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Post by JCF on Dec 27, 2010 19:26:22 GMT -5
So, I've between the holidays and weather, I've had time to just stay home and relax. Clean, catch up on my DVD's, etc.
So I watched all of Wrestlemania 25 and all of Summerslam 2010. I have to say, WM 25 wasn't all that bad. If I remember right this PPV got some hate. The MITB match was really good. The spots were some of the best. Diva's Battle Royal was bleh. JBL vs. Rey was short. Oh well. Matt vs. Jeff was really good. Jericho vs. Legends was alright. Nothing all that special but Steamboat kicked some ass. Some sick spots. Edge vs. Cena vs. Big Show worked. These three guys actually put on a really fun match. The mid-air Edge/Cena spear was damn cool. The spear through the guardrail was sick! We all know HBK vs. Undertaker was classic. Triple H vs. Orton.. it wasn't really what it was supposed to be, but it was decent for what it was. Can't really complain though to this day I still say Orton needed the win. And for the DVD/Blu-Ray bonus, the Unified Tag Titles match was really well done. Should have been on the card.
So yeah, I can definitely say I actually thought this was a good show after not really liking it the first time around. Anyone else?
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Dec 27, 2010 19:52:40 GMT -5
Nope. The last 2 WMs have been MAJOR let downs. HBK/UT is massively over rated, especially the 2nd one. The MITB have been subpar. The cards seem to have a cheese factor to them as well.
To me WM is supposed to be the big dance the SB. And yet the last 2 have ranked as one of lesser ppvs of each year.
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Post by kidanimation09 on Dec 27, 2010 19:53:11 GMT -5
What the Unified Tag match was a dark match?
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Post by Jimmy on Dec 27, 2010 19:54:22 GMT -5
What the Unified Tag match was a dark match? MizOrrison vs. The Colons
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Post by LA Times on Dec 27, 2010 20:14:16 GMT -5
It was promoted as the 25th Anniversary of Wrestlemania (even though WM26 was the real 25th Anniversary). Other than HBK/Undertaker, what the WWE put out was nothing close to what they were promoting.
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Post by rudos on Dec 27, 2010 20:41:04 GMT -5
Nope. The last 2 WMs have been MAJOR let downs. HBK/UT is massively over rated, especially the 2nd one. The MITB have been subpar. The cards seem to have a cheese factor to them as well. To me WM is supposed to be the big dance the SB. And yet the last 2 have ranked as one of lesser ppvs of each year. Yep. I have to agree with everything CM said. The last WM I really enjoyed was 21.
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Post by BV on Dec 27, 2010 20:42:05 GMT -5
Nope. The last 2 WMs have been MAJOR let downs. HBK/UT is massively over rated, especially the 2nd one. The MITB have been subpar. The cards seem to have a cheese factor to them as well. To me WM is supposed to be the big dance the SB. And yet the last 2 have ranked as one of lesser ppvs of each year. Yep. I have to agree with everything CM said. The last WM I really enjoyed was 21. WM 24 was actually pretty good, last good one for me.
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Post by Eat Defeat. on Dec 27, 2010 20:45:31 GMT -5
I believe WM25 got heat due to not dedicating more time to younger stars, putting a pointless diva match and mini Kid Rock concert over a history making Tag Team match amongst other things. I got the dvd last Christmas and enjoyed it, but I'm certainly glad I didn't pay full price for it live.
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Post by BØRNS on Dec 27, 2010 20:57:53 GMT -5
I still think it could have been a whole lot better. Of course, when we were watching it on PPV, I think many of us were just so excited that it was WrestleMania and #25 at that. Well, it was so-so, but Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels was WrestleMania 25. Even Vince McMahon said he regrets not making that match the main event.
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Post by Rule 30 on Dec 27, 2010 21:28:46 GMT -5
MITB - Enjoyable match, finish was sorta lame though Diva Battle Royal- Ugh JBL/Mysterio- Short, Fun moment, JBL left kinda lamely though Jericho/Legends- Good match for Steamboat/Jericho Matt/Jeff- Good match, very enjoyable with a good story behind it. Laughed at Jeff putting himself through the table like a face, ending looked painful Triple Threat- Fun match, double AA was a nice WM moment HBK/Undertaker- Sucked, boring, waste of time Orton/HHH- Fine match, HBK/Taker should have main evented though, no doubt. Dark match- I thought it was a good match. So yeah, I thought it was an enjoyable event, the IWC just expects to much and won't settle for anything less.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2010 23:43:19 GMT -5
MITB - Enjoyable match, finish was sorta lame though Diva Battle Royal- Ugh JBL/Mysterio- Short, Fun moment, JBL left kinda lamely though Jericho/Legends- Good match for Steamboat/Jericho Matt/Jeff- Good match, very enjoyable with a good story behind it. Laughed at Jeff putting himself through the table like a face, ending looked painful Triple Threat- Fun match, double AA was a nice WM moment HBK/Undertaker- Sucked, boring, waste of time
Orton/HHH- Fine match, HBK/Taker should have main evented though, no doubt. Dark match- I thought it was a good match. So yeah, I thought it was an enjoyable event, the IWC just expects to much and won't settle for anything less. I don't quite understand what you're trying to say.
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Post by Sonnen on Dec 27, 2010 23:53:26 GMT -5
Nope. The last 2 WMs have been MAJOR let downs. HBK/UT is massively over rated, especially the 2nd one. The MITB have been subpar. The cards seem to have a cheese factor to them as well. To me WM is supposed to be the big dance the SB. And yet the last 2 have ranked as one of lesser ppvs of each year. Yep. I have to agree with everything CM said. The last WM I really enjoyed was 21. I disagree with your agreement. But I agree with your choice of last enjoyed Mania.
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Post by Mr. Orange on Dec 28, 2010 0:00:30 GMT -5
MITB - Enjoyable match, finish was sorta lame though Diva Battle Royal- Ugh JBL/Mysterio- Short, Fun moment, JBL left kinda lamely though Jericho/Legends- Good match for Steamboat/Jericho Matt/Jeff- Good match, very enjoyable with a good story behind it. Laughed at Jeff putting himself through the table like a face, ending looked painful Triple Threat- Fun match, double AA was a nice WM moment HBK/Undertaker- Sucked, boring, waste of time
Orton/HHH- Fine match, HBK/Taker should have main evented though, no doubt. Dark match- I thought it was a good match. So yeah, I thought it was an enjoyable event, the IWC just expects to much and won't settle for anything less. I don't quite understand what you're trying to say. I believe it was sarcasm. Anyway, it was a dreadful show but it had its moments. Austin's celbration, Punks Money in te Bank win, Steamboats performance and of course HBK/Taker saved it. If Orton had won the main event, it would be regarded better, as Orton was soooooo ready to have the belt.
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Post by Barrett on Dec 28, 2010 2:07:16 GMT -5
Honestly, I was offended that they dropped the ball so badly on this show. I hate that I actually felt that way about a wrestling event, but it's true. It felt like a slap in the face. -Kid Rock was given 15 ing minutes to perform. Week in and week out how many superstars aren't even allotted 15 minutes for their matches? -As an extension of that, all of the Divas were brought out during one of his songs and then the Battle Royal was promptly started as soon as it ended. You couldn't even tell who was in the damn match! I'm not even a big fan of divas matches, but this should have been treated like the Gimmick Battle where each participant got their own, albeit brief introduction. Or even like the pre-show battle royals where everyone comes out at once but each person gets their own announcement. And then there was Santina. I really did like Santino up until that point, but I haven't cared for him since. -I don't remember anything about the MITB match being particularly bad, but I would probably rank it right above WM22 as being the second most forgettable MITB match yet. At the time, I wasn't pleased that Punk won for the second year in a row, but hindsight is 20/20 and that was, by far, the right decision to make. -The Jericho/Legends match wound up being better than any of us expected due thanks to Steamboat pleasantly surprising us, but I still get the gist that this was plan D for them after Jericho/Rourke, Jericho/Austin, Jericho/Hogan all failed to come to fruition. I could be wrong as that was most likely wishful thinking and fanboy speculation on my part. -I don't remember being all that fond of Hardy/Hardy, but I hated that feud so perhaps I was biased. I was glad that Matt won, though. Too bad it was the last noteable thing he did. -I had no problem with Mysterio/JBL as I had no desire to see them wrestle anything longer than five or six minutes. -Undertaker/Shawn Michaels was a classic, but honestly I have never revisited this one due to the sour taste the rest of the show left in my mouth. -The Triple Threat wasn't bad at all. It was surprisingly good, though I don't know if it was quite Wrestlemania quality. Still, I feel I should give it some credit. -I'm a HUGE Stone Cold mark and have been since day 1, but I was irked that he was given so much time for a pointless beer bash. Had Kid Rock not eaten up so much time and had the tag title match not been bumped off the show, I probably wouldn't have had any problem with this. -I repeat: THE TAG TITLE MATCH WAS BUMPED OFF THE SHOW! This was my third most anticipated match (behind 'Taker/HBK and HHH/Orton) and it was bumped off at the last minute. Like I said with the Divas, I'm not even a huge fan of tag wrestling, but I was stoked for this match. Miz/Morrison had become my favorite team in years. I don't think I'd been that fond of a tag team since New Age Outlaws (excluding thrown together main eventer teams like The Two Man Power Trip and Rated RKO). -Orton/HHH. Oh God. I don't want to blame it all on the two of them. The biggest problem was that damn DQ stipulation. The build up to this match was awesome. I hadn't been this psyched for a WM main event since Austin/Rock at WM17. Prior to the event, I believed whole-heartedly that this deserved the main event spot - yes, even over HBK/'Taker which I'd been drooling for ever since their cocktease in the 2007 Royal Rumble. I felt that going on any lower than last would diminish what these two had worked so hard to achieve over that previous month. They should have been at eachother's throats from the get go. This should have been an all out, no holds barred brawl with maybe a little McMahon/Legacy interference strictly to add another layer of storyline climax. But no. They added that damn DQ stipulation and Orton/HHH's hands were tied. After weeks of personal attacks, they were forced to have a standard wrestling match. So, like I said, I really don't want to put all the blame on Triple H or Randy Orton. But they sure as hell do deserve some of it. Even with all that being as it was, these two should have stepped up their game. There is no excuse why either of these two couldn't have brought 120%. They're both the kind of men who eat, sleep, and breathe the wrestling business and would be completely lost without it. But neither man brought their A-game. And the match was a bore. I actually did go back and watch this a few months ago. The match wasn't as much of an abortion as I had originally declared, but it wasn't anything special, and it sure wasn't anything Wrestlemania-worthy. Let alone that last spot on the card which I'd been hoping to see them get. And the next night on Raw, what did they decide this feud needed? Dave ing Batista. I swear, I came this close to giving up on wrestling at about this point in time. But I've been watching since '97 and I just couldn't bear to give it all up due to one awful show. I promise I'm usually one of the most positive members around these parts. And it really doesn't take much for the WWE to entertain me. However, this is one event that just grinds my gears to seemingly no end and a whole can of worms is opened every time it is brought up.
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Post by King Silva on Dec 28, 2010 3:23:48 GMT -5
Nope. That WM sucks imo. Sure there were one or two good matches but most of it was crappy especially considering it was the 25th Anniversary.. Suck a letdown as was Wm 26. I really want WM 27 to be great but I doubt it!
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Post by Edge618 on Dec 28, 2010 4:58:29 GMT -5
HHH ruined this PPV. If Orton closed the show with the belt in a better match, people would drool all over this WM. It was ridiculous HHH closed the show with the belt in a match like they had, when the feud and build was so good and Orton was so groomed to take the title and get his WM moment. Then Orton wins the title in a forgettable 6-man tag clusterf*** a month later? Makes looking back at WM25 even worse. Tag match was great, Jericho/Legends was great, Hardy vs Hardy was acceptable and did what it needed, MITB was unpredictable, Rey vs JBL was kind of lame just because they kind of did the same thing with Kane and Chavo the year before. And HBK vs Undertaker was awesome, will go down in anyone's top 5 matches of all time. The whole story around it and the atmosphere that night made the match. Then HHH comes in and ruins it. Typical.
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Post by DgenerationX092 on Dec 28, 2010 5:14:28 GMT -5
Anyone who says Taker/HBK was overrated needs a limb removed by a shark.
I wasnt that impressed with the Triple Threat, I hate how to me it seemed Big Show was forced into the match.
Triple H vs. Orton was the match where you have to watch it twice to appreciate it. It had no business main eventing, and it was like a cooldown after HBK/Taker. I couldnt enjoy it live. Watching again on DVD though, theres much less to complain about.
Hardy vs. Hardy was great, though some might say they did even better in the stretcher match the following Smackdown. Ironically it was nice for once to see a feud continue so quickly, since normally its hated by fans when WM isnt the end of a feud.
And Austin's celebration definitely made up for some other bogus moments IMO.
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Post by the hell demon on Dec 28, 2010 8:40:46 GMT -5
Orton should have won.
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Post by cjskittles4 on Dec 28, 2010 10:17:36 GMT -5
Taker and Shawn's first battle was no where near overrated in my eyes...however the retirement match the next year was kind of a blur to me, just wasn't feeling it like I was the year before... But I think HHH/Orton was a massive letdown, all that anger went no where... Overall, the show was okay but if Taker/Shawn never happened...we probably wouldn't be talking about that show
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Post by johnnypoopypants on Dec 28, 2010 11:05:34 GMT -5
The MITB match was really just ok. The spots were some of the worst until the WM 26 match. Diva's Battle Royal shouldn't have even been on an episode of Raw. JBL vs. Rey was not even a match and was basically falsely advertised for anyone who might have wanted to see the match. Oh well. Matt vs. Jeff was really just ok. Jericho vs. Legends was boring and shouldn't have even been on an episode of Raw. Nothing all that special but Steamboat was ok. Some boring spots. Edge vs. Cena vs. Big Show should have come before HBK/Taker. These three guys actually put on a really fun match if it had been at a house show. The mid-air Edge/Cena spear was damn cool except I can't even remember what that was so it must not have been that cool. The spear through the guardrail was an overdone spot that was never even cool to begin with! We all know HBK vs. Undertaker was classic by comparison. Triple H vs. Orton.. it wasn't really what it was supposed to be, ie it was completely terrible. Can really complain though to this day I still say Orton needed the win. And for the DVD/Blu-Ray bonus, the Unified Tag Titles match was better than any match actually on the card.
So yeah, I can definitely say I actually thought this was a terrible show.
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