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Post by bad guy™ on Oct 2, 2009 21:45:31 GMT -5
So...let me get this straight. If CC were to have gotten his 20th win tonight, the Yankees surely would have lost the World Series? Did I read that right? And that since he didn't get the win, he's guarenteed to win his next start....or something along those lines? I'm confused. Nothing is guaranteed, but I'm just playing the odds. When you don't have a bad start since the first week in July (like 12 weeks ago), I don't care how good you are, you are DUE for a bad one. I'm just saying that based on how well he's been pitching he was due to have a bad one, and now that he had a bad one, his next one will probably be a good one. I'd hate for his first bad start in 4 months to be a Playoff game.... I feel a lot better going into the Playoffs than I would have if he'd pitched 7 innings of shutout ball, because call me crazy, but I actually believe in "due", and I would still be wondering when the bad one was coming. He could still get hammered Wednesday, or he could have pitched great tonight and pitched great Wednesday too....but I'm just saying that for as good as he's pitched ALL second half, the odds are against him having MULTIPLE horrible outings in a row. Hopefully I cleared myself up with this explanation. So, you're also telling me that CC HAS to have another bad game at some point? He can't "kick it into gear" and be good/great in every outing he has this post-season? I mean, you have a point...it usually happens, and with this being the post-season upcoming...it's the absolute worst time for it. But as you said, NOTHING is guarenteed.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Oct 2, 2009 21:54:06 GMT -5
CC's last loss was July 28 against the Rays in Tampa....coincidence? Who knows. But anytime my ace goes over 3 months in between losses, I'll take it.
The only thing that bothered me tonight was how bush league Tampa is by trying to hit Teixeira in the face because Pena broke his fingers in a game against us and they don't want Tex to get 1 more HR and take the MLB lead in HR's away from Pena.
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Post by carly1988 on Oct 2, 2009 21:55:44 GMT -5
Too bad its not like beer league softball where you can purposely hit back up the middle at the pitcher
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Oct 2, 2009 21:56:16 GMT -5
Nothing is guaranteed, but I'm just playing the odds. When you don't have a bad start since the first week in July (like 12 weeks ago), I don't care how good you are, you are DUE for a bad one. I'm just saying that based on how well he's been pitching he was due to have a bad one, and now that he had a bad one, his next one will probably be a good one. I'd hate for his first bad start in 4 months to be a Playoff game.... I feel a lot better going into the Playoffs than I would have if he'd pitched 7 innings of shutout ball, because call me crazy, but I actually believe in "due", and I would still be wondering when the bad one was coming. He could still get hammered Wednesday, or he could have pitched great tonight and pitched great Wednesday too....but I'm just saying that for as good as he's pitched ALL second half, the odds are against him having MULTIPLE horrible outings in a row. Hopefully I cleared myself up with this explanation. So, you're also telling me that CC HAS to have another bad game at some point? He can't "kick it into gear" and be good/great in every outing he has this post-season? I mean, you have a point...it usually happens, and with this being the post-season upcoming...it's the absolute worst time for it. But as you said, NOTHING is guarenteed. Look, there is no guarantee at ANYTHING....but the bottom line is the more times you do something well, basic statistical analysis says that EVENTUALLY you're going to have a poor outing EVENTUALLY. This goes with baseball and EVERYTHING in life. Name me ONE thing that somebody has a 100% success rate besides Charlie Brown NOT being able to kick the football.
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Post by carly1988 on Oct 2, 2009 21:59:47 GMT -5
So, you're also telling me that CC HAS to have another bad game at some point? He can't "kick it into gear" and be good/great in every outing he has this post-season? I mean, you have a point...it usually happens, and with this being the post-season upcoming...it's the absolute worst time for it. But as you said, NOTHING is guarenteed. Look, there is no guarantee at ANYTHING....but the bottom line is the more times you do something well, basic statistical analysis says that EVENTUALLY you're going to have a poor outing EVENTUALLY. This goes with baseball and EVERYTHING in life. Name me ONE thing that somebody has a 100% success rate besides Charlie Brown NOT being able to kick the football. We need to just hope this isnt the start of CC's typical October numbers. Girardi has managed him very well this year but stats are stats and CCs are terrible in October
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Oct 2, 2009 22:11:27 GMT -5
Look, there is no guarantee at ANYTHING....but the bottom line is the more times you do something well, basic statistical analysis says that EVENTUALLY you're going to have a poor outing EVENTUALLY. This goes with baseball and EVERYTHING in life. Name me ONE thing that somebody has a 100% success rate besides Charlie Brown NOT being able to kick the football. We need to just hope this isnt the start of CC's typical October numbers. Girardi has managed him very well this year but stats are stats and CCs are terrible in October I think Sabathia's October problems have been due to being overworked. He made like 5 starts in a row on 3 days rest down the stretch for the Brewers last year to even get them INTO the Playoffs, and then once they got there he was either burned out or he was "due" for a bad one. Right now he's on a staff where he's got 2 other guys in A.J. Burnett and Andy Pettitte who are more than capable of carrying their own load and taking the ball every time it's their turn...CC has been DOMINANT in the 2nd half, but he hasn't been overworked, nor has he had to carry the team on his shoulders and be the ONLY pitcher that could win a game down the stretch like he was last year on the Brewers or like what happened to the Mets with Santana last year where nobody could except him. Anything can happen, and baseball is one of those games where on any given night you could pitch your ace against somebody else's rookie and the rookie might win and completely shut you down and your ace could get pounded.... As long as CC is healthy, and Teixeira is healthy after he might have fallen on that left wrist tonight after Tampa intentionally hit him......,If we're healthy I like our chances because we do have a really good team.
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Post by bad guy™ on Oct 2, 2009 22:17:06 GMT -5
So, you're also telling me that CC HAS to have another bad game at some point? He can't "kick it into gear" and be good/great in every outing he has this post-season? I mean, you have a point...it usually happens, and with this being the post-season upcoming...it's the absolute worst time for it. But as you said, NOTHING is guarenteed. Look, there is no guarantee at ANYTHING....but the bottom line is the more times you do something well, basic statistical analysis says that EVENTUALLY you're going to have a poor outing EVENTUALLY. This goes with baseball and EVERYTHING in life. Name me ONE thing that somebody has a 100% success rate besides Charlie Brown NOT being able to kick the football. Fair enough. I think I'm going to have to take back my Leyland comment by the end of the night. KC's catching up quick. I wonder if they will be able to pull out the comeback? And...it's a miracle. The Pirates somehow managed to avoid the dreaded -100 again this season. ;D Hey....when it's all you have to look forward to, hoping they don't hit -100...it means a lot. Sad. I know. Maybe next year, under 90 losses is a possibility? I mean...the pitching rotation they have now is not the worst I have seen it, and while the hitting needs a bit (a lot...your choice) of work, it's not the worst I have seen it either. Ah well.
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Post by Jimmy on Oct 2, 2009 22:30:30 GMT -5
Kevin Towers is out as GM of the Padres, sources confirm to SI.com. That's pretty shocking, he's been there forever. Maybe DePodesta will get another shot though, he got ed over last time by the Dodgers.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Oct 2, 2009 22:34:15 GMT -5
Lorenzos reasoning makes 0 sense, wouldnt you want someone who the past 2 years has been AWFUL in the playoffs end the season on a high note? Of course you would, but Lorenzo needs to find something to say considering he was ranting that CC should be the Cy Young, so now he cant use that argument, he needs to come up with something just as silly.
Bravo
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Oct 2, 2009 22:54:25 GMT -5
Lorenzos reasoning makes 0 sense, wouldnt you want someone who the past 2 years has been AWFUL in the playoffs end the season on a high note? Of course you would, but Lorenzo needs to find something to say considering he was ranting that CC should be the Cy Young, so now he cant use that argument, he needs to come up with something just as silly. Bravo You make no sense. If you were a Yankee fan, and CC is going to lose 1 game after being perfect for 4 months, when would you rather have it be? Tonight or Wednesday? What do I give a crap if he wins tonight if he loses Wednesday? The regular season doesn't mean anything to me and THIS GAME TONIGHT means even LESS. He could still lose Wednesday, but my money is AGAINST him having bad back to back outings. You just don't understand baseball or statistical analysis/odds and/or probability.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Oct 2, 2009 23:02:30 GMT -5
Lorenzos reasoning makes 0 sense, wouldnt you want someone who the past 2 years has been AWFUL in the playoffs end the season on a high note? Of course you would, but Lorenzo needs to find something to say considering he was ranting that CC should be the Cy Young, so now he cant use that argument, he needs to come up with something just as silly. Bravo You make no sense. If you were a Yankee fan, and CC is going to lose 1 game after being perfect for 4 months, when would you rather have it be? Tonight or Wednesday? What do I give a crap if he wins tonight if he loses Wednesday? The regular season doesn't mean anything to me and THIS GAME TONIGHT means even LESS. He could still lose Wednesday, but my money is AGAINST him having bad back to back outings. You just don't understand baseball or statistical analysis/odds and/or probability. I dont understand baseball statistical probability and blah blah! SERIOUSLY? Lorenzo, SHOW ME STATS that prove your theory....go for it. THERE ARE NONE! This is just your backwardass reasoning that does not make sense, and has no "statistical analysis/odds/and or probability" It is just you pulling things out of your ass for God knows what reason. There is no guarantee, or odds, that if CC went 8 innings of 1 run ball tonight then he'd get bombed in Game 1....THERE IS NONE! You are just delusional and frankly insane.
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Post by Mac Miller on Oct 2, 2009 23:29:13 GMT -5
Lmao. Why was Jose Molina DH'ing tonight? Thats hilarious. I bet he would have never thought he'd be DH'ing in a major league game. I didn't see the game tonight, but from the highlights and what I have heard CC was terrible. I may have been the self-added pressure of getting that 20th win? With that, I don't know wether to be concerned or worried because if he put that pressure on himself now, he could implode in the playoffs. But add that to he has pitched and won so many big games for us this year, it kind of balances out. We will find out what hes made of in 5 days. The game was pretty meaningless, so it doesn't matter that we lost.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Oct 3, 2009 0:22:50 GMT -5
You make no sense. If you were a Yankee fan, and CC is going to lose 1 game after being perfect for 4 months, when would you rather have it be? Tonight or Wednesday? What do I give a crap if he wins tonight if he loses Wednesday? The regular season doesn't mean anything to me and THIS GAME TONIGHT means even LESS. He could still lose Wednesday, but my money is AGAINST him having bad back to back outings. You just don't understand baseball or statistical analysis/odds and/or probability. I dont understand baseball statistical probability and blah blah! SERIOUSLY? Lorenzo, SHOW ME STATS that prove your theory....go for it. THERE ARE NONE! This is just your backwardass reasoning that does not make sense, and has no "statistical analysis/odds/and or probability" It is just you pulling things out of your ass for God knows what reason. There is no guarantee, or odds, that if CC went 8 innings of 1 run ball tonight then he'd get bombed in Game 1....THERE IS NONE! You are just delusional and frankly insane. Fine. Then I hope Josh Beckett pitches a perfect game tomorrow. Chances are in his Playoff start he will not also do as well as a perfect game. Buehrle didn't win a game for 9 starts after his perfect game.
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Post by Jimmy on Oct 3, 2009 0:26:09 GMT -5
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Oct 3, 2009 0:32:31 GMT -5
Yeah I read about that today.....that's sooooooooooo ed up. I don't understand the whole story. I know he wanted to be frozen because he wanted to some day be "brought back to life".....but was he SUPPOSED to have his head cut off, or did these idiots just cut his head off for no reason? I mean, using it for BP and smashing it with a monkey wrench is ed up regardless.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2009 1:00:50 GMT -5
LA really does not want to win the Western Division.
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Post by Chip on Oct 3, 2009 10:47:40 GMT -5
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Post by Jimmy on Oct 3, 2009 11:39:06 GMT -5
I'm not a Jays fan and even I wanted him gone. He's screwed up that franchise bad.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Oct 3, 2009 13:37:36 GMT -5
That's a rough division to compete in, but Ricciardi certainly did not make it easier for them. The whole Halladay debacle this year was ridiculous.
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Post by Mac Miller on Oct 3, 2009 14:07:06 GMT -5
My fantasy team needs a bigggg start from Kershaw today. Commmeeee onnn Clayyytoonnn.
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