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Post by Byron F'N Saxton Fan on Mar 8, 2010 1:53:22 GMT -5
I don't see any conclusive evidence. I honestly don't care either. No systme is perfect. You believe what you believe. I just think you're misguided. And yes...I am very happy Brittney Robertson is dead. Ecstatic even! You ask for cases of what you talked about, yet when you get it you "don't care"?
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Post by hitman1072 on Mar 8, 2010 2:07:18 GMT -5
I don't see any conclusive evidence. I honestly don't care either. No system is perfect. You believe what you believe. I just think you're misguided. And yes...I am very happy Brittney Robertson is dead. Ecstatic even! You ask for cases of what you talked about, yet when you get it you "don't care"? He gave me one case where the proof isn't conclusive. I don't care, because debating the death penalty wasn't the reason for me posting this.
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Post by Byron F'N Saxton Fan on Mar 8, 2010 2:15:20 GMT -5
You ask for cases of what you talked about, yet when you get it you "don't care"? He gave me one case where the proof isn't conclusive. I don't care, because debating the death penalty wasn't the reason for me posting this. I would accept that if you hadn't said that no system is perfect, implying if there was a case with conclusive evidence you would brush it off with the "No system is perfect" excuse. Even if it wasn't, why would you put an opinion about the Death Penalty in the post? You should know that might, and in this case it did spark debate over the penalty its self.
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Post by hitman1072 on Mar 8, 2010 2:30:08 GMT -5
He gave me one case where the proof isn't conclusive. I don't care, because debating the death penalty wasn't the reason for me posting this. I would accept that if you hadn't said that no system is perfect, implying if there was a case with conclusive evidence you would brush it off with the "No system is perfect" excuse. Even if it wasn't, why would you put an opinion about the Death Penalty in the post? You should know that might, and in this case it did spark debate over the penalty its self. I couldn't care less what you would accept. No system is perfect. If there were 1 or 2 'innocent' people executed compared to the thousands of terrible people put to death, I wouldn't lose a lot of sleep over it. The bottom line though is, that simply hasn't happened. There isn't much debate. The main objections come from Slappy, and if you'd read his other posts, they are just ridiculous and uninformed. Whatever though...we're a country of the majority, and I am quite confident the overwhelming majority would be on my side, in terms of putting to death 2 animals who tortured, and butchered a 3 & 4 year old along with their handicapped mom.
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Post by King Silva on Mar 8, 2010 3:13:07 GMT -5
I agree about that. Child killers deserve to die and it is kinda messed up how it take ing 30 years to happen if it happens at all. . I think this case is a prime case of perfect canidates for death. Too bad only the stupid murdering bitch died. Hope she is enjoying her stay in hell. Have fun talking to people like Hitler and Bundy.
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Post by hitman1072 on Mar 8, 2010 4:07:06 GMT -5
I agree about that. Child killers deserve to die and it is kinda messed up how it take ing 30 years to happen if it happens at all. . I think this case is a prime case of perfect candidates for death. Too bad only the stupid murdering bitch died. Hope she is enjoying her stay in hell. Have fun talking to people like Hitler and Bundy. It isn't only that they killed them, the 3 of them did it in such a brutal way. When Desmond Laster (one of the killers) walked into the house, the 4 year old saw him and said "Hi Des." Then "Des" walks over to the little guy's mom (Rachel), and wakes her up by punching her in the face. To strike that much terror into a mother, and 2 of the 3 children in the home...it's beyond awful. I live about a half hour from where all this happened, but I went to a day care when I was little, like a mile and a half or so away, and there is a Wal-Mart about 2 miles away that I always go to hunting for figures. I haven't been there since I read the criminal complaint that came out on Thursday. I think I am going to drive by the house where it happened and drop off a teddy bear. People have been putting things like that as a memorial outside the house.
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Post by BCizzle on Mar 10, 2010 23:15:03 GMT -5
I agree there is a line that can be crossed when you are no longer human and deserve to die. And these animals crossed it. They're never going to get better and benefit society in any way after what they've done.
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Post by hitman1072 on Mar 11, 2010 2:17:17 GMT -5
I agree there is a line that can be crossed when you are no longer human and deserve to die. And these animals crossed it. They're never going to get better and benefit society in any way after what they've done. Got that right. I actually went by the house yesterday, and put a small teddy bear with the other stuffed animals, and things people have left. The 2 animals are due back in court on Friday morning.
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Post by Shock- I'm Your Huckleberry on Mar 11, 2010 6:17:42 GMT -5
The whole problem of the death penalty is it ends up being predicated on the "eye for an eye" system. Ultimately, the (assumed) agreement will be made that if you kill 1 person, your life should be taken. But then that eliminates are fair and equal trial. You cant have a verdict set before a trial.
Whether or not these people deserve to be put to death isn't the issue. The death penalty itself is inherently against the United States constitution (granting us all an equal jury of our peers).
Of course you could say it depends on the murder. But how do you clarify one murder as more worthy than the other? You cant, really. If perhaps you said people that murdered someone by shooting them in the head for instant death was less punishable because its arguably less gruesome. But even saying that, you predicate the verdict before the trial.
There is not, in any way shape or form that the death penalty works on a fair case-by-case basis.
And for my final though, that was really insulting to call Slappy uninformed. You oughta check into the treatment of child killing or murdering prisoners. I will promise you they will serve a much worse fate in a prison then under the death penalty.
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Post by wrestlingsaten on Mar 11, 2010 16:43:17 GMT -5
i live in milwaukee and this case still pisses me off because these guys will rot in prison but they should get the death penalty
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Post by King Silva on Mar 11, 2010 17:00:14 GMT -5
The whole problem of the death penalty is it ends up being predicated on the "eye for an eye" system. Ultimately, the (assumed) agreement will be made that if you kill 1 person, your life should be taken. But then that eliminates are fair and equal trial. You cant have a verdict set before a trial. Whether or not these people deserve to be put to death isn't the issue. The death penalty itself is inherently against the United States constitution (granting us all an equal jury of our peers). Of course you could say it depends on the murder. But how do you clarify one murder as more worthy than the other? You cant, really. If perhaps you said people that murdered someone by shooting them in the head for instant death was less punishable because its arguably less gruesome. But even saying that, you predicate the verdict before the trial. There is not, in any way shape or form that the death penalty works on a fair case-by-case basis. And for my final though, that was really insulting to call Slappy uninformed. You oughta check into the treatment of child killing or murdering prisoners. I will promise you they will serve a much worse fate in a prison then under the death penalty. What are you talking about verdict before the trial? A jury still has to find the people guilty before they decide a punishment. Just because the prosecuter says they are seeking the death penalty it does not mean that the person is already guilty, the jury still has to make that decision. A judge is the one to hand down the sentence and most of the times they are good deciders of what crimes deserves what punishments.
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Post by hitman1072 on Mar 12, 2010 4:59:17 GMT -5
The whole problem of the death penalty is it ends up being predicated on the "eye for an eye" system. Ultimately, the (assumed) agreement will be made that if you kill 1 person, your life should be taken. But then that eliminates are fair and equal trial. You cant have a verdict set before a trial. Whether or not these people deserve to be put to death isn't the issue. The death penalty itself is inherently against the United States constitution (granting us all an equal jury of our peers). Of course you could say it depends on the murder. But how do you clarify one murder as more worthy than the other? You cant, really. If perhaps you said people that murdered someone by shooting them in the head for instant death was less punishable because its arguably less gruesome. But even saying that, you predicate the verdict before the trial. There is not, in any way shape or form that the death penalty works on a fair case-by-case basis. And for my final though, that was really insulting to call Slappy uninformed. You oughta check into the treatment of child killing or murdering prisoners. I will promise you they will serve a much worse fate in a prison then under the death penalty. I honestly have no idea what you are saying. I don't think you do either. Slappy is uninformed. As for the actual case...it has been 2 weeks, and I am still shocked by what happened. By all accounts Rachel was a good person, raising 3 kids basically on her own. It makes me sick what was done to her, and 2 of her little guys. The 2 animals who helped Brittney Robertson will be back in court for a preliminary hearing in about 4 and a half hours. They truly deserve what Hell has waiting for them.
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