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Post by Sean - Infested Films on Oct 8, 2010 17:19:03 GMT -5
I dunno, like I said, the only things I can think of that are really torture porn are the Saw films (which have been decreasing in success with each entry, just like Friday, Halloween, and NOES before them), and the Hostel films. Beyond that, there is A Serbian Film, Captivity (which felt the backlash) and that's all I can really think of.
Mainstream horror is NOT mostly torture porn. In fact, the most popular horror now is PG-13 ghost stories and remakes (some of which are even R, but still terrible).
The most popular horror films from the past year or two:
Prom Night
Sorority Row
The Stepfather
The Unborn
The Uninvited
Those are the films that have rented like crazy at Blockbuster and done well at the box office.
Now, some stuff that has done terrible in comparison, like Splice and Frozen. Those tend to be the quality films, that don't get big mainstream releases, it seems like the ones that do get wide release are watered down crap, y'know, like it's always been.
Sorry kids, but Scream has always sucked. A bunch of 13 year olds in 1996 had their minds blown by it, but it's not a good movie. It was the first mainstream film to acknowledge what it was doing, but that's not an example of greatness, they just did it first.
Films like Behind the Mask are thousands of times better, but somehow, they don't make lists like these because it didn't get a wide release?
The OP might have been talking only about mainstream horror, but we're here to say Mainstream Horror has always been stupid crap, the real gold in horror is in the underground films. Better put?
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Post by katphishjake on Oct 8, 2010 17:24:33 GMT -5
yeah, i was also going to mention the pg-13 fluff ghost stories, most specifically spawned by films like The Ring, and those are probably the ones i actually dislike the most. but yeah, exactly like you said, most mainstream horror isn't GOOD but appeals to the masses, especially those pg-13 films like mentioned above because of the fact that they can appeal to wider audiences in that you don't have to be over 17 to be admitted to the show. i think all of it is a lack of imagination and people just trying to capitalize and make a quick buck (specifically the remakes in the last handful of years), because ultimately for alot of people, that's all it's about, which is sad to say. and yeah, i wasn't trying to argue or anything, just pointing out what i had initially read. well put.  |
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Post by Oskanowski on Oct 8, 2010 17:50:51 GMT -5
I haven't been a big fan on Horror anyways. Too much violence and blood ruins movies. The last good scary movie I've seen was The Strangers. It was pretty suspenseful.
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Post by WWE fanatic 78 on Oct 8, 2010 18:30:12 GMT -5
I actually kind of liked the Stepfather remake.  |
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Post by duan on Oct 8, 2010 22:17:43 GMT -5
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Post by Sam Hain on Oct 8, 2010 23:04:02 GMT -5
I don't think we'll ever see it peak again like it did in the 80's. I lived through that horror boom, and it was way bigger than what we got back in 96.
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Post by TheNinthCloud on Oct 8, 2010 23:09:50 GMT -5
The Crazies
The entire Saw series
The Collector
The Stepfather (If it counts)
are all just a few off the top of my head that were good.
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Post by k5 on Oct 9, 2010 0:07:34 GMT -5
i'm not sure about a comeback, but it'll always retain it's spot - people like being scared.
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Post by James Hardy on Oct 9, 2010 12:18:03 GMT -5
I'm surprised at how popular SAW is, given how bad it really is. Story wise I think it's pretty smart. Acting wise it's god awful, one or two actors are good then the rest just make me want to turn the movie off. But like I said story wise they have a good thing going, I mean I do keep coming back. Yeah the acting has always been awful, but think about it.. in every F13th movie from the 80's all you got was bad acting so it's really not a pivotal aspect of a horror film. The Saw series was decent through the fourth entry, but then it just became bland, especially since Jigsaw is dead and only seen through flash backs. I honestly only like the first 2 with the 3rd and 4th being average but still watchable.. the other three though... Terrible. |
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Post by Sean - Infested Films on Oct 9, 2010 15:06:16 GMT -5
I'm surprised at how popular SAW is, given how bad it really is. Story wise I think it's pretty smart. Acting wise it's god awful, one or two actors are good then the rest just make me want to turn the movie off. But like I said story wise they have a good thing going, I mean I do keep coming back. Yeah the acting has always been awful, but think about it.. in every F13th movie from the 80's all you got was bad acting so it's really not a pivotal aspect of a horror film. The Saw series was decent through the fourth entry, but then it just became bland, especially since Jigsaw is dead and only seen through flash backs. I honestly only like the first 2 with the 3rd and 4th being average but still watchable.. the other three though... Terrible. I really liked the third one best, thought it had the most going storywise, it connects every dot up to that point nicely. After that, I stopped caring. Still haven't seen 5 or 6, but I will one day. I cannot stand the first Saw movie, I love Cary Elwes, but that has to be his worst acting performance ever. And the kid that wrote it? Unbearably bad. The hook of the first movie is cool, I can't watch it as a whole though, too boring and too much painful acting. However, crapty acting is something to be expected in horror movies, so that alone does not bother me. The fact that the last 5 Saw movies had better acting than the first one, that is a bit off putting, but still wholly acceptable by genre terms in my opinion. |
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Post by pwsphil on Oct 10, 2010 20:33:49 GMT -5
There are always some good some bad. Horror will never go away just have cycles of good/great/bad/terrible.
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Post by Edgeman05 on Oct 10, 2010 22:03:17 GMT -5
Yeah the acting has always been awful, but think about it.. in every F13th movie from the 80's all you got was bad acting so it's really not a pivotal aspect of a horror film. The Saw series was decent through the fourth entry, but then it just became bland, especially since Jigsaw is dead and only seen through flash backs. I honestly only like the first 2 with the 3rd and 4th being average but still watchable.. the other three though... Terrible. I really liked the third one best, thought it had the most going storywise, it connects every dot up to that point nicely. After that, I stopped caring. Still haven't seen 5 or 6, but I will one day. I cannot stand the first Saw movie, I love Cary Elwes, but that has to be his worst acting performance ever. And the kid that wrote it? Unbearably bad. The hook of the first movie is cool, I can't watch it as a whole though, too boring and too much painful acting. However, ****ty acting is something to be expected in horror movies, so that alone does not bother me. The fact that the last 5 Saw movies had better acting than the first one, that is a bit off putting, but still wholly acceptable by genre terms in my opinion. That is so weird Sean, I find the third one to be the WORST. Ive seen it once and have never bothered with it again. I did just rent it for my Saw-a-thon. I thought the first one was the best. Acting was meh but I guess I still find the ending to be sweet since it was so unexpected. The sequels all have there strengths and weaknesses. Im glad you mentioned Behind The Mask. That movie deserves more viewings. Such an awesome movie. Manages to be hilarious and "scary" at the same time. Especially the guy who plays the main character...wasnt that his first featured film? |
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Post by Rant Casey on Oct 11, 2010 0:18:29 GMT -5
I'm kind of surprised that nobody has mentioned "Drag me to Hell" yet. Some people found it more funny than scary but it is the only movie in the last 2 years that legit scared me, and still creeps me out if I watch it late at night.
As for the Saw flicks, I really dug the 3rd one, but after the 4th I haven't bothered watching them.
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Post by Byron F'N Saxton Fan on Oct 11, 2010 0:39:38 GMT -5
Haven't really read the Thread, so I'm sure it's been brought up a few times, but while in the past couple of years hardcore Horror has made somewhat of a comeback, even though some are remakes/take-off's, and the rest are sequals to Saw, but I'm sick and tired of PG-13 Horror films where a girl has to save someone and you get about one bloody scene in the entire Movie.
Don't know why we've been inundated with them, this past decade, but hopefully the new Scream Trilogy and the Child's Play remake will help get Teenage girls saving the day with one or two hard cuss words out of the way so we can get the good 'ol R-Rated Slasher films back.
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Oct 11, 2010 3:14:52 GMT -5
I actually kind of liked the Stepfather remake. Same here, especially the beginning and the end... The actual story was a little lacking, but it was not a bad movie by any means. My only problem with most horror movies coming out these days is the need to release them PG-13... If only theatres would be more lenient about the R rating, we wouldn't be having this problem. Just one more reason to miss the 80s  Also, as long as Guillermo Del Toro is around, we'll get good horror movies. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2010 5:55:39 GMT -5
I'm kind of surprised that nobody has mentioned "Drag me to Hell" yet. Some people found it more funny than scary but it is the only movie in the last 2 years that legit scared me, and still creeps me out if I watch it late at night. . I didnt find that scary/creepy at all.helped me that the lead character was so unlikeable though......then I found out Raimi intended her to be unlikeable.....confusing why make the person you are meant to be rooting for unlikeable? I was rooting for the Genie after the cat scene. |
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Post by Official WF Ghostbuster on Oct 11, 2010 10:45:44 GMT -5
I just wrote a note on Facebook about this. I am a huge horror fan, and the state of the genre is a little sad to me.
The world of horror is at a crossroads. With prequels, sequels, and direct-to-dvd trite schlocking its way to theaters and store shelves at an alarming rate, one thing is perfectly clear. Now is the perfect time for some new blood… pun intended.
Remember the 80’s horror scene? I do. There were scores of bad movies clogging my local Home Vision Video. But, in those aisles, behind all of the ratty old VHS boxes, locked in the plastic protectors was my childhood. From the cream of the crop like FRIDAY THE 13TH, HALLOWEEN, PIRAHNA, and FRIGHT NIGHT to the bottom of the barrel titles AMERICAN GOTHIC and JAWS: THE REVENGE, they all had a small part in shaping who I am today, for better or for worse.
But today? I took a trip to the Family Video store where I used to work, to see what they had for horror. From the garbage DAY OF THE DEAD remake to pretty much anything ASYLUM puts out, it made one thing abundantly clear to me: There is no better time for a new franchise to emerge and take over the reigns as top dog in horror.
With SAW taking its reportedly (and hopefully) final bow this month, there opens a large gap. As creatively shallow as the films are, they have become a staple come October. With its forthcoming absence, along with Freddy’s recent debacle, and Jason’s sequel hitting idle, the horror landscape looks fairly grim. What can step in? THE THING prequel is shooting now, so a 2011 release is a lock. But what else? PARANORMAL ACTIVITY 2 will be releasing soon, but does that have the legs to turn into a real franchise? I doubt it. The sad fact is that everything remade has come up short creatively and financially. Freddy and Jason just didn’t cut it (pun intended) at the box office. The hardcore fans hated the new directions, and the newer fans just didn’t “get it”. I won’t even bring up THE HITCHER remake.
So what does this mean? Call it the optimist in me, but I look at it like this. Now is the time for someone, anyone, to step up and create the new sensation. The era of Freddy and Jason, sadly, appears to be over. Right now, writers around the world should be excited at the thought of the chance to create the new horror icon. Someone or something to send shivers down the spines of children and adults everywhere, something that will create a buzz and reinvigorate the genre.
Unfortunately for us, it probably means that more sequels will be cranked out, and creativity will be seen as just another roadblock to the big bucks. The mindset right now seems to be “milk whatever was popular for as much as we can, then do crossovers, then do reboots. Wash, rinse, repeat”. The only problem is that these endless sequels do little more than tarnish the reputations of the originals. Now when I think of Michael Meyers, I think of the redneck kid who had crappy parents that got beat up by Busta Rhymes. When I think of Freddy I think of the wrongfully accused janitor who can’t decide if he’s serious or a stand up comedian. When I think of Jason, I think of an architectural genius. Far from the original concepts, but that’s where we are.
So I ask… no, I beg. Please, Hollywood writers. Please give me and my genre *something* worth watching! Give me more TRICK R TREAT! More PARANORMAL ACTIVITY! Just make me feel something besides boredom! Now is the time! As the great Tom Atkins would say, Thrill me!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2010 11:08:51 GMT -5
We've gotten n the past 5 years:
Funny Games
Hatchet
Drag Me To Hell
Let The Right One In
Devil's Rejects
Repo: The Genentic Opera
2001 Maniacs
Hills Have Eyes Remake
Halloween Remake
Slither
30 Days of night
Among other great ones.......
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Post by katphishjake on Oct 11, 2010 15:19:01 GMT -5
too bad Paranormal Activity was probably the worst "horror" movie i've seen in years. and 30 Days of Night was a  ING FANTASTIC concept, horrible execution. |
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Post by Sean - Infested Films on Oct 11, 2010 21:12:59 GMT -5
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