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Post by cordless2016 on Dec 17, 2010 13:18:03 GMT -5
So I was talking w/ a friend last night about how much the WWE has changed in the last 10 years, and we got into a debate about which was the best year for the WWE during the last decade. I thought it would be cool to see what everybody though about each year and decided to do this topic. Starting w/ the year 2000.
WWF 2000:
Main Eventers: The Rock, Triple H, Steve Austin, The Undertaker, Mick Foley
Upper Mid-Carders: Kurt Angle, Chris Jericho, Chris Benoit, Rikishi, Kane, Big Show
Mid-Carders: Eddie Guerrero, Val Venis, X-Pac, Billy Gunn, William Regal, Taz, Raven, Perry Saturn, Dean Malenko, Steve Blackman, Crash Holly, Hardcore Holly, Al Snow, Road Dogg
Tag Teams: Hardy Boyz, Dudley Boyz, , Edge & Christian, APA, Too Cool, D-X, Radicalz, T&A
The year 2000 was probably the most exciting year for me in wrestling during the last decade. The Rock and Triple H were the new guys leading the company, and guys like Angle, Benoit, and Jericho were starting to bring back technical wrestling, something that seemed to be missing during most of the attitude era. Younger stars were being more heavily relied upon while veterans like Austin and Taker missed most of the first half of the year w/ injuries. Foley had a great series of matches to end his career, and the tag team division was as strong as ever.
There were some cons though IMO from this year. Besides for the WWF Title, every other title seemed to be switching hands every few weeks, obviously bringing the value of the titles down. While the Rock-Triple H feud was great, they were featured together in 6 PPV main events together, and it did get rather old by SummerSlam. Also, while it was great to see the younger stars getting more TV time, the absence of Austin did seem to leave a hole in the WWF roster during the first half of the year.
So what do you guys think of the WWF during the year 2000?
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Dec 17, 2010 13:42:53 GMT -5
2010 was the best year of the decade IMO, the rest of the decade was pretty meh.
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Post by ztj_wwf on Dec 17, 2010 14:23:53 GMT -5
2010 was the best year of the decade IMO, the rest of the decade was pretty meh. 2010 isn't part of the decade nimrod. |
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Dec 17, 2010 16:02:23 GMT -5
2010 was the best year of the decade IMO, the rest of the decade was pretty meh. 2010 isn't part of the decade nimrod. Well excuse the  out of me. I made a little mistake, you don't need to be a jackass about it. |
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Post by Oskanowski on Dec 17, 2010 16:04:53 GMT -5
2010 was the best year of the decade IMO, the rest of the decade was pretty meh. 2010 isn't part of the decade nimrod. |
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Post by cjskittles4 on Dec 17, 2010 16:05:24 GMT -5
2010 was pretty good, but nowhere near 2000. No comparison what so ever....
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Post by The Stranger on Dec 17, 2010 16:21:41 GMT -5
2000 - One of the best years in WWE, period.
2001 - Apart from the Invasion angle, this was a special year with great matches.
2002 - Hell of a roster, but it wasn't organized. SD! beat the living crap out of RAW.
2003 - Again, SD > RAW. Probably the most underrated year.
2004 - Ehh, seeing Benoit & Eddie winning the belts was pretty much the only thing that really stands out.
2005 - I may catch crap for this, but I liked 2005. Angle/HBK, HBK's heel turn, great matches.
2006 - Things were getting too gimmicky here. WM22 was very good though. ECW was awful.
2007 - Least favorite year behind 2009. Lashley, Khali, Batista, ughhhh.
2008 - One of the best years of the decade, and in recent times. Jericho/HBK feud was phenomenal.
2009 - The worst year of the decade. Absolutely awful, apart from maybe one or two things.
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Post by eddie eddie on Dec 17, 2010 16:22:41 GMT -5
i don't think this thread is meant to be about comparisons, but more about dissecting the year 2000.
WWF 2000 was really cool. as a kid, i hated it. the mcmahon-helmsley crap bothered me so much. looking back at it now with Benoit, Guerrero, and all that talent running around, it was pretty nice. Above Average.
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Post by No Brokeback on Dec 17, 2010 17:04:38 GMT -5
I'd say from 00 to 04, was good. But around 05 is when they started losing alot of the older fanbase.
Older wrestlers were doing nothing interesting, young wrestlers were pretty boring as well.
and now, everything is like a giant scoop of vanilla ice cream.
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Post by King Silva on Dec 17, 2010 18:01:04 GMT -5
I say above average because I don't think anything is perfect.
I became a fan in 2000 so of course I like all of this time the most.
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Post by cordless2016 on Dec 17, 2010 20:33:16 GMT -5
i don't think this thread is meant to be about comparisons, but more about dissecting the year 2000. WWF 2000 was really cool. as a kid, i hated it. the mcmahon-helmsley poop bothered me so much. looking back at it now with Benoit, Guerrero, and all that talent running around, it was pretty nice. Above Average. Yeah I was hoping to just review the year 2000 and if enough people responded, I'd continue w/ 2001, then 2002, etc... |
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Post by Lewscher on Dec 17, 2010 21:13:42 GMT -5
I'd say from 00 to 04, was good. But around 05 is when they started losing alot of the older fanbase. Older wrestlers were doing nothing interesting, young wrestlers were pretty boring as well. and now, everything is like a giant scoop of vanilla ice cream. this, this is my feeling exact! with the death of wcw/ecw came the death of wwf (obv cause of the wwf) and then the wwe as it began...... attitude era really built up wrestling as a tv product, then just this 2000 decade went down hill so much, i loved the RAW (punn intended) feel of the wwf 2003 and previous, last good thing i know of from the later was jbl big show barbed cage 04, and cena jbl i quit 05, last attitude and ecw styled wrestling i feel i got from the wwe i since then around 06 i toned out completely and tna is now my fix of current afairs.... i just love attitude so much for what it was tv and now the wwe isnt what i expect from wrestling, i loved the drama and hardcore wwf with all the crap going down!! and vince made the show! admit it, feuding with the boss, and stone cold V vince steel cage valentine ppv captured my love for wrestling, having your boss's ass and handing it to him is great and hence forth thats why i loved wwf i suppose, 2000 was the start of the diluted product, when vince and steph in 03 or something happened, was the last of the intense mc-mahon heat and intensity of the wwe left, alongside the ever lovably zack gowen, rookie v boss, nothing like this now adays so thats why im out of wwe universe now..... |
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Post by cordless2016 on Dec 17, 2010 21:29:42 GMT -5
I'd say from 00 to 04, was good. But around 05 is when they started losing alot of the older fanbase. Older wrestlers were doing nothing interesting, young wrestlers were pretty boring as well. and now, everything is like a giant scoop of vanilla ice cream. this, this is my feeling exact! with the death of wcw/ecw came the death of wwf (obv cause of the wwf) and then the wwe as it began...... attitude era really built up wrestling as a tv product, then just this 2000 decade went down hill so much, i loved the RAW (punn intended) feel of the wwf 2003 and previous, last good thing i know of from the later was jbl big show barbed cage 04, and cena jbl i quit 05, last attitude and ecw styled wrestling i feel i got from the wwe i since then around 06 i toned out completely and tna is now my fix of current afairs.... i just love attitude so much for what it was tv and now the wwe isnt what i expect from wrestling, i loved the drama and hardcore wwf with all the poop going down!! and vince made the show! admit it, feuding with the boss, and stone cold V vince steel cage valentine ppv captured my love for wrestling, having your boss's ass and handing it to him is great and hence forth thats why i loved wwf i suppose, 2000 was the start of the diluted product, when vince and steph in 03 or something happened, was the last of the intense mc-mahon heat and intensity of the wwe left, alongside the ever lovably zack gowen, rookie v boss, nothing like this now adays so thats why im out of wwe universe now..... I agree about the McMahon thing. While I wasn't a fan of all 4 McMahon's dominating some episodes of Raw and SmackDown, Vince was always entertaining as hell to watch. He played the "Evil Boss" role literaly perfect. He was great in 2000, and I loved him during December of 2000 when he was desperatly trying to stop his stars from competing in the Hell in a Cell. It was hilarious to see him come out during the match in a huge truck to try and tear the cage apart, only to have Foley chase him off. |
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Dec 17, 2010 21:31:54 GMT -5
In 2000, I'd started to get bored of The Rock. But I loved Crash Holly, Kurt Angle, Edge & Christian, Commissioner Foley. I wish I'd appreciated the APA more at the time, too. I think 2000 may have been the best year all-round that the WWF/E ever had.
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Post by Lewscher on Dec 17, 2010 21:34:36 GMT -5
and then have undytaker push, sorry chokeslam  rikishi off it into said truck vince had the pssion and direction for the show as a whole, now i dont see that anymore, 2000 its-self i couldt speculate on specifically, i started late 2002, but watched ALOT! of attitude ppv's, never really a whole show.... however im knowlegeable as hel on attitude era lol...... anyway deviate much, 2000 was rather good i must say...... want details ill have to review the ppv cards >.<  and yeah vince = god! hence why he has his own religion... except the later wwe 06? feud with DX was so not the same, was just hhh and hbk having fun at vinces expense  just comedy not like full on attitude! (punn intended) |
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Post by Barrett on Dec 17, 2010 21:48:30 GMT -5
I never cared for 2000. I was a diehard Austin mark so that year just felt weird to me not having him around. The same goes for the last few months of 1999 as well. And then when he did come back, I didn't care for the way they used him. Sure, there were some moments here and there I could pick out as being entertaining (Jericho's brief title win sticks out, as do the E&C shenanigans), but overall I wasn't thrilled with wrestling at the time and I almost never go back and watch any matches from that year. Now that I think back on it, had Stone Cold retired when he got injured in '99, I may have actually stopped watching all together. It was the anticipation of his return that kept my interest going during his absence.
I think the thing I hated most about 2000 was how, especially during Foley's run as Commissioner, almost every single show had some sort tag team main event. Every goddamn week it was the same set up over and over again. The only thing that changed was whether it was a standard tag, six man tag, or eight man tag match.
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Post by rossfan on Dec 17, 2010 22:11:05 GMT -5
i didn't like 2000, they fed the radicals to HHH and then made the radicals HHHs bitch
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Post by MichaelTheMartian on Dec 17, 2010 22:22:27 GMT -5
2006 was the best of the decade for me, ECW at the start was great, RVD finally wining the big one, Edge vs Cena, Booker T finally wins the big one and get's his main event spot, Jeff Hardy returns, near the end of the year, Hardys & MNM reunite, the great tag team fatal four way ladder match at Armageddon, where Mercury broke his nose.
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Post by RedwineRaider on Dec 17, 2010 22:42:16 GMT -5
2000-2005. I haven't hardly watched or cared for anything since then, save for a few exceptions. (Flair/Edge, Flair's retirement, etc.)
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Dec 17, 2010 22:59:40 GMT -5
2000 has to be one of the best years the WWE had. With Austin out of the picture in the beginning of the year allowed Triple H and The Rock to really shine. Had Austin not gotten his neck surgery, we wouldn't have seen Cactus Jack vs. Triple H at the Royal Rumble. After watching the Cactus Jack/Triple H match yesterday, that is the match the made Triple H a legit main-eventer in the eyes of many. I remember being very stoked to see the Rumbe that year (holding it at MSG was an excellent choice) to see the WWE debut of Tazz and the WWE Championship match. Not to mention, the entry way for the '00 Rumble was awesome.
After the Rumble, we saw the debut of Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit, Dean Malenko, and Perry Saturn. This made the product fresh. The WWE got a lot out of Benoit and Guerrero early on. Benoit captured the Intercontinental Championship at WrestleMania XVI as well as Guerrero winning the European Championship the night after 'Mania XVI. The debut of The Radicalz made things interesting. We saw matches that we'd thought we would never see (namely Benoit vs. Angle). No Way Out came and went. Who could forget the Cactus Jack/Triple H HIAC match? Not to mention, it was the first Hell In A Cell match contested for the WWE Title.
Fast foward to WrestleMania XVI. One of the more unusual 'Mania's in history. We saw Triple H being the first heel to emerge from a WrestleMania as the WWE Champion. The All-Day Long special before the PPV was sweet. After watching it again in 2008, it really shows that WrestleMania came a long way since 1985. I personally thought the two matches that saved 'Mania XVI from being one of the worse was the Two-Fall Triple Threat and the first Tag Team Triangle Ladder match.
Then we had Backlash which featured The Rock and Triple H in the main event. I saw a video recently of Linda McMahon announcing that Steve Austin was going to be in The Rock's corner. Man did the crowd go apecrap for that or what. Before Backlash took place, we saw Chris Jericho "capture" the WWE Title from Triple H. The decision was later reversed. At Backlash we saw The Rock capture his fourth WWE Championship from Triple H.
Yet again, we saw Triple H and The Rock in a 60-minute Iron Man Match for the WWE Championship. Personally, I disliked this match because of all the nonsense that went on and the finish. A month later, we saw a 6-man Tag Team match for the WWE Title. We all know the outcome of that match. Notwithstanding, we saw Kurt Angle become the King of the Ring. The night after the King of The Ring, we had to sit through Vince McMahon's genetic jackhammer speech.
Now we had Fully Loaded. One of the better PPV's that year. If you haven't seen it, I would recommend watching it. We witnessed a triple main event. We had 'Taker vs. Angle. Good but not as good as the match they had on SmackDown in 2003. Triple H vs. Chris Jericho in the first Last Man Standing match that had a decisive winner. Excellent match that made both Jericho and Trips look good despite Trips going over. The Rock vs. Benoit was meh.
SummerSlam 2000 was an excellent PPV. One of my favorite SummerSlam PPV's. Shane McMahon's bump at the end of the Hardcore title match was awesome. The first TLC match was a great match but I prefer TLC II at WrestleMaina X-Seven better. Who could forget about Kurt Angle's concussion whne Triple H pedigreed Angle through the announce table?
September was an important month as RAW was switching over from USA Network to TNN (now Spike). We saw Austin's long awaited return at Unforgiven. Meanwhile, Austin was searching for who ran him over at the '99 Survivor Series. Unforgiven 2000 was a fun show to watch. The only match worth seeing is Edge & Christian vs. The Hardyz in a cage.
Then October came and we saw Kurt Angle capture his first WWE Championship at No Mercy. I remember being stoked when Kurt won the title. Watching this PPV was a good way to end my birthday. Before o Mercy took place, Rikishi revealed he was the man who ran over Austin and Triple H was the accomplice.
The Survivor Series was okay. We saw Triple H and Austin in the main event. Nothing is worth talking about that PPV. Finally, at Armageddon, we witnessed a 6-man Hell In A Cell match for the WWE Championship. I hate this match due to the blood looking fake and seeing Rikishi taking that bump on to the hay. Not to mention, McMahon was trying to prevent this match from happening.
In the end, I enjoyed 2000 because it offered something vastly different from what we saw in 1999. Thumbs up for 2000.
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