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Post by Oskanowski on Feb 18, 2010 13:08:21 GMT -5
Since these are the main stories, I just put them all together. MoD reveals UFO Sighting Files:uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20100218/tuk-mod-files-reveal-ufo-sightings-6323e80.htmlufos.nationalarchives.gov.uk/More than 6,000 pages of material spanning 1994 to 2000 holds hundreds of other-worldly experiences with unidentified flying objects (UFOs) and apparent aliens across Britain.
Aircraft of all shapes and sizes have been witnessed flying over a wide range of locations - including Chelsea Football Club and the former Home Secretary Michael Howard's home in Kent.If only America would open up ours. IAEA fears Iran working now on nuclear warhead: The U.N. nuclear watchdog fears Iran may be working now to develop a nuclear-armed missile, the agency said on Thursday, throwing independent weight behind Western suspicions of an active Iranian weapons program.www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE61H4EH20100218 Austin Plane Crash: Joseph Andrew Stack Left Sick Suicide Note for IRS to Take "Pound of Flesh":Joseph Andrew Stack, the man the FBI believes crashed a small plane into an Austin office complex out of anger at the IRS, may have left a disturbing online manifesto in which he ranted against the IRS, the Catholic Church, tax loopholes, bailouts and his own sorry state of affairs. www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/02/18/crimesider/entry6220442.shtml
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Feb 18, 2010 13:18:44 GMT -5
Do I need to point out again that just because you can't identify something in the sky does not mean it's little green men? Apparently so.
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Post by Oskanowski on Feb 18, 2010 13:21:05 GMT -5
Do I need to point out again that just because you can't identify something in the sky does not mean it's little green men? Apparently so. Lulz. Give me a break. Over 6000 sightings? Give it up, they are real.
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Post by sean™ on Feb 18, 2010 13:26:09 GMT -5
I'm still missing the part where "unidentified flying object" directly means aliens. If it's not identified, how can you classify it as something?
There will always be a million different ways to explain these things. But until I see a specific picture of a flying saucer, not some flash of light or far off in the distance object, and it's specifcally able to be seen and labled as something other then a logical explanation that we already have.......I'm not buying it.
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Post by Oskanowski on Feb 18, 2010 13:33:56 GMT -5
lol. Believe what you want. You have over 6000 documents in front of you're faces though... The US hasn't opened up one file. Yet other countries are ready to get this information out? If it's just nothing, just " UFO's " How come most people, like myself know that the UFO's are slowly turning into IFO's. Why is our country ( USA ) not opening up? I mean, we do have the most protected base on this planet ( Area 51 ).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2010 13:39:28 GMT -5
Well, of course..some if not most of those cases can be thrown out as nothing important. Actually, I tend to believe most UFO sightings are government test planes...BUT. That does not rule out the possibility that aliens exist. Countries like Britain, Mexico, and Brazil and are all opening up their documents and are saying that yes there is some sort of phenomenon going on that they dont seem to be able to explain.
Also, there are reports of numerous UFO's from the 1950's that air force pilots and military personnel have said have happened. Such as the case in 1955 I believe that a craft was tracked from Canada to Texas traveling 2000 MPH, and was reportedly to have crashed into a hillside and the pilot and also other people have claimed that the object was a round metallic disk. There has throughout known history been VERY strange things written by our ancestors. Anything from UFO's depicted on coins from hundreds of years ago, to strange drawings back in Bible times, to perfectly aerodynamic models that date back 1500 years found in South American caves..
Does all this prove Aliens exist...No...Does it warrant an investigation..Absolutely.
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Post by sean™ on Feb 18, 2010 13:40:44 GMT -5
Probably because our country (USA) does a lot of ariel testing that it does not want it's people to know about.
I don't care about the USA files. Hell, I don't even really care about these files. There's probably just as many pictures and files about Big Foot, yet no one really "knows" if he exists of not.
Show me a crashed Spaceship. Show me an upclose picture of actual alien life. Don't show me someone else's words on paper because that doesn't mean anything to me. I was to see actual proof.
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Post by Oskanowski on Feb 18, 2010 13:44:48 GMT -5
Probably because our country (USA) does a lot of ariel testing that it does not want it's people to know about. I don't care about the USA files. Hell, I don't even really care about these files. There's probably just as many pictures and files about Big Foot, yet no one really "knows" if he exists of not. Show me a crashed Spaceship. Show me an upclose picture of actual alien life. Don't show me someone else's words on paper because that doesn't mean anything to me. I was to see actual proof. Uhh.. How about the most known crash? The Roswell Incident? Also.. if you actually read the documents. You'd answer you're own questions. LOL. Geez, you act like this is the last list of UFO files we'll get? No we have plenty more to come, Including Videos and photos.
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Post by c14rock on Feb 18, 2010 14:03:23 GMT -5
They're all weather balloons. ;D
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Post by AdamBomb on Feb 18, 2010 14:05:07 GMT -5
Probably because our country (USA) does a lot of ariel testing that it does not want it's people to know about. I don't care about the USA files. Hell, I don't even really care about these files. There's probably just as many pictures and files about Big Foot, yet no one really "knows" if he exists of not. Show me a crashed Spaceship. Show me an upclose picture of actual alien life. Don't show me someone else's words on paper because that doesn't mean anything to me. I was to see actual proof. Uhh.. How about the most known crash? The Roswell Incident? Also.. if you actually read the documents. You'd answer you're own questions. LOL. Geez, you act like this is the last list of UFO files we'll get? No we have plenty more to come, Including Videos and photos. I live 90 miles (roughly) from Roswell, have read more on it than I'd assume most people have because it is such a BIG part of the history here, and while it is interesting as hell... I don't buy it. Sorry.
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Post by Oskanowski on Feb 18, 2010 14:06:10 GMT -5
Uhh.. How about the most known crash? The Roswell Incident? Also.. if you actually read the documents. You'd answer you're own questions. LOL. Geez, you act like this is the last list of UFO files we'll get? No we have plenty more to come, Including Videos and photos. I live 90 miles (roughly) from Roswell, have read more on it than I'd assume most people have because it is such a BIG part of the history here, and while it is interesting as hell... I don't buy it. Sorry. What part do you not buy? & why?
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Post by *Ricky Spanish* on Feb 18, 2010 14:13:58 GMT -5
lol. Believe what you want. You have over 6000 documents in front of you're faces though... The US hasn't opened up one file. Yet other countries are ready to get this information out? If it's just nothing, just " UFO's " How come most people, like myself know that the UFO's are slowly turning into IFO's. Why is our country ( USA ) not opening up? I mean, we do have the most protected base on this planet ( Area 51 ). Damn Str8
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Post by T R W on Feb 18, 2010 14:18:17 GMT -5
Do I believe that there are probably aliens that exist? Sure
Do I think the government hides things from us? Sure
That being said, until I see something that is clear proof that they exist, all it is is my opinion. I don't want to see grainy video where you can't see anything, I don't want to see a spec on a picture. I was real video of something that is completelyand obviously an alien craft, or an actual alien before I can say that there are actually aliens that do exist.
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Post by AdamBomb on Feb 18, 2010 14:23:32 GMT -5
I live 90 miles (roughly) from Roswell, have read more on it than I'd assume most people have because it is such a BIG part of the history here, and while it is interesting as hell... I don't buy it. Sorry. What part do you not buy? & why? I just don't, after a while of seeing all the parades, and the museum, and how much a part of Roswell's culture it is... it just comes off to me like more of a joke than being legitimate.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Feb 18, 2010 18:45:36 GMT -5
I'm still missing the part where "unidentified flying object" directly means aliens. If it's not identified, how can you classify it as something? This is my point exactly. It's one thing to say you can't identify something flying through the air. I buy that. I get that people see things they can't explain. I don't get why people make the huge leap from "I can't explain what I saw" to "It must be aliens." There's a big gap there.
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Post by Oskanowski on Feb 18, 2010 19:14:37 GMT -5
I'm still missing the part where "unidentified flying object" directly means aliens. If it's not identified, how can you classify it as something? This is my point exactly. It's one thing to say you can't identify something flying through the air. I buy that. I get that people see things they can't explain. I don't get why people make the huge leap from "I can't explain what I saw" to "It must be aliens." There's a big gap there. Probably because most sightings don't just get reported and left alone. They contact local Airports/police departments/news stations to see if they were flying anything in that location. If they weren't then they later get reported to Military, if they weren't flying anything then it's later sent to the government for higher technology testing such as Area 51 that have planes that are retired or being built. Then from there is when it becomes a UFO. Weather Balloons can be the case, but Weather balloons are a poor excuse for the non believers. Such as TR-3B's..etc.. Some just can't be covered up. From Area 51 or other high military bases, they most of the time don't give an answer. I think that the only ships that we have that are outside our planet are Flying Saucers & TR-3B's. The rest are probably our high tech military ships/planes. I mean think about it, we never get to see what they are building. One of the last planes we got to see was the SR-71. We've came a long way since then, we have a space station in space. So.. I'd really like to see how far we've came in secret planes since then.
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Post by Mole on Feb 18, 2010 19:20:35 GMT -5
This is my point exactly. It's one thing to say you can't identify something flying through the air. I buy that. I get that people see things they can't explain. I don't get why people make the huge leap from "I can't explain what I saw" to "It must be aliens." There's a big gap there. Probably because most sightings don't just get reported and left alone. They contact local Airports/police departments/news stations to see if they were flying anything in that location. If they weren't then they later get reported to Military, if they weren't flying anything then it's later sent to the government for higher technology testing such as Area 51 that have planes that are retired or being built. Then from there is when it becomes a UFO. No. It's a UFO the second it's a flying object that cannot be identified. Do you not even know what UFO stands for, or have you become so indoctrinated with the alien conspiracy theories that it's just another word for flying saucer?
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Post by Oskanowski on Feb 18, 2010 19:32:29 GMT -5
Probably because most sightings don't just get reported and left alone. They contact local Airports/police departments/news stations to see if they were flying anything in that location. If they weren't then they later get reported to Military, if they weren't flying anything then it's later sent to the government for higher technology testing such as Area 51 that have planes that are retired or being built. Then from there is when it becomes a UFO. No. It's a UFO the second it's a flying object that cannot be identified. Do you not even know what UFO stands for, or have you become so indoctrinated with the alien conspiracy theories that it's just another word for flying saucer? I'm saying they don't put it down in the files until they go through this process. So no, I was right. At the very end is when it's confirmed as either a IFO or UFO. If they go through everything, and find out it's a plane or something then they file it as IFO, and list what it was, and where..the time..etc. If they go all the way down to the high military bases, and they don't report back with an answer, than it's listed as a UFO on the files and they explain what happened.
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Post by Sam Hain on Feb 18, 2010 20:43:37 GMT -5
I used to work with a guy that was obsessed with UFO's. He's written books, hosted radio shows, and hosts seminars on the topic. He's taken his obsession to the point of believing that he has been taken, by aliens, and experimented on. He claims that they took him because they knew that he knew they were real.
This guy, is a very lonely man. His obsession with UFO's and aliens has isolated him from the real world, and he doesn't even know that this has happened. I'm just saying.....might want to step back for a bit.
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Post by Oskanowski on Feb 18, 2010 20:52:46 GMT -5
I used to work with a guy that was obsessed with UFO's. He's written books, hosted radio shows, and hosts seminars on the topic. He's taken his obsession to the point of believing that he has been taken, by aliens, and experimented on. He claims that they took him because they knew that he knew they were real. This guy, is a very lonely man. His obsession with UFO's and aliens has isolated him from the real world, and he doesn't even know that this has happened. I'm just saying.....might want to step back for a bit. I think there is a difference between stupid and being a Ufologist.
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