don't like it. It would help if you just sat back for once and just watch the show. IT'S THAT SIMPLE!!!! I never asked you to solve anything thats why its call a rant... As for my creativity I think I have a pretty creative mind I mean I work for a video game company so I have to be creative enough to work on games that people enjoy. I never once said it had anything to do with Hogans arrival to TNA I mainly left Hogan out of my piece only because it isnt Hogans fault I cant blame him for the Jay Lethal persona nor can I blame him for the way Abyss was such a huge wuss before the "magical" ring these things were a problem before he got there. Just like I dont blame him for Tomko gaining weight. As for your examples Abyss: If he is proclaimed a monster why go see a therapist and change back into the monster and then go back again to being a wuss? Whats the point of that??? The ring symbolizes nothing because it makes his character less developed meaning he is lost without it. So why even use a prop like that to develop a character? Because it is Hogans ring?!?!?! Please.... if thats the case lose the mask because at this point he could be any other wrestler in the back. If they want a monster build him like one dont make an excuse for him to be one. Jay Lethal: Now here is our problem... His persona is to be "like" Macho Man not "BE" Macho man and if they are going to use this as a way for him to "BE" Macho man they should have had him get hit in the head and wake up that way at least creatively that makes sense since no hit on the head he just took it and decided to play an 80's wrestler is not what a normal person would do no actor plays a role and believes that role for a whole year let alone allow it to go for almost 2 years. Bottom line is the story is still very stale. If they continue to use him this way I see him honestly getting let go not because of talent but because of lack of creativity.
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Post by Edgeacution on Mar 31, 2010 9:48:36 GMT -5
I dont understand what is really going on here on this show.... Now before I get well you dont like TNA... Blah blah blah I actually gave TNA a chance I still watch the show I still will but I really gave it a HUGE chance!!!! here are my reasonings for TNA being lack luster OJ: I really dont see the point in using his personal life relationships as a story line.....so hes bi....who cares. Abyss: Is not a monster and is now a joke... Come on a ring giving him powers??? Why not have him come out in a green costume and call him green lantern? Jay Lethal: Come on now the Macho Man thing was cool for a little while but its stale and old and why is he using old stars names? Did he get hit in the head at some showing that I missed? Ric Flair: Sorry I lost a lot of respect for him since he started wrestling again. Mr. Kenn......Anderson: Same gimmick.... I mean I know it was fun but come on reinvent yourself here was a chance for him to use any idea he may have had to start him up and make his mark but he just came into TNA as he went out of WWE. Beer Money Inc. : I love these guys but they need to stop being the new "3 minute warning". Matt Morgan: Heel, Face,Heel, Face Pick one already since he doesnt seem to be a tweener. Samoa Joe: Seriously.... Stop getting kidnapped to reinvent yourself. Its old real old. Tomko: Lose weight. (BTLS): Why is he on TV??? Hogans lacky? Just needs a paycheck??? Nasy Boys: No..... They were heels in the 80's-90's since then there have been more tag teams that were a lot more "Nasty" then they have been. AJ Styles: Now here is a guy who has talent a great wrestler an awesome talent. However.... He lacks charisma he needs to be an all around entertainer to be a HUGE Superstar I mean I know the die hards of TNA know him but he is not anywhere near a showman with the likes of Stone Cold, The Rock, Eddie Guerrero I even dare say Scott Hall in his WCW Hayday and HBK and aligning himself with Flair is also not giving him more charisma its just proves that he needs someone to talk for him.
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Post by Edgeacution on Mar 31, 2010 9:27:29 GMT -5
TNA is way better wrestling then wwe alot of people will not except the truth impact was amazing!!! wwe has been dull for the past year Tna in my mind is the greatest "wrestling" ever PERIOD. So amazing that it got a 0.6 in ratings.... Sorry but I watch both shows and I have to say TNA has no real stabilization. its not running on all gears.
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Post by Edgeacution on Mar 31, 2010 8:03:09 GMT -5
So her excuse is one night HBK retired so it was a reason for low ratings? So what about the declining in ratings in the past month? Wrestlemania? Look I watch both shows and to be honest TNA needs to stop thinking about competing with a company and work on themselves to be a better product so they can reach out and gather more fans.... Build from the ground up. No newborn baby starts to run. TNA just started taking steps and DIXIE and HOGAN wants it to run a marathon.
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Post by Edgeacution on Mar 30, 2010 22:55:59 GMT -5
And if people want to see the same five guys, doing the same five things for the past five years, they can watch a good ol' episode of Monday Night Raw. Insomnia TV, starring Yawn Cena, Blandy Orton, Crippled H, and C list guest hosts! Yea and those guys for the same 5 years brought in a 3.7 rating last night. And while we are on the topic of seeing the same guys and good ol' episodes of wrestling how about we bring Hogan up for topic? How about Nasty Boys? How about Flair (who is retired and forced out of a company BTW), how about the famous and ever changing Scott Hall?? You wanna talk about bland?? AJ Styles maybe the TNA Champ and very talented but Blandy Orton has more charisma than AJ, hell my puppy of 6 months has more charisma. Lets face it if TNA was going to make any impact and try to get ratings it would be to get someone like Blandy Orton to sign with them and find someway for Orton to get out of a 90 no compete clause and show up on TNA....
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Post by Edgeacution on Mar 30, 2010 22:40:24 GMT -5
Yeah it is why does it not look like him?
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Post by Edgeacution on Mar 30, 2010 8:23:26 GMT -5
Happy Birthday Warheart
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Post by Edgeacution on Mar 30, 2010 7:04:43 GMT -5
Joey Eches I sent you his site I hope that helps some
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Post by Edgeacution on Mar 30, 2010 2:57:57 GMT -5
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Post by Edgeacution on Mar 29, 2010 19:28:46 GMT -5
I really never cared about the streak so whoever beats probally wont make a huge difference to me
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Post by Edgeacution on Mar 29, 2010 19:24:21 GMT -5
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Post by Edgeacution on Mar 29, 2010 4:15:29 GMT -5
A great way to show how much they appreciate HBK with this short clip. And seeing him and Bret backstage shows that they have truly ended their long feud. So watching RAW when Bret returned was the end of the demons in HBK's closet and a great way for Bret and him to bury the hatchet.
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