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Post by hitman1072 on Mar 7, 2010 18:34:16 GMT -5
This has to be one of the worst cases I have ever heard about. Here is a link to a blog site with a condensed version of it. There is also a link there to the actual criminal complaint. Just a warning on the complaint...it is truly awful. badgerblogger.com/?p=15814#commentsIf this isn't a clear reason for the death penalty, I don't know what is. Unfortunately, these animals will be able to live off of the system in prison for the rest of their lives. There is no death penalty in WI. If posting this violates any rules, I am sorry. Just lock it up.
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Post by hitman1072 on Mar 7, 2010 23:08:01 GMT -5
Is there anyone from WI, or anywhere else that has heard anything about this case?
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Post by slappy on Mar 7, 2010 23:09:54 GMT -5
Yeah I've heard of it.
I still see zero reason for the death penalty.
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Post by Byron F'N Saxton Fan on Mar 7, 2010 23:14:27 GMT -5
I get the Death Penalty, but it seems like being in prison for such a long time would be just as bad if not worse given what probably will happen to them in there.
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Post by hitman1072 on Mar 7, 2010 23:14:30 GMT -5
Yeah I've heard of it. I still see zero reason for the death penalty. Did you read the entire criminal complaint?
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Post by slappy on Mar 7, 2010 23:15:14 GMT -5
Yeah I've heard of it. I still see zero reason for the death penalty. Did you read the entire criminal complaint? I don't care if they killed the entire city of Milwaukee, I wouldn't be for the death penalty.
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Post by hitman1072 on Mar 7, 2010 23:22:53 GMT -5
Did you read the entire criminal complaint? I don't care if they killed the entire city of Milwaukee, I wouldn't be for the death penalty. Creatures who commit these acts are no longer human beings. They do not deserve to be treated as people. Killing a 3 and a 4 year old, and then butchering a handicapped girl means you can no longer be trusted on Earth.
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Post by slappy on Mar 7, 2010 23:27:51 GMT -5
I don't care if they killed the entire city of Milwaukee, I wouldn't be for the death penalty. Creatures who commit these acts are no longer human beings. They do not deserve to be treated as people. Killing a 3 and a 4 year old, and then butchering a handicapped girl means you can no longer be trusted on Earth. They won't be trusted on Earth, they will be locked away from society forever, where they belong.
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Post by hitman1072 on Mar 7, 2010 23:37:51 GMT -5
Creatures who commit these acts are no longer human beings. They do not deserve to be treated as people. Killing a 3 and a 4 year old, and then butchering a handicapped girl means you can no longer be trusted on Earth. They won't be trusted on Earth, they will be locked away from society forever, where they belong. That is just too good for these animals. We, as a society, have a moral obligation to make sure there is no possible way no one else can ever be harmed by these individuals again. There is only one way to do that.
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Post by Stevo on Mar 7, 2010 23:45:56 GMT -5
They won't be trusted on Earth, they will be locked away from society forever, where they belong. That is just too good for these animals. We, as a society, have a moral obligation to make sure there is no possible way no one else can ever be harmed by these individuals again. There is only one way to do that. There's no moral obligation in anything. Let's just establish that. And although I see where you're coming from, killing has never solved anything. Never will. I've always thought the death penalty was a cop-out for justice. As sick as this whole ing thing is, the women should've deserved to rot away in prison. She'd likely be tormented by the other prisoners for killing a child, anyways. 15 minutes of pain/waiting and a respectful "Any last words?" is far to good for murderers. Now, if we were on the subject of making an example out of people, and if the good ol' "hung, drawn, and quartered" was still accepted, I might be singing a different song . . . God, I'm a sick . WHEEE!
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Post by slappy on Mar 7, 2010 23:49:31 GMT -5
They won't be trusted on Earth, they will be locked away from society forever, where they belong. That is just too good for these animals. We, as a society, have a moral obligation to make sure there is no possible way no one else can ever be harmed by these individuals again. There is only one way to do that. And no one will be harmed by them again if the guards and prison do their job.
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Post by hitman1072 on Mar 7, 2010 23:54:29 GMT -5
That is just too good for these animals. We, as a society, have a moral obligation to make sure there is no possible way no one else can ever be harmed by these individuals again. There is only one way to do that. There's no moral obligation in anything. Let's just establish that. And although I see where you're coming from, killing has never solved anything. Never will. I've always thought the death penalty was a cop-out for justice. As sick as this whole ing thing is, the women should've deserved to rot away in prison. She'd likely be tormented by the other prisoners for killing a child, anyways. 15 minutes of pain/waiting and a respectful "Any last words?" is far to good for murderers. Now, if we were on the subject of making an example out of people, and if the good ol' "hung, drawn, and quartered" was still accepted, I might be singing a different song . . . God, I'm a sick . WHEEE! I completely disagree. I believe we do have a moral obligation to rid society of these monsters. Let's just re-establish that. You're completely wrong about the killing has never solved anything. War is only won through killing, not negotiating. That never works in the long run. The DP isn't the justice, the trial is. The DP is just the punishment.
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Post by slappy on Mar 7, 2010 23:55:17 GMT -5
And the punishment doesn't deter crap like it's supposed to. It's just a revenge tactic.
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Post by hitman1072 on Mar 7, 2010 23:56:35 GMT -5
There's no moral obligation in anything. Let's just establish that. And although I see where you're coming from, killing has never solved anything. Never will. I've always thought the death penalty was a cop-out for justice. As sick as this whole ing thing is, the women should've deserved to rot away in prison. She'd likely be tormented by the other prisoners for killing a child, anyways. 15 minutes of pain/waiting and a respectful "Any last words?" is far to good for murderers. Now, if we were on the subject of making an example out of people, and if the good ol' "hung, drawn, and quartered" was still accepted, I might be singing a different song . . . God, I'm a sick . WHEEE! I completely disagree. I believe we do have a moral obligation to rid society of these monsters. Let's just re-establish that. You're completely wrong about the killing has never solved anything. War is only won through killing, not negotiating. That never works in the long run. The DP isn't the justice, the trial is. The DP is just the punishment. That is just too good for these animals. We, as a society, have a moral obligation to make sure there is no possible way no one else can ever be harmed by these individuals again. There is only one way to do that. And no one will be harmed by them again if the guards and prison do their job. That is a big if. No reason to gamble like that if they are just eradicated. And the punishment doesn't deter poop like it's supposed to. It's just a revenge tactic. I never cared it it deterred. I am fine with them just dead. But, I believe if we executed all 3,000 or so on death row in a few month's time...it would be a deterrent. We just need to use it the right way.
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Post by slappy on Mar 7, 2010 23:58:19 GMT -5
I completely disagree. I believe we do have a moral obligation to rid society of these monsters. Let's just re-establish that. You're completely wrong about the killing has never solved anything. War is only won through killing, not negotiating. That never works in the long run. The DP isn't the justice, the trial is. The DP is just the punishment. And no one will be harmed by them again if the guards and prison do their job. So why don't you trust the guards and the prisons to do their jobs. What about the innocent people that are freed after 20 or more years in prison? We could have killed those people and hell, we have killed innocent people before.
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Post by hitman1072 on Mar 8, 2010 0:03:17 GMT -5
And no one will be harmed by them again if the guards and prison do their job. So why don't you trust the guards and the prisons to do their jobs. What about the innocent people that are freed after 20 or more years in prison? We could have killed those people and hell, we have killed innocent people before. Give me cases in the modern era where we have killed innocent people in the U.S.
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Post by Stevo on Mar 8, 2010 0:05:43 GMT -5
There's no moral obligation in anything. Let's just establish that. And although I see where you're coming from, killing has never solved anything. Never will. I've always thought the death penalty was a cop-out for justice. As sick as this whole ing thing is, the women should've deserved to rot away in prison. She'd likely be tormented by the other prisoners for killing a child, anyways. 15 minutes of pain/waiting and a respectful "Any last words?" is far to good for murderers. Now, if we were on the subject of making an example out of people, and if the good ol' "hung, drawn, and quartered" was still accepted, I might be singing a different song . . . God, I'm a sick . WHEEE! I completely disagree. I believe we do have a moral obligation to rid society of these monsters. Let's just re-establish that. You're completely wrong about the killing has never solved anything. War is only won through killing, not negotiating. That never works in the long run. The DP isn't the justice, the trial is. The DP is just the punishment. With few exceptions, war has never solved anything. Sorry, I don't see a point in mass killing to re-establish "borders." I don't see why we don't look out for those in other countries. We are all one people, one human race anyways. Everybody is trying to get through life best way they know how. Being born in America doesn't change that. Its not something that a flag and a map changes. Jus soli and jus sanguis (right of blood and right of land, both the easiest ways to be a nationalized citizen), eh? Lucky sperm club. No, I don't say the Pledge of Allegiance. I like the ideals, but I'll freely think on my own how they should be enacted and justified. I'd like to think the Founding Fathers would agree. Same thing here, we'd be no better off or worse off if the woman was locked up or killed. She's killed now, do you feel happy? Its just a sad close to an already depressing case. There was nothing fair about anyone's death (ESPECIALLY THOSE ING TODDLERS, damn) here. And to buck up and be a mob-mentality society who delivers justice as needed is not the way to be. It should be fair and civil. Death is neither. It wasn't for the family of three, and it isn't in the injection.
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Post by Stevo on Mar 8, 2010 0:07:51 GMT -5
So why don't you trust the guards and the prisons to do their jobs. What about the innocent people that are freed after 20 or more years in prison? We could have killed those people and hell, we have killed innocent people before. Give me cases in the modern era where we have killed innocent people in the U.S. www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/09/07/090907fa_fact_grannOr just type the name Cameron Todd Willingham into google. And hell, one of the West Memphis 3 boys is up for execution, too. "YOU CAN'T FIND JUSTICE, IT'LL FIND YOU" - The Dicks lolz
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Post by hitman1072 on Mar 8, 2010 0:47:20 GMT -5
Give me cases in the modern era where we have killed innocent people in the U.S. www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/09/07/090907fa_fact_grannOr just type the name Cameron Todd Willingham into google. And hell, one of the West Memphis 3 boys is up for execution, too. "YOU CAN'T FIND JUSTICE, IT'LL FIND YOU" - The Dicks lolz I don't see any conclusive evidence. I honestly don't care either. No systme is perfect. You believe what you believe. I just think you're misguided. And yes...I am very happy Brittney Robertson is dead. Ecstatic even!
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Post by hitman1072 on Mar 8, 2010 1:44:43 GMT -5
Honestly...I really haven't thought much about vengeance or justice in this case. When I first heard about this case, I figured it was bad, but nothing unusual in this part of Milwaukee. Well, when I started to learn about the victims, and then when I read the criminal complaint...that changed. I was heartbroken. I don't know any other way to put it. This case has really bothered me for the last week.
For those who just read the criminal complaint, Rachel Thompson's (one of the victims) background is even more tragic. In 1993, at the age of 6...she witnessed the murders of both her mother, and grandmother by her mother's bf. Then just 10 days ago, she and 2 of her children were homicide victims.
I honestly can't stop thinking about this. Sorry to ramble on.
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