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Post by humanitarianaryan on Mar 8, 2010 17:48:17 GMT -5
AT LEAST all the stuff i sell is legit!!! Just saw this on ebay, its live so i wont post the auction.... ladies and gentleman....cue the infestation of protos and testshots cus here we go..... looks like the guys at Hasbro like Brian used to play with their test shots in an all out battle royal (paint wear on boots)
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Post by tibbo on Mar 8, 2010 18:44:14 GMT -5
AT LEAST all the stuff i sell is legit!!! You're selling figures that have been faded by the sun/atmospheric exposure as 'variants' hehe This figure is craptacular also however....
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Post by humanitarianaryan on Mar 8, 2010 18:52:15 GMT -5
oh boy... I think the rudes have been legitimized by the vast majority of the members on these boards. Even proven to exist MOC in 4 different colors. Sorry bud. Thank you, come again.
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Post by The Madness on Mar 8, 2010 19:00:24 GMT -5
I'm on the fence about the Rudes, but they certainly do make for a nice looking display. That HBK, though, is most likely fake.
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Post by tibbo on Mar 8, 2010 19:09:34 GMT -5
Sorry bud. Thank you, come again. No need to apologise to me you're welcome! I totally agree they do look pretty though. As you say 'WV' the Shawn figure is almost certainly fake, so please be careful if any of you guys are looking for a 'bargain'. I am sure this isn't it
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Post by The Madness on Mar 8, 2010 19:52:13 GMT -5
The only thing that makes me a little bit hesitant to call the Shawn a fake is that the plastic looks like it's a different shade than the the retail figure would be.
Although, with the way the plastic used on Hasbro figures is changing colors, it's hard to get too picky about exact shades.
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Post by lamby23 on Mar 8, 2010 20:32:25 GMT -5
The only thing that makes me a little bit hesitant to call the Shawn a fake is that the plastic looks like it's a different shade than the the retail figure would be. Although, with the way the plastic used on Hasbro figures is changing colors, it's hard to get too picky about exact shades. I had a Shawn Michaels #2 that the had only half his head turn color. I mean if half can turn color who knows what is possible with this plastic that was used. I'd show pics but I sold it years ago.
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Post by Hasbromaniac on Mar 8, 2010 22:33:22 GMT -5
Although the head appears a bit larger than normal, it looks legit. My Luger (now Dennis'), had half his head painted on an Ultimate Warrior body. I'd call it more of a Shawn mock up than a test shot though.
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Post by humanitarianaryan on Mar 8, 2010 22:39:20 GMT -5
I just don't want to make another post of me defending myself. My rudes are legit and do look beautiful on display. TOO MANY times i sit here defending myself. NO MORE. I'm the last guy thats gonna take a shawn head and strip it then put it on a martel body and sell it. I have SOLD TONS of rare and legit error/variants. I've sent out over 500+ Hasbro's since August. Half of you who never bought something from me probably hate me. My karma keeps dropping everyday. I dont care. I want to be the first guy wit -1000. The other half who have dealt with me know that im the REAL DEAL. 4 yellow dustys, 8 rude variants, Razor no mustache, TWO slaughter no names, Warrior 1 on an andre backer.
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Post by Hasbromaniac on Mar 8, 2010 22:42:40 GMT -5
On behalf of humanitarianaryan, the Rude variants are legit to a point. I'm not sure that there 3,4 or 5 different versions though. There are lighter and darker tights out there MOC and I do own a couple of them myself.
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Post by meatybat on Mar 9, 2010 0:01:06 GMT -5
The only thing that makes me a little bit hesitant to call the Shawn a fake is that the plastic looks like it's a different shade than the the retail figure would be. Although, with the way the plastic used on Hasbro figures is changing colors, it's hard to get too picky about exact shades. My only thing is when you strip the plastic of color sometimes the pigment from the paint you remove can give the flesh a different hue or the fact the plastic doesn't have the shine that it would generally have can also affect the color of the plastic .
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Post by ICHIBAN 一番 on Mar 9, 2010 2:30:13 GMT -5
its a sad day for real collectors, i have never seen a test shot played with like that.
i hope the dusty test thread hasnt given loads of fraudsters acetone ideas :-(
im only sticking to multi colours from now on!
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Post by ICHIBAN 一番 on Mar 9, 2010 2:32:10 GMT -5
I just don't want to make another post of me defending myself. My rudes are legit and do look beautiful on display. TOO MANY times i sit here defending myself. NO MORE. I'm the last guy thats gonna take a shawn head and strip it then put it on a martel body and sell it. I have SOLD TONS of rare and legit error/variants. I've sent out over 500+ Hasbro's since August. Half of you who never bought something from me probably hate me. My karma keeps dropping everyday. I dont care. I want to be the first guy wit -1000. The other half who have dealt with me know that im the REAL DEAL. 4 yellow dustys, 8 rude variants, Razor no mustache, TWO slaughter no names, Warrior 1 on an andre backer. its a worry because somone may se your legit varients of slaughter, razor and fake them, i dont know how we could tell he difference.
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Post by Guest on Mar 9, 2010 4:07:31 GMT -5
there are ALWAYS going to be fakers out there and unfortunately there are always going to be people getting stung by them - the only saving grace is that this is THE hasbro board on the net and i'd like to think any Hasbro collector out there who is looking into buying proto's and testshots (lets be honest, not every collector wants them first off, and secondly not every collector can afford them) would have seen this board or be friends with someone who is on this board where advice and help is so freely available. but like i said at the start, there will always be people who fake and there will always be people who get stung unfortunately
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Post by Ruby Fusion on Mar 9, 2010 5:50:38 GMT -5
Agreeing with Hasbromaniac here; it's a mock-up. Testshots usually exist of different colored plastic (chocolate brown, green, yellow etc.) not a painted body with a different head (thus a mock-up). Since I own a "yellow" boots Dusty I'm questioning the variant theory, since mine has only half yellowed boots... That's why I lean towards the oxidized theory (the same process that causes consoles to yellow). I also believe it doesn't only affect white, so that's why there are different shades for Rude. I'd only believe they were variants if someone could show me a picture from 1990 of the different shades (with proof that said picture is truly from 1990).
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Post by familyguy84 on Mar 9, 2010 7:08:12 GMT -5
It's quite a neat job to fit the head that sits well and still swivels. The process would mean prising the body apart and then sealing it back together, as the base of the head would not fit through the neck hole. Is there any signs of this happening?
I agree on the dusty front. Given the amount of yellow boots dustys on ebay it's very strange not one has turned up in packet.
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Post by NAЯDO on Mar 9, 2010 7:48:33 GMT -5
i don't think this is legit, by the looks of it, I'm very doubtful., however I'm not a hundred percent sure.
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Post by The Madness on Mar 9, 2010 8:59:44 GMT -5
I just don't want to make another post of me defending myself. My rudes are legit and do look beautiful on display. TOO MANY times i sit here defending myself. NO MORE. I'm the last guy thats gonna take a shawn head and strip it then put it on a martel body and sell it. I have SOLD TONS of rare and legit error/variants. I've sent out over 500+ Hasbro's since August. Half of you who never bought something from me probably hate me. My karma keeps dropping everyday. I dont care. I want to be the first guy wit -1000. The other half who have dealt with me know that im the REAL DEAL. 4 yellow dustys, 8 rude variants, Razor no mustache, TWO slaughter no names, Warrior 1 on an andre backer. I don't think anyone is accusing you of faking it, per se, we're just skeptical and leaning toward the idea that you could have gotten taken on it. Did it come from a reputable seller? You have to admit that it doesn't look like a standard action figure test shot, and if you're certain that it is, a figure like this could really be a game-changer - for better or for worse.
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Post by Ruby Fusion on Mar 9, 2010 10:22:58 GMT -5
i don't think this is legit, by the looks of it, I'm very doubtful., however I'm not a hundred percent sure. I'm not questioning that this is legit, it probably is. The terminology is wrong in case of this figure; it's not a testshot, but a mock-up (to show what action feature they'll use on Hasbro HBK) I collect neither, but I'd prefer mock-ups over testshots :-)
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Post by meatybat on Mar 9, 2010 10:45:11 GMT -5
I think mock up/test shot is a fine line with Hasbros . In my opinion the Warrior with Conan arms is a mock up and this would still be a test shot being all the multi-colored are still production plastic just not the appropriate colors and why make a test body when they have one done in production colors already.... OR is the head just considered a test shot technically ? I have a Macho with production Koko legs and multi upper body so I think they used whatever was easier . The part that sucks is most of the ones with the test heads are usually the same production bodies like Steiner, Flair , Tito this is where keeping track if we had seen a HBK before would come in handy .
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