thehasbrohunter
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Post by thehasbrohunter on Sept 27, 2017 14:32:36 GMT -5
Picked these up at a garage sale this weekend!!! I always wanted the raw monster ring as a kid. So happy to pick this up! oh man,forgot about those stomp figures,such a weird concept,Nice Al Snow too! and a monster ring to top it off,why can't I have your luck at garage sales? haha.
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Post by Chicago on Sept 27, 2017 14:46:13 GMT -5
I'm glad this came today, because I wanted to do something special for my 15,000th post (and this just so happens to be it!). I bought these two solid resin prototype 4" x 5" figure bases (embossed and debossed) from Terry Lattimer on eBay for $28.34 shipped. In case you're wondering, here is why Terry's name is worth mentioning around these parts: Wowsers! Where did you dig those up from? The story behind the purchase is the best part, to tell you the truth. I guess the only way to preface it would be to direct you to these blog entries of mine from March and April (respectively) of last year: Terry L. Lattimer, Where Are You?Catching up with Terry Lattimer, the man behind BCAJust being able to reach the man and speak with him about his creation was an incredible experience for me as a fan of the BCA line. I would have told you then that I doubt anything could top that, as far as being a BCA collector is concerned, but I was proven wrong about a month and a half ago. Three BCA prototypes (Owen Hart, Razor Ramon and Ultimate Warrior) were listed on eBay in the middle of July and I happened to stumble across them within that first day of bidding. The opening bid was $49.99 each for the three separate listings (reasonable for me, considering I spent $55.81 on a S.T.O.M.P. Series 3 Sable prototype last July), and from the moment I saw them I knew they had to be mine. I was worried that the cost of shipping (it was set for $10 and change, each coming from California) would be a little too steep, so I contacted the seller about the prospects of a combined shipping discount. He/she responded and I received an e-mail notification from eBay not long after which I checked right away. Only then could I see the seller's location/information in the message and it was none other than Terry Lattimer. The first thought that popped into my head was "Small world, eh?" I couldn't believe it. He remembered me from the e-mails we sent back and forth last year, and so he tipped me off to the other BCA prototypes in his possession that were for sale. He said that he recently discovered boxes of prototypes, painted samples and original sculpts from various toy lines, including Jakks BCA, in his collection and he wanted to see them go to serious collectors as opposed to collecting dust in storage for another 15-16 years. We worked out a deal for the remaining pieces, which included the rest of Superstars Series 1 complete (well, almost, but I'll get to that in a bit) and Series 2 (basically just Vader to go with Owen and Warrior, since Bret/Shawn/'Taker were all repaints from Series 1). The reason why I said "almost" complete before is that Goldust has Owen's legs (Terry couldn't find a pair of Goldust's legs at the time he was preparing them for me, so he replaced them with Owen Hart ). Oh, and after receiving them I realized that 'Taker is missing his original legs and has a pair that belongs to, you guessed it, Goldust. So, I'm only really out a pair of Series 1 'Taker legs (for now, I'll check back with him again soon for any leftover loose parts), but it's not a big deal since the gesture is what matters most to me. is that the entire first and second series? Those are almost surely the most valuable of the Jakks prototypes of the produced figures.. since they were the very first of the line. As a matter of fact, some (likely not all, I'd have to double-check with him on that) of these are THE master sculpts, as in the real McCoy. I'll get confirmation on that before I go spouting anything off that isn't true for the whole lot. How much did you pay for them? If you factor in shipping costs (which were discounted) for all nine cast resin prototypes, I paid $43.04 each and I'm okay with that. I was willing to pay more on this rare occasion because an offer like this is pretty much once in a lifetime, especially for us BCA collectors. And you know I couldn't show my face around these parts without hauling something unique to the BCA line. I think it's been about five years since I last spoke with Terry, so it was nice to catch up with him again. He's a great guy and always willing to talk about the years he worked for Jakks. As a matter of fact, he told me that he was up for a senior designer position at Mattel when they acquired the WWE license, but he opted to go down a different path in digital web design for start-ups. From what he remembers, these bases were not hand-sculpted, but rather 2D images made into rubber stamps which were then molded and cast. Likely sometime in 1997 (probably late '97 since the scratch logo made its debut in an ad shown during Survivor Series). He said these could have easily been hand-sculpted if they had wanted, but they were on a tight schedule and whatever worked the fastest back then was preferred. Here are some more pics of the bases along with the finished product: I'll have to go back and check, but I believe the scratch logo bases (with their 1998 copyright on the bottom) weren't released until January/February of 1999 with Signature Series 3. Yes, that Signature Series 3 which gave us Jacqueline, one of the worst (or maybe best, depending on how you look at it) shelfwarmers of all time.
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Post by Lego Customs! on Sept 28, 2017 6:26:23 GMT -5
I'm sure it's been covered before but it just occurred to me that we never got a BCA Jim Neidhart
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Post by Chicago on Oct 3, 2017 16:53:42 GMT -5
I'm sure it's been covered before but it just occurred to me that we never got a BCA Jim Neidhart Yep. It sucks not being able to complete the 1997 Hart Foundation. Still, I wouldn't trade him for any of the other members. His time was short and it wasn't a memorable period for him as far as his in-ring work was concerned. He would have been a forgotten name on my roster in no time.
Speaking of the Hart family, I finally got a good look at a variation of the original Jakks Monster Ring box art featuring Bret Hart. This comes courtesy of an eBay seller (nutsonormal) based out of New York, but I suspect it originated in Canada. French Canadian cards of Superstars Series 4, Series 5, Tag Team Series 1, and Ringside Collection Series 1 are common to that region (duh lol). Now, the fun part would be in finding out just when these were available for sale. Several of those lines on the back weren't released in the U.S. until the fall of 1997, or shortly before the Montreal Screwjob took place. I know Mr. Old School™ used to own both versions. In fact, I think it was his picture which first tipped me off to it. Does anyone else own this version of the Monster Ring or remember when they would have seen it in stores? By the way, all of the parts are identical to the standard Monster Ring sold here in the U.S. Here's a look at the front and back of an original Monster Ring box with a look ahead to Superstars Series 2 and 3 on the back.
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ashestoembers
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Post by ashestoembers on Oct 5, 2017 18:12:36 GMT -5
My favorite would probably be the executioner exclusive from the buried alive 4 pack
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Post by theforce1727 on Oct 6, 2017 7:38:20 GMT -5
Recently stumbled across some loose BCA’s at a flea market and it brought back so many memories. Now I’m looking to buy a large lot of them. Loose preferred. Anyone got a big group they wanna sell? Shoot me a PM please.
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Post by Chicago on Oct 6, 2017 10:24:05 GMT -5
My favorite would probably be the executioner exclusive from the buried alive 4 pack Executioner is a great figure. Not something I would have ever requested as a kid, but it was a perfect way to add an obscure character to the line. Best thing that came of it was using the Executioner's arms on the Shotgun Saturday Night Series 1 Road Warriors figures. Love those repaints.
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Post by ashestoembers on Oct 6, 2017 11:00:18 GMT -5
That's a great idea. That executioner is one of my favorites
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Post by WWE Fig guy on Oct 11, 2017 21:56:42 GMT -5
For Chicago or any one else....just wanted to know youre favorite made up ring attire/ t shirt jakks made for these bcas.Dusting off my collection I came across that weird shade of green edge attire,and thought it would have been cool if he ever wore it then.
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Post by Chicago on Oct 12, 2017 2:12:09 GMT -5
For Chicago or any one else....just wanted to know youre favorite made up ring attire/ t shirt jakks made for these bcas.Dusting off my collection I came across that weird shade of green edge attire,and thought it would have been cool if he ever wore it then. Great selection. I remember getting that Edge figure in seafoam green when it came out in the late spring/early summer of 1999 and couldn't wait to use him in my fed. Here's a pic of one I bought many years later: As for my favorite made-up attire, that's a tough one. I thought it over for a few minutes and settled on this Signature Series 6 Undertaker figure I've always liked:
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mrassbillygunn
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Post by mrassbillygunn on Oct 12, 2017 4:55:27 GMT -5
Chicago, see the black hat that came with series 1 undertaker and later jeff jarrett, what could I use as a substitute for it? Was this a standard black hat used in the later jakks series like the classics line and such. The reason im asking is because its hard to get loose figures complete with the hat. Awesome collection by the way!
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Post by ellisd on Oct 12, 2017 11:21:27 GMT -5
Chicago, see the black hat that came with series 1 undertaker and later jeff jarrett, what could I use as a substitute for it? Was this a standard black hat used in the later jakks series like the classics line and such. The reason im asking is because its hard to get loose figures complete with the hat. Awesome collection by the way! You could get loose Blackjacks figures and carefully remove their hats. They may work for your Jarrett, Series 1 Takers hat was a different style. But I do know that the cowboy hat does fit on the all black Undertaker that came out next, can't remember the series number at the moment but was in numerous box sets.
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Post by WWE Fig guy on Oct 12, 2017 14:47:29 GMT -5
For Chicago or any one else....just wanted to know youre favorite made up ring attire/ t shirt jakks made for these bcas.Dusting off my collection I came across that weird shade of green edge attire,and thought it would have been cool if he ever wore it then. Great selection. I remember getting that Edge figure in seafoam green when it came out in the late spring/early summer of 1999 and couldn't wait to use him in my fed. Here's a pic of one I bought many years later: As for my favorite made-up attire, that's a tough one. I thought it over for a few minutes and settled on this Signature Series 6 Undertaker figure I've always liked: nice! I do remember that taker,it was right when ttl bust onto the scene...those were some hideous looking figures up until we were blessed with real scan! I seriously cant believe our bca nostalgia is over 20 years old! Seems like yesterday I was selling my Kevin Garnett basketball cards just to get to toys r us and pick up the ljn v2 monster ring with ultimate warrior! Ha speaking of one off attires,what the hell was up with the wm14 series,more specifically the rock!?
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Post by Chicago on Oct 12, 2017 15:22:34 GMT -5
Chicago, see the black hat that came with series 1 undertaker and later jeff jarrett, what could I use as a substitute for it? Was this a standard black hat used in the later jakks series like the classics line and such. The reason im asking is because its hard to get loose figures complete with the hat. Awesome collection by the way! Yeah, I'm pretty sure the BCA molds were still used during the later Jakks years. When you mention incomplete loose figures, are you referring to BCAs in your collection or the Jakks CS figures? You could get loose Blackjacks figures and carefully remove their hats. They may work for your Jarrett, Series 1 Takers hat was a different style. But I do know that the cowboy hat does fit on the all black Undertaker that came out next, can't remember the series number at the moment but was in numerous box sets. I'd have to go back and look at the various other lines, but here are all of the BCA figures I'm aware of which came with a cowboy hat (or bowler hat in the case of Undertaker): Best of '97 Series 1 Undertaker (same hat as Superstars Series 1 & 2) Best of '98 Series 1 Blackjack Bradshaw (same glued-on hat as Tag Team Series 1) Best of '98 Series 2 "Double J" Jeff Jarrett (same hat as Superstars Series 6) Ringside Collection Series 2 Jim Ross Superstars Series 4 "Bad Boys" Justin Hawk Bradshaw Superstars Series 8 "Team Corporate" Commissioner Michaels
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Post by mrassbillygunn on Oct 12, 2017 15:35:48 GMT -5
Chicago, see the black hat that came with series 1 undertaker and later jeff jarrett, what could I use as a substitute for it? Was this a standard black hat used in the later jakks series like the classics line and such. The reason im asking is because its hard to get loose figures complete with the hat. Awesome collection by the way! Yeah, I'm pretty sure the BCA molds were still used during the later Jakks years. When you mention incomplete loose figures, are you referring to BCAs in your collection or the Jakks CS figures? Im referring to BCA's. I never knew J.R came with with a hat, every loose figure ive seen never seems to have it.
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Post by Chicago on Oct 12, 2017 15:47:01 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the BCA molds were still used during the later Jakks years. When you mention incomplete loose figures, are you referring to BCAs in your collection or the Jakks CS figures? Im referring to BCA's. I never knew J.R came with with a hat, every loose figure ive seen never seems to have it. Oh, okay. They shouldn't be too difficult to replace. JR's hat is a little different in that it's a solid hard piece and not flexible like the others.
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Post by Chicago on Oct 12, 2017 16:05:18 GMT -5
nice! I do remember that taker,it was right when ttl bust onto the scene...those were some hideous looking figures up until we were blessed with real scan! I seriously cant believe our bca nostalgia is over 20 years old! Seems like yesterday I was selling my Kevin Garnett basketball cards just to get to toys r us and pick up the ljn v2 monster ring with ultimate warrior! Ha speaking of one off attires,what the hell was up with the wm14 series,more specifically the rock!? I've never heard a definitive reason, but here's what I believe happened with WMXIV Rocky: One of the more curious ring attire choices for the BCA line belonged to the WrestleMania XIV Series Rocky Maivia figure. It was released to stores in the summer of 1998 and most certainly did not live up to its name if that meant an accurate representation of The Rock at WMXIV. Instead, we got a quasi-repaint of Rocky Maivia's black and teal ring gear from the Championship Title Series 4-pack with "THE ROCK" printed on his right thigh. Did The Rock ever wear the long tights his figure had in the Wrestlemania XIV Series? I know he didnt wear them at the event. But I've always thought his figure looked cool with long tights. Pretty sure he never did. Also, I liked how the WMXIV set were comprised of figures that didn't actually wear that attire at WMXIV. Michaels in white (where the match he wore red), Rock in long pants (as opposed to his tights with "THE ROCK" on the back...which was the figure I was hoping for). Not real as actually being on WWF TV? No, definitely not lol. Probably the biggest stretch of the imagination relating to the BCA line. Unless, of course, you reserve that right for Rocky Maivia's fantasy attire in the WrestleMania XIV Series. As you can see, we've discussed it to some extent before in this thread, but I wanted to share something that I've had saved in a document for about five years. I can't remember where I first heard this, but an explanation was once given for the unusual BCA Rocky figure wearing long tights. Here it is: I would hope that this was the case and Jakks had a reason for doing what they did. Otherwise, I just..don't... know.
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Post by hitmancmedge on Oct 12, 2017 19:26:31 GMT -5
I almost bought that figur just for the absurdness of the tights, Jakks just did whatever the heck they wanted. It's up there with LOD 2000 Hawk in a shirt.
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Post by 3Lephant (Naptown Icon) on Oct 14, 2017 7:48:02 GMT -5
I recently received a facsimile signature Undertaker with all black attire and the slammers action on the back and was trying to figure out its origins? Does anyone know what series this was? Thanks
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Post by Chicago on Oct 14, 2017 12:53:18 GMT -5
I recently received a facsimile signature Undertaker with all black attire and the slammers action on the back and was trying to figure out its origins? Does anyone know what series this was? Thanks It's likely from either the JCPenney Exclusive Slammers Autographed Collection 4-Pack or Ultimate Collection 4-Pack:
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