Flair's REAL World title belt...

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Flair's REAL World title belt... Jul 2, 2010 18:01:04 GMT -5

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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Jul 2, 2010 18:01:04 GMT -5

Hey,

For those that recall, when Ric Flair made th jump to the WWF back in '92 he brought along the NWA/WCW World Heavyweight title belt which WWF video distorted because they didn't want to show it.

I know there were many times that the belt was shown, but then I do believe they got rid of the NWA/WCW World title and Flair still carried around another belt, still claiming to be the "Real" World Heavyweight champion.

In an old wrestling magazine I used to have, it showed a picture of Flair with what looked like a WWF Tag-Team belt, however on this belt where it said "Tag Team", it was replaced by 3 diamonds which were spaced out to take the gap where it said "Tag Team".

I was wondering if anyone had any clearer images of this belt or if anyone knows about the belt that I am talking about.

I don't believe he carried around this belt for long because he eventually won the WWF Heavyweight belt not long after.

Anyway, I was just hoping someone might have some clear pics of the belt in question.

riderkid Mid-Carder Joined on: Dec 22, 2007 22:39:26 GMT -5 Posts: 379	Flair's REAL World title belt... Jul 2, 2010 18:03:25 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by riderkid on Jul 2, 2010 18:03:25 GMT -5 the real world title from what i heard is a curved version of the classic world heavyweight title with a silver globe and instead of wreslters on the side plates its dual plated globes

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Flair's REAL World title belt... Jul 2, 2010 18:47:38 GMT -5

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Post by carly1988 on Jul 2, 2010 18:47:38 GMT -5

Ive seen a perfect picture somewhere old school but I cant remember it it was online or in a magazine. Ill look for it and post it if I can find it.

As for the actual title. The Original is/was owned by Ric Flair. The title he brought to the WWF and eventually returned to WCW was infact the original title (Releathered as the original was on a maroon strap). Version 2 came about around 94-95 and it known mostly as the title with the bend in the top of it. (How it got bent nobody knows to my knowledge) Version 3 Was created in 99-00 and it was the typical title you saw at the end of WCW to when Booker brought it to the WWF.

From what Ive read WCW officials "traded" the Version 2 (bent top) to Hogan to get the newer version back. Flair owned the Original until giving it as a gift to Triple H. Its still assumed that Hogan has Version 2. Of course the WWE owns the 3rd Version of the belt as well as the 4th design which has the WWE logo.

There was numerous rumors that there were multiple titles but from everything Ive read there has actually only been 3 which were releathered numerous times.

Sam Hain WF Legend Joined on: Nov 17, 2003 22:56:19 GMT -5 Posts: 8,760	Flair's REAL World title belt... Jul 2, 2010 23:23:18 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Sam Hain on Jul 2, 2010 23:23:18 GMT -5 From what Flair said, it was just a regular tag title belt that he borrowed nightly from whoever was the tag champs at the time, which is why it was distorted on tv.

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Flair's REAL World title belt... Jul 4, 2010 6:01:58 GMT -5

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Jul 2, 2010 23:23:18 GMT -5 Sam Hain said:

From what Flair said, it was just a regular tag title belt that he borrowed nightly from whoever was the tag champs at the time, which is why it was distorted on tv.

really? I never knew that!

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Flair's REAL World title belt... Jul 4, 2010 16:15:03 GMT -5

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Post by hbkrules on Jul 4, 2010 16:15:03 GMT -5

Jul 2, 2010 18:47:38 GMT -5 @carly1988 said:

Ive seen a perfect picture somewhere old school but I cant remember it it was online or in a magazine. Ill look for it and post it if I can find it.

As for the actual title. The Original is/was owned by Ric Flair. The title he brought to the WWF and eventually returned to WCW was infact the original title (Releathered as the original was on a maroon strap). Version 2 came about around 94-95 and it known mostly as the title with the bend in the top of it. (How it got bent nobody knows to my knowledge) Version 3 Was created in 99-00 and it was the typical title you saw at the end of WCW to when Booker brought it to the WWF.

From what Ive read WCW officials "traded" the Version 2 (bent top) to Hogan to get the newer version back. Flair owned the Original until giving it as a gift to Triple H. Its still assumed that Hogan has Version 2. Of course the WWE owns the 3rd Version of the belt as well as the 4th design which has the WWE logo.

There was numerous rumors that there were multiple titles but from everything Ive read there has actually only been 3 which were releathered numerous times.

This is wrong. The original big gold is currently in a cabinet in scott steiner's house. In the late 90's WCW took the original title and made 5 cast copies of it. All 6 belts were then used at various times on television. I'm not sure where all the cast copies ended up but WWE has one, DDP has one and Hogan has one or two. The belt that was brought to WWE was one of the cast copies, Steiner kept the original. Flair does own the original nwa domed globe belt.

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Flair's REAL World title belt... Jul 4, 2010 19:03:12 GMT -5

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Post by carly1988 on Jul 4, 2010 19:03:12 GMT -5

Jul 4, 2010 16:15:03 GMT -5 hbkrules said:

Jul 2, 2010 18:47:38 GMT -5 @carly1988 said:

Ive seen a perfect picture somewhere old school but I cant remember it it was online or in a magazine. Ill look for it and post it if I can find it.

As for the actual title. The Original is/was owned by Ric Flair. The title he brought to the WWF and eventually returned to WCW was infact the original title (Releathered as the original was on a maroon strap). Version 2 came about around 94-95 and it known mostly as the title with the bend in the top of it. (How it got bent nobody knows to my knowledge) Version 3 Was created in 99-00 and it was the typical title you saw at the end of WCW to when Booker brought it to the WWF.

From what Ive read WCW officials "traded" the Version 2 (bent top) to Hogan to get the newer version back. Flair owned the Original until giving it as a gift to Triple H. Its still assumed that Hogan has Version 2. Of course the WWE owns the 3rd Version of the belt as well as the 4th design which has the WWE logo.

There was numerous rumors that there were multiple titles but from everything Ive read there has actually only been 3 which were releathered numerous times.

This is wrong. The original big gold is currently in a cabinet in scott steiner's house. In the late 90's WCW took the original title and made 5 cast copies of it. All 6 belts were then used at various times on television. I'm not sure where all the cast copies ended up but WWE has one, DDP has one and Hogan has one or two. The belt that was brought to WWE was one of the cast copies, Steiner kept the original. Flair does own the original nwa domed globe belt.

Ive heard the rumors of Steiner holding the belt but Ive also seen video where Flair and HHH both have said that he (HHH) owns the original. (Ill try and look sometime for the videos). Also the only cast copies Ive ever heard that were used on TV were the one with the bent top and the one at the end of WCW. Much like the domed globe Rhodes and Race both owned (rhodes sold his) cast copies but were never ring used.

Speaking of the NWA domed title....Technically Flair doesnt own it anymore. Here is the issue with the NWA title...

As it turns out, Flair doesn't technically own the championship. According to a document acquired by PWInsider.com, the belt had been previously used as collateral as part of a financial issue between Flair and Matthews, North Carolina corporation Conbraco Industries, Inc. that pre-dated Flair's issues with Highspots.

On 8/26/08, Flair and Conbraco jointly filed a secured loan via a Universal Commercial Code (UCC) document. That filing created a lien against Flair's property, preventing him from selling it off without settling whatever debt he has to Conbraco.
While the financial background of what led to Flair's dealings with Conbraco isn't immediately clear, that documentation listed the following items as collateral that the corporation could conceivably seize from Flair's possession:

*Flair's NWA championship belt (specifically listed as original)
*Flair's WCW championship belt (specifically listed as replica)
*Flair's "wrestling robes, trunks, and boots"
*Flair's "Wrestling Hall of Fame ring"
*Flair's "Presidential Rolex, inscribed with "To Be The Man."
*Flair's "framed magazine covers, which include his likeness."
*A 4x3 autographed poster of Michael Jordan
*a 4x3 autographed poster of Vince McMahon and Flair.
*a framed, personalized Kevin Green jersey.
*Commercial claims arising from a previous lawsuit Flair was involved with.
*Additional "proceeds and products."

Conbraco recently approached Highspots to inform them that while they have yet to claim possession of any Flair assets, they would legally pursue any money raised from the sale of the belt, as they have a legal claim to the belt and its worth.

Post by Mr. Old School™ on Jul 2, 2010 18:01:04 GMT -5

Post by riderkid on Jul 2, 2010 18:03:25 GMT -5

Post by carly1988 on Jul 2, 2010 18:47:38 GMT -5

Post by Sam Hain on Jul 2, 2010 23:23:18 GMT -5

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Post by hbkrules on Jul 4, 2010 16:15:03 GMT -5

Post by carly1988 on Jul 4, 2010 19:03:12 GMT -5