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Post by Jimmy on Nov 22, 2010 8:53:43 GMT -5
I was in favor of giving the guy a title run just for all that he's done, but it's been four months now (which is a Sammartino-like reign in current WWE) and he is just the dullest dull that ever did dull. The feud with Undertaker didn't need or involve the title at all and while I appreciate the idea behind Edge kidnapping Bearer and all, the two just don't have much chemistry. SmackDown is brimming with young heels like Alberto Del Rio, Jack Swagger, Cody Rhodes, Dolph Ziggler and even Drew McIntyre who could all have main event programs with a babyface champion. I just think back to that awesome triple threat match between Edge, Mysterio, and Del Rio on SmackDown a few weeks ago and how instead of that as a main event we get sporadic fifteen minute Kane snoozefests.
It's not really a knock on Kane, the guy is what he is and he's not terrible. But so far he's the guy who has the longest reign in 2010 of either of the two world titles, and he shouldn't be that guy.
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Post by machoking on Nov 22, 2010 9:00:39 GMT -5
Kane has been horrible for years now, the fact he even got a courtesy reign is baffling. The sooner this run comes to an end the better.
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Post by White Trash Lucha on Nov 22, 2010 9:03:51 GMT -5
I was really hoping Edge would win last night, I'm glad Kane got the WHC he deserved but his run has gone on for too long now. I sadly see him holding the title for longer now that Edge didn't win.
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Post by DgenerationX092 on Nov 22, 2010 9:07:47 GMT -5
Kane could stay champion for another year and I'd probably still approve.
Yeah, the world title has taken a backseat to whatever fued he's in, and it shouldnt be that way, but I think more good comes from Kane than bad.
None of the heels you mentioned deserve the title IMO. His storyline with Taker, (aside from the matches) has been the most enjoyable storyline in years behind Nexus.
Really though, the selfish 9 year-old Kane mark in me has just wanted Kane to be champion for about 10 years now so Im just enjoying it for as long as they plan on keeping it with him.
His matches really could be better though. I dont know what's not working for him in this run. Actually, I think Kane's best matches are when he's pitted against a quicker opponent, and Edge didnt do that at SVS. Im not blaming Edge for the bad match, but they went with the wrong match theory I think.
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Post by ● kaneisdaman ● on Nov 22, 2010 9:12:10 GMT -5
Becuase the guys earned it, he's been pulling the best promos all year out of anyone on the roster and the man deserves a decent run. I think with the modern age, people are just too impatient to see one guy hold a title so long. Seriously, regardless of my folowing of the kane character, its been a huge breath of fresh air for the world title list this year to have swagger and kane as two unique first time holders of the world title. Kanes had it because he's been reliable. And people claim the taker feud didnt need the world title but it actually did. If not people would have claimed its the whole weve seen it all before. The title gave it a new dimension and reinforced the storyline that kane wanted to truly rise above taker. I know not everyone enjoys kanes ring work and thats fine, he aint the most technical but it is sports entertainment and hes done a great job in the entertainment aspect and his matches havent been as bad as people have stated. Theyve been predominately gimmick matches anyway.
Kane is obviously still champion because its something new, something fresh and vince obviously has been impressed enough to put and keep the title on him.
Either way, im happy that Kanes had this run i honestly though he never would have gotten. 1 day was nothing, 4 months is something.
And on the young guns thing, i understand and they should efinitely get a shot sometime but its best to keep building, im getting tired of seeing this hot shotting occurring too often. They hot shot, get the accolade and then they hit a brick wall. Im more happy to see the talent keep buildin a good profile so they are more believable. Plus, if anyones good enough for putting talent over, Kanes been doin that for years.
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Post by Jimmy on Nov 22, 2010 9:18:21 GMT -5
Kane is obviously still champion because its something new, something fresh and vince obviously has been impressed enough to put and keep the title on him. but see, that's the thing I have to disagree with. He's the same old Kane doing the same old things, only he happens to have the title around his waist. He seemingly barely even mentions being world champion. As far as his promos, I (kayfabe) bought into his desire to be better than the Undertaker but at no point have I been convinced that being champion was important to him.
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Post by ● kaneisdaman ● on Nov 22, 2010 9:24:26 GMT -5
Kane is obviously still champion because its something new, something fresh and vince obviously has been impressed enough to put and keep the title on him. but see, that's the thing I have to disagree with. He's the same old Kane doing the same old things, only he happens to have the title around his waist. He seemingly barely even mentions being world champion. As far as his promos, I (kayfabe) bought into his desire to be better than the Undertaker but at no point have I been convinced that being champion was important to him. Id say his promo on the SD following MITB made it pretty clear. He basically said for 13 years hes felt helpless or strugglin because he hasnt had the world title (i know the time is inaccurate). Plus they try to reinforce him mentioning it as 'the holy grail' to him. But that initial promo explained a lot. Sure this Kane seems a little similar to the Kane before but honestly, with the way the taker story has gone and so forth and his many promos it does make him different to before. Before he seemed kinda weak like they played the intimidating card but it wasnt anything real but since becomin world champion his character does appear more stronger and forceful. But also it is a tough spot because like Taker hes a heavily gimmick based character so unlike edge or cena or anyone who is more 'human' taker and kane dont express desire as much.
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Post by johnnypoopypants on Nov 22, 2010 9:26:42 GMT -5
Dolph Ziggler should be champion and the title should change every other week.
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Nov 22, 2010 9:29:16 GMT -5
Kane's never interested me at all to be honest so this title run has been painful... and one of the reasons I don't really watch Smackdown anymore either.
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Post by tom on Nov 22, 2010 9:42:51 GMT -5
Like most others, I was glad to see him get a real title reign, but it is getting to be a little too much. Redundant and boring.
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Post by missedgehead on Nov 22, 2010 9:54:04 GMT -5
Sadly, Kane is getting more of reign than Edge has EVER GOTTEN. What a BS finish last night. Why do I think that at TLC , the "kidnapped" Paul Bearer is going to come down and help Kane screw Edge out of a win and the belt in EDGE'S OWN MATCH, a Tables Ladders and Chairs match? I don't think Edge is ever going to get that 10th Title reign which I think is BS. Kane's had it long enough as it is.
There are rumors out there that Kane may keep the belt till Mania.
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Post by eddie eddie on Nov 22, 2010 10:08:05 GMT -5
i'm all for long reigns, but yeah, Kane's had his time. there isn't much for him to do to keep his reign interesting.
sad thing is, i don't really see a way out of Kane's title reign without him looking weak.
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Post by JTG on Nov 22, 2010 10:23:16 GMT -5
Actually I kind of dig Kane as World Champion. I've always been a fan of his work and even though WWE was about 8 years too late with this World Title run, I'm more or less glad he got a good reign before he hung up the boots. Also, the fact that anybody has held a World Championship in WWE for 4 monthes this year makes me happy. It'll be somewhat special when someone finally beats Kane for it.
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Post by marino13 on Nov 22, 2010 10:24:38 GMT -5
I've actually enjoyed Kane's run so far. The guy is cutting some of the best promos ever. Now I will say his feud with Edge isn't the greatest, but I still want him as champ. But chances are he'll lose it to Edge at TLC in the rematch.
I do like the idea of guys like McIntyre, Rhodes or Del Rio as champ!
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Post by ms13 on Nov 22, 2010 10:30:32 GMT -5
None of the heels you mentioned deserve the title IMO. No one ever said they should have the title, but with Edge as World champion having revolving programes with guys like Swagger, Rhodes, Ziggler and Del Rio chasing the title would do wonders for each and every one of them. It's not about making them champion.. It's about building them as stars so they can look credible later on. Hell, even a Kane/Kofi fued for the title wouldn't hurt anyone.
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Post by ● kaneisdaman ● on Nov 22, 2010 11:07:41 GMT -5
Sadly, Kane is getting more of reign than Edge has EVER GOTTEN. What a BS finish last night. Why do I think that at TLC , the "kidnapped" Paul Bearer is going to come down and help Kane screw Edge out of a win and the belt in EDGE'S OWN MATCH, a Tables Ladders and Chairs match? I don't think Edge is ever going to get that 10th Title reign which I think is BS. Kane's had it long enough as it is. There are rumors out there that Kane may keep the belt till Mania. Thats the problem ive always had with Edges reigns. So many yet they were too short and really just forgettable and having so many short ones just really doesnt do wonders for anyone. Sure 9 may look good on a resume but he lost it 9 times and too often it was too short. Thats why im glad kanes having a nice lengthy one. Its more impressive. I think 10 reigns for edge is ridiculous (id reserve an accolade for a select few but i think so many reigns is really quite insane) but thats just me. Unfortunately for kane though, i do see edges 10th happenning at TLC in the match he pretty much owns. I dont think Edge will lose a TLC match. Id love to be wrong on this but i reckon edge will get the title.
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Post by Jack. on Nov 22, 2010 11:16:06 GMT -5
don't worry Edge wins the title at TLC.
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Post by wabarrett on Nov 22, 2010 11:24:44 GMT -5
I half agree, I half disagree.
I agree that Kane's matches can be dull at times, he isn't the best in the ring. I also agree that his reign has been quite long.
However, I think that Kane has more than deserved a solid title run, after a couple of years or more of being totally irrelevant. He's at least a decent wrestler, and is a good talker as well, as we've seen.
I don't think last night would have been the right time to lose the title though, even if his reign is getting boring. It would have made me think 'he can beat Undertaker three straight PPVs, but he can't beat Edge'? I honestly think Kane vs. Edge TLC match next month would be an entertaining match and would be a good way for Kane to lose the belt; he'd be losing to Edge who is in his element in TLC, so it wouldn't totally destroy Kane's dominant presence.
Anyway, you asked. I've answered.
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Post by Gazza on Nov 22, 2010 11:27:09 GMT -5
Sadly, Kane is getting more of reign than Edge has EVER GOTTEN. What a BS finish last night. Why do I think that at TLC , the "kidnapped" Paul Bearer is going to come down and help Kane screw Edge out of a win and the belt in EDGE'S OWN MATCH, a Tables Ladders and Chairs match? I don't think Edge is ever going to get that 10th Title reign which I think is BS. Kane's had it long enough as it is. There are rumors out there that Kane may keep the belt till Mania. Theres no saying it's a TLC match. Could be a Ladder.. a tables or even a chairs match.
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Post by bitetheswagger on Nov 22, 2010 11:34:54 GMT -5
Theres no saying it's a TLC match. Could be a Ladder.. a tables or even a chairs match. Yeah, it seems people forgot that possibility...
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