Barney Stinson
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Post by Barney Stinson on Jun 21, 2011 11:12:09 GMT -5
I don't think it was rigged at all. Was I surprised Mason Ryan was voted in over Sin Cara? Yes and No. You have to remember that everyone doesn't think the same as what you would prefer. There are just as many fans that probably wanted to see Mason Ryan toss around Evan Bourne as there are of people who wanted to see Sin Cara v. Bourne. I know many fans who think the little guys are terrible and prefer to see the big guys. Is it my cup of tea? Not necessarily. But there are people out there who like it.
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Post by the nexus on Jun 21, 2011 11:19:37 GMT -5
the top headline on wwe.com is that the voting had technical problems and was messed up, it says stay tuned for details. who knows if its real or not.
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Post by marino13 on Jun 21, 2011 11:19:50 GMT -5
I don't think it was rigged. Mostly because WWE is promoting Cara as this huge international star. So it makes him look bad that he didn't get many votes. Maybe in this case they should have rigged it? I was under the impression that a large portion of the voting audience must have simply decided to go against what WWE probably wanted them to do. I know that's an unlikely reasoning, but so many of the winners seemed weird to me. (Many of the voting options were pretty weird too. For example, since when is there a No Countout Match? Why would fans vote for the main event to be a standard match? Why was No DQ listed as an option for the triple threat when triple threats are already No DQ by default? What the hell were the plans for the Paper Bag Match?) -WWE probably assumed Sin Cara would face Bourne; fans choose Mason Ryan -WWE probably assumed the fans wouldn't want Vickie anywhere near ringside; fans choose for 2/3 falls -WWE probably assumed that fans would go for either Bodyslam Challenge or Over the Top Rope Challenge; fans went with Arm Wrestling Contest -WWE probably assumed fans would vote for Booker to compete against Vickie since he's known for his spinarooni and since he'd be a face going against the heel; fans voted for Michael Cole in what was probably the first ever heel vs. heel dance off That's exactly what I think happened. I think WWE tried to influence the votes, but the crowd went in a whole different direction. And if that's the case that can't be good news for Sin Cara's push.
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cyantist
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Joined on: May 9, 2010 6:47:56 GMT -5
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Post by cyantist on Jun 21, 2011 11:27:24 GMT -5
A falls count anywhere match... That didn't leave the ring.
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Post by wyleecyotee on Jun 21, 2011 11:32:53 GMT -5
the top headline on wwe.com is that the voting had technical problems and was messed up, it says stay tuned for details. who knows if its real or not. Well thats interesting, wonder what they will do because of this.
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Post by RSCTom on Jun 21, 2011 11:36:23 GMT -5
It seems kind of simple to me.
I think in a promotion where the writing team and ownership are constantly pushing a clearcut, right down the middle "good vs. evil" style "superhero vs. supervillain" match up it's completely and totally possible Evan Bourne was voted to face a "bad guy."
Could the votes have been rigged? Sure, that's probably more likely. But no one should be surprised on a night that John Cena and Randy Orton stood in a ring together holding their titles up and making every 5-9 year old's night that those same kids wouldn't want to see Evan Bourne "overcome the odds."
How many of those same kids would want to watch Batman and Superman fight against each other instead of fighting against Joker or Doomsday?
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jun 21, 2011 11:40:23 GMT -5
It was obviously rigged.....nobody would vote for Mason Ryan to face Bourne over Sin Cara.
The entire thing was rigged, as I assumed it would be the second it was announced.
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Post by J12 on Jun 21, 2011 11:44:55 GMT -5
If it wasn't rigged, then I can't believe more people voted for that idiot Kelly Kelly than Beth Phoenix. Plus the fact that Kelly Kelly actually won, really leads me to believe it was really rigged. I'm telling you, this whole thing was just a setup by the WWE to get people's phone numbers. Am I really the only one that sees this? Of the all the strange anomalies that occurred with last night's voting, you chose the one that made perfect sense to back up your argument? Kelly Kelly didn't need any rigging to win that vote. She would have won, hands down, rigged or not rigged, and WWE knew that. She's the most over diva in the company, bar none. No one else even comes close. It was blatantly obvious and WWE saw that, and a capitalized on the opportunity by setting her up to win the belt.
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Post by juicewinslow on Jun 21, 2011 11:52:13 GMT -5
from WWE.com
"WWE apologizes to the WWE Universe, Raw's "Power to the People" voters, and especially Sin Cara and Evan Bourne. The match vote was skewed by a heavy backlog of votes from the Divas Title Match. More details on WWE.com throughout the day."
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Post by wabarrett on Jun 21, 2011 11:55:17 GMT -5
from WWE.com "WWE apologizes to the WWE Universe, Raw's "Power to the People" voters, and especially Sin Cara and Evan Bourne. The match vote was skewed by a heavy backlog of votes from the Divas Title Match. More details on WWE.com throughout the day." Ahahaha! I knew something was up.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jun 21, 2011 12:01:59 GMT -5
"backlog of votes from the Divas match" ?? HAHHA yeah like anybody believes that a lot of people would actually vote for the Divas match? And if it was actually a backlog of votes from the Divas match, Sin Cara would have won anyway because he was C and those people voting for the Divas title match were hitting C for Beth Phoenix, not B for Kelly Kelly! No way anybody wanted to see Kelly Kelly as Divas Champion over Beth! This is WWE trying to make an excuse because everyone knows the damn thing was rigged. Just a waste of money on TXT message charges for anybody stupid enough to actually vote.
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Post by the franchise on Jun 21, 2011 12:04:19 GMT -5
Maybe people just really like Mason Ryan.
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Post by sean™ on Jun 21, 2011 12:06:28 GMT -5
A falls count anywhere match... That didn't leave the ring. You might want to let CM Punk, Alberto Del Rio, and Rey Mysterio know that, you know since all 3 of them left the ring on numerous occasions. Perhaps Mysterio's Senton flip from the top rope onto Punk, into a dive to the outside onto Alberto rings a bell. Or maybe it's CM Punk's flipping powerbomb over the top rope to Alberto, where he tried to pin him afterwards that will help you remember. I know it was so long ago.....
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Post by J12 on Jun 21, 2011 12:07:27 GMT -5
"backlog of votes from the Divas match" ?? HAHHA yeah like anybody believes that a lot of people would actually vote for the Divas match? And if it was actually a backlog of votes from the Divas match, Sin Cara would have won anyway because he was C and those people voting for the Divas title match were hitting C for Beth Phoenix, not B for Kelly Kelly! No way anybody wanted to see Kelly Kelly as Divas Champion over Beth! This is WWE trying to make an excuse because everyone knows the damn thing was rigged. Just a waste of money on TXT message charges for anybody stupid enough to actually vote. To think, even for a second, that Beth Phoenix is more popular than Kelly Kelly anywhere other than the internet would be misguided and incredibly biased. Kelly is the most over diva in the company right now. The general audience couldn't care less about Beth Phoenix. Add to that the fact that the Diva's match was the first contest of the night, making it the first thing the fans could vote on, and you've got an incredibly plausible set of reasons as to why there was a backlog of votes. A larger number of people may have just voted that once and not come back, and WWE may not have been prepared for the number of votes they received.
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Post by sean™ on Jun 21, 2011 12:09:42 GMT -5
Unless you haven't been to a live event in the last.....oh I don't know, 3 years.......you'd be able to tell for a fact that Kelly Kelly is one of the bigger divas right now. Only Divas that got a better reaction than her at the last 3 shows I've been to were Lay-Cool or Kharma.
She legit won that, and should have. Beth as a face is boring.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jun 21, 2011 12:12:33 GMT -5
None of Kelly Kelly's fans are old enough to use a cell phone.
Real fans of women's wrestling want to see matches involving Natalya and Beth Phoenix, who can actually WRESTLE.
Yes, Kelly Kelly has improved....but she shouldn't be Divas Champion. Any reaction she gets from the fans is due to her looks.
Trust me,....if we could ever find out the REAL votes, I would bet anything that Beth Phoenix won by a landslide.
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Post by juicewinslow on Jun 21, 2011 12:18:12 GMT -5
I voted for Kelly Kelly.
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Post by J12 on Jun 21, 2011 12:21:15 GMT -5
None of Kelly Kelly's fans are old enough to use a cell phone. Real fans of women's wrestling want to see matches involving Natalya and Beth Phoenix, who can actually WRESTLE. Yes, Kelly Kelly has improved....but she shouldn't be Divas Champion. Any reaction she gets from the fans is due to her looks. Trust me,....if we could ever find out the REAL votes, I would bet anything that Beth Phoenix won by a landslide. And I would bet anything that you're completely, and totally wrong. You're simply ignoring the facts. Kelly Kelly is more over than Beth Phoenix. That is irrefutable. It is a fact. Listen to the crowd. Talent has absolutely nothing to do with this, nothing. The general viewing audience enjoys Kelly Kelly more than Beth Phoenix, as evidenced by the fact that Kelly is on TV every week, generating a positive reaction, and Beth is not. Is that reaction due to her looks? Probably. But those reactions turned into votes last night. Do you actually think the viewing audience sat there and thought, "oh man, Kelly is hot, but I better vote for Beth because she can wrestle." That's asinine. People don't give a crap about divas wrestling and they never have. And even in the world you seem to think exists, where people want to see good women's wrestling matches, would it have mattered who was chosen anyway? No matter who won, they were going out to face a Bella twin, neither of whom can wrestle their way out of a paper bag. I'm sorry that you're not willing to come to terms with the fact that Kelly Kelly is the top diva in the company right now.
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Post by sean™ on Jun 21, 2011 12:24:05 GMT -5
But that's the problem. The "PEOPLE" that WWE was referring to, was the current fans of the WWE. And with all due respect, the MAJORITY of the current WWE fans.....don't give a crap about women's wrestling.
You are taking your personal opinions and trying to dive a connection between those opinions and those of the core audience. But that's an unfair connection to make, because so much says otherwise.
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Post by wabarrett on Jun 21, 2011 12:29:56 GMT -5
"backlog of votes from the Divas match" ?? HAHHA yeah like anybody believes that a lot of people would actually vote for the Divas match? And if it was actually a backlog of votes from the Divas match, Sin Cara would have won anyway because he was C and those people voting for the Divas title match were hitting C for Beth Phoenix, not B for Kelly Kelly! No way anybody wanted to see Kelly Kelly as Divas Champion over Beth!This is WWE trying to make an excuse because everyone knows the damn thing was rigged. Just a waste of money on TXT message charges for anybody stupid enough to actually vote. You're being stupid. Oh, and J12's last post sums it up perfectly.
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