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Post by deskjet on Jan 22, 2010 0:52:49 GMT -5
I forget what year it was but something was mentioned about Jerry Jarret visiting Vince McMahon in Stamford. Nothing much else i belive was said about it. But, my gawd, for a company that is trying to be better or different from WWE, something sure seems strange! I mean everytime a former WWE star comes to TNA..aka Angle, Christian, Rhino, raven, etc...who gets pushed? Certainly not the home stars. I would think that TNA would want to put their talent over the competition, but it rarely happens. And before anyone gripes about " well aj is the champ now" just look back at how many times a former WWE star was world champ compared to a TNA original... Rhino, Raven, Booker t, Angle, Christian, all right out of the gate as opposed to the originals like Aj, Joe,jarret, sting( the last two shouldnt even count). 7 years and TNA has yet to use their own talent to create characters that people are interested in. Furthermore, every chance TNA gets, they are making a reference to WWE or saying the name. What the hell kind of company gives free advertisement to their competitor? Then the storylines. Good lord, tonight took the cake...if you havent seen it..**spoiler** Yes, we got the Orlando screwjob even down to the damn spit  . Again, how in god's name do you call yourself the alternative when you're doin the same damn gimmick... Kennedy does his mic thing, venis with the towel, Fiest or fired? I mean is the creative team that inept and intellectually- disabled that they cant come up with anything new? Can they not see that IMITATION is the highest form of flattery? And this is a stretch but anyone notice how much they use the word impact in wwe?( yea, that's pushin it but still) I know this comes across as crazy but good lord, what other explaination could there be? Feel free to bash away,lol |
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Post by SodaGuy on Jan 22, 2010 0:59:56 GMT -5
"I forget what year it was but something was mentioned about Jerry Jarret visiting Vince McMahon in Stamford. Nothing much else i belive was said about it."  |
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Post by stoningtonj on Jan 22, 2010 1:00:36 GMT -5
while i enjoyed the show...i also wish theyd quit trying to be WWE-2 ...i wouldnt be suprised tho,if Hogan and Bischoff were VKM plants...Itd make sense to me...lol
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Post by slappy on Jan 22, 2010 1:03:55 GMT -5
while i enjoyed the show...i also wish theyd quit trying to be WWE-2 ...i wouldnt be suprised tho,if Hogan and Bischoff were VKM plants...Itd make sense to me...lol There is 100% no way it's true, but imagine if it was, Vince would have pulled off the biggest screw job in the history of wrestling. |
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Post by ICW on Jan 22, 2010 1:12:50 GMT -5
Before I state my personal opinion about the current state of Total Non-Stop Action Wrestling, I want everyone to know that I am not mindlessly bashing TNA. I do not "hate TNA for the sake of hating TNA". You may disagree with my opinions and that's fine...but please, do not bash my opinions or label me as a "TNA hater".
Now with that said...
I have always felt that TNA had potential. They certainly have/had a solid group of wrestlers that I felt could one day lead TNA to greatness - AJ Styles, Christopher Daniels, Samoa Joe, Homicide, Motor City Machine Guns - just to name a few. The biggest problem with TNA, in my opinion, is how they decide to showcase their talent. Some of them have been involved in head scratching story lines, some haven't been pushed to their highest potential...
On top of that, TNA has added some questionable members to their roster throughout the years. I just want to say that I have NO ISSUE with TNA adding former WWE/WCW/ECW talent to their roster...so long as they are quality wrestlers/managers that can still offer something to their roster, perhaps even make one of their "home grown" wrestlers into bigger stars. When I tuned into iMPACT on January 4, I saw the likes of The Nasty Boys, Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, Sean Waltman, Mick Foley, and of course Eric Bishoff and Hulk Hogan dominate the show.
Basically, after that show was over with, I felt as if I saw an old episode of WCW. There was Eric Bishoff, playing his usual authority role, with Hogan/Hall/Nash/Waltman at his side. All of them were wearing black...let's face it, it was the nWo in TNA. That personally aggravated me because I have seen the nWo more times than I can count in the past decade, both in WCW and WWE.
If TNA is truly an alternative to the WWE, then why am I seeing Hogan/Hall/Nash/Bishoff/Waltman prance around like they own the wrestling world? I was cool back in 1997 but it's surely been played out.
Then I see The Nasty Boys on my television screen. The NASTY BOYS! Why would anyone thing that the Nasty Boys were relevant enough to bring into this company? Granted, I understand they are Hogan's friends, but still...the Nasty Boys haven't mattered for over a decade or two (closer to two). Then on top of that, we see the TNA debut of Sean Morely in his Val Venis gimmick. Now seeing Val didn't get me as upset as seeing the Nasty Boys, but still. Val Venis doesn't scream "impact". He more or less screams "irrelevant".
That's my biggest issue with TNA. They seem to just love bringing in talent that's completely irrelevant and, to be quite frank, boring. Instead of really focusing on pushing their own talent the right way, we have to see Hulk Hogan or The Nasty Boys. The fact that the Nasty Boys are even taking up television time is quite frankly aggravating.
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Post by juicewinslow on Jan 22, 2010 1:28:54 GMT -5
I didnt even like The Nasty Boyz when they were young!! lol. Bringing them around is like bringing The Berzerker or Skinner around. Just irrelevant characters that were never great.
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Post by juicewinslow on Jan 22, 2010 1:30:34 GMT -5
Oh and whenever I mention TNA to my dad, he says "I bet Vince owns TNA too."
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Post by No Brokeback on Jan 22, 2010 8:28:40 GMT -5
Surprisingly, I don't mind that Nasty Boyz back. I think they should be going after a younger tag team, rather than the Dudleys...but whatever.
If you've seen most of the shirts in the TNA crowd, quite a few of them had the 'Nastyville' shirts on..so, they're quite marketable..
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Post by jayrod2009 on Jan 22, 2010 10:29:05 GMT -5
I agree that it get annoying when i see WWE related storylines/ect in TNA. But, Wrestling has been around for so long, how much more original stuff can you come up with? Lethal Lockdown is great. I haven't seen feast or fired in any oher company's. TNA is doing the right thing. In order to get bigger, you need to bring in the faces that fans will recognize. Its common sence that WWE is equivalent to the world WRESTLING. So when a guy leaves WWE, it ssmart that TNA scoops him up, cause if a kid sees his face somewhere else, he will most likely follow. Hogan drew new fans, as well as Christian, Angle, Booker, Nash, etc.... Who cares if they are "WWE REJECTS". Which is a rediculess name. We don't call Wolfe a ROH reject. Same as most the TNA roster. We don't call Rey Mysterio a WCW reject. So wtf does it matter? RANT OVER-
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Post by thewholefnshow3 on Jan 22, 2010 11:47:53 GMT -5
Ive been watching TNA as of late, i also think this is my first post within 2 years, I think the Nasty Boys was a good addition to the roster they are marketable, another thing is hopefully if done correctly, which wasnt last night they can help establish younger teams and hopefully build a solid division, i would like to see london get picked up and have the Hooliganz back. I think they do need to trim down the roster though, otherwise theyd have to add another show. Ohh and on the whole Jarrett at WWE headquarters he was getting a discovery of his a WWE contract, plus money for his pocket
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Post by Boy Wonder on Jan 22, 2010 11:49:50 GMT -5
I don't mind Anderson and Venis keeping their gimmicks. Thats just part of who they are. Imagine if Bret Hart showed up in WCW with some new gimmick.
Everything else I agree on though, Hogan gave me such high hopes with his hype for the new product, but man, the past couple shows have been just downright "bleh"
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Post by ICW on Jan 22, 2010 11:55:52 GMT -5
The thing that has blown my mind the past 24/7 is that some people (I don't want to call anyone out, they know who they are) have been praising the "Orlando Screw job" angle and are saying "wrestling's been around forever so it's likely that storylines will be repeated in other organizations".
Wait a minute...
The Montreal Screw job was one of the most controversial, real life screw overs in professional wrestling history! Because of that screw job, we didn't see Bret Hart for a little over 12 YEARS. When I saw TNA replicate that storyline, they came off as pathetic. One, you know it's not the real screw job like Montreal was. And 2, people will automatically think "man, they're copying WWE" which is pathetic in it of itself.
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Post by j2dacversion3 on Jan 22, 2010 12:02:16 GMT -5
Pretty sure Booker T was never TNA Champ.
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Post by ZMaster on Jan 22, 2010 12:21:21 GMT -5
Pretty sure Booker T was never TNA Champ. He never was officially champion. He challenged for it but never actually won it. |
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Post by Bob Sapp on Jan 22, 2010 13:39:58 GMT -5
Haha. That garbage last night with Angle and Hogan was pathetic.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jan 22, 2010 16:36:10 GMT -5
"I forget what year it was but something was mentioned about Jerry Jarret visiting Vince McMahon in Stamford. Nothing much else i belive was said about it." Yeah....that made me believe that TNA was sabotaging WWE. |
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Post by 3Lephant (Naptown Icon) on Jan 22, 2010 18:33:57 GMT -5
Where is that beating a dead horse .gif that someone always posts? it seems appropriate right now..
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Post by JXT on Jan 23, 2010 4:27:26 GMT -5
Before I state my personal opinion about the current state of Total Non-Stop Action Wrestling, I want everyone to know that I am not mindlessly bashing TNA. I do not "hate TNA for the sake of hating TNA". You may disagree with my opinions and that's fine...but please, do not bash my opinions or label me as a "TNA hater". Now with that said... I have always felt that TNA had potential. They certainly have/had a solid group of wrestlers that I felt could one day lead TNA to greatness - AJ Styles, Christopher Daniels, Samoa Joe, Homicide, Motor City Machine Guns - just to name a few. The biggest problem with TNA, in my opinion, is how they decide to showcase their talent. Some of them have been involved in head scratching story lines, some haven't been pushed to their highest potential... On top of that, TNA has added some questionable members to their roster throughout the years. I just want to say that I have NO ISSUE with TNA adding former WWE/WCW/ECW talent to their roster...so long as they are quality wrestlers/managers that can still offer something to their roster, perhaps even make one of their "home grown" wrestlers into bigger stars. When I tuned into iMPACT on January 4, I saw the likes of The Nasty Boys, Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, Sean Waltman, Mick Foley, and of course Eric Bishoff and Hulk Hogan dominate the show. Basically, after that show was over with, I felt as if I saw an old episode of WCW. There was Eric Bishoff, playing his usual authority role, with Hogan/Hall/Nash/Waltman at his side. All of them were wearing black...let's face it, it was the nWo in TNA. That personally aggravated me because I have seen the nWo more times than I can count in the past decade, both in WCW and WWE. If TNA is truly an alternative to the WWE, then why am I seeing Hogan/Hall/Nash/Bishoff/Waltman prance around like they own the wrestling world? I was cool back in 1997 but it's surely been played out. Then I see The Nasty Boys on my television screen. The NASTY BOYS! Why would anyone thing that the Nasty Boys were relevant enough to bring into this company? Granted, I understand they are Hogan's friends, but still...the Nasty Boys haven't mattered for over a decade or two (closer to two). Then on top of that, we see the TNA debut of Sean Morely in his Val Venis gimmick. Now seeing Val didn't get me as upset as seeing the Nasty Boys, but still. Val Venis doesn't scream "impact". He more or less screams "irrelevant". That's my biggest issue with TNA. They seem to just love bringing in talent that's completely irrelevant and, to be quite frank, boring. Instead of really focusing on pushing their own talent the right way, we have to see Hulk Hogan or The Nasty Boys. The fact that the Nasty Boys are even taking up television time is quite frankly aggravating. Mate you just summed up tna, i want to see joe, angle, aj, daniels i want to see the wrestlers fighting for the championships and feuding on fellow wrestlers, not the old wrestlers fight over who has more shares or ho runs the show, to be quite honest i dont giv a rats ass who runs the show, as long as its new refreshing and entertains me, and they did but im not sure if there heading in the right direction now  |
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Post by AdamBomb on Jan 23, 2010 4:40:02 GMT -5
I agree that it get annoying when i see WWE related storylines/ect in TNA. But, Wrestling has been around for so long, how much more original stuff can you come up with? Lethal Lockdown is great. I haven't seen feast or fired in any oher company's. TNA is doing the right thing. In order to get bigger, you need to bring in the faces that fans will recognize. Its common sence that WWE is equivalent to the world WRESTLING. So when a guy leaves WWE, it ssmart that TNA scoops him up, cause if a kid sees his face somewhere else, he will most likely follow. Hogan drew new fans, as well as Christian, Angle, Booker, Nash, etc.... Who cares if they are "WWE REJECTS". Which is a rediculess name. We don't call Wolfe a ROH reject. Same as most the TNA roster. We don't call Rey Mysterio a WCW reject. So wtf does it matter? RANT OVER- Uhhhh, I'm no big scholar, but 'rejects' would imply they were rejected, i.e. fired from said companies. Rey stayed with WCW until WWE bought them, I don't think that Desmond/Nigel was let go from ROH either. |
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