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Post by ICW on Jul 27, 2011 23:33:01 GMT -5
*The following post contains MAJOR spoilers for the novel Indistinguishable From Magic. SPOILERS: I know there are some Star Trek fans on this forum (though not many) that may at least find this interesting and want to know what's the latest in the 24th century. Quite a bit has happend and if you want to know more about what the crews of TNG/Voyager/DS9 are up to, hit me up via PM. Keep in mind, the novels are NOT cannon to the Star Trek universe. HOWEVER, it IS accepted by fans, authors, and even the higher ups in the production of Star Trek as being "unofficially cannon." Captain Montgomery Scott, the former Cheif Engineer of the Starship Enterprise, was apparently killed off in the novel Indistinguishable From Magic. The majority of the story takes place on the U.S.S. Challenger and the end scene implies that Scotty could not work one last miracle to save himself from the novel's climax. Scotty is the second, major character to be killed off. Admiral Janeway was killed off in the novel [Before Dishonor/i] by the Borg. |
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Jul 27, 2011 23:36:43 GMT -5
I guess he just didn't have the power.
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Post by comintogetcha on Jul 27, 2011 23:39:06 GMT -5
I hate these expanded universe novels. They never amount to more than just some fanboy jerking each other off while writing fan fiction. Remember the Star Wars books and how nutty they would get? And then George Lucas would go back and fourth about which ones were Canon and which ones weren't? What a load of crap.
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Post by ICW on Jul 27, 2011 23:40:41 GMT -5
I hate these expanded universe novels. They never amount to more than just some fanboy jerking each other off while writing fan fiction. Star Wars, maybe. But Star Trek has done an excellent job with their relaunch (their term for Expanded Universe). The Destiny trilogy was FANTASTIC and, if you're a fan of Star Trek, you should run to the book store and buy all three novels. |
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Post by Captain McKay on Jul 28, 2011 7:17:32 GMT -5
Interesting. Reminds me of when they killed Chewbacca in one of those Star Wars books.
I guess it'd be okay if the story took place YEARS after the character's worth had expired. Like Chewie's death was something like 30 years after Return of the Jedi. I'd imagine Scotty's would be like 30 years after his tenure aboard the Enterprise.
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Post by MacReady on Jul 28, 2011 9:10:55 GMT -5
Nerd fiction is not canon.
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Post by Patrick Bateman on Jul 28, 2011 12:14:41 GMT -5
Nerd fiction is not canon. Yep. "Expanded universe" is another name for fan fiction. |
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Post by T R W on Jul 28, 2011 12:24:44 GMT -5
I could have sworn he was already killed off before in one of the TNG books.
It has been forever since I read them though.
And on the subject of killing Chewbacca, it was a great move and made for a lot of interesting moments, and made the characters "vulnerable" again. The problem can be with these books, that you KNOW they aren't going to kill off the main characters no matter what their situation is. Killing someone like Chewbacca (who at the time was relegated to babysitter duties anyway) makes it feel more dangerous.
I do feel calling the expanded universe books "fan fiction" is a bit harsh. While it is technically not incorrect, these books are approved and read by the creators of the property. It's not exactly the same as the guy who writes a story and puts it on their blog. A lot of the writers are experienced, and credible. In some cases, the stories in the books are BETTER than the movies or tv shows.
There are several of the expanded universe books in Star Wars and Star Trek that are much better experiences than the SW prequels, or some of the ST movies.
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Post by Captain d00m - Mr. 3000 on Jul 28, 2011 15:11:36 GMT -5
I like reading some "expanded universe" books, but I almost never consider them canon.
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Jul 29, 2011 4:49:51 GMT -5
 This is the best Star Trek book ever. It also includes Wizard of Oz  |
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Post by Boy Wonder on Jul 29, 2011 9:15:19 GMT -5
Ok, knowing very little about the "expanded universe" aspect of Star Trek, why is Scotty featured in a Next Generation novel?
It had to happen eventually anyways. This way he can be replaced by Welshy.
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Post by T R W on Jul 29, 2011 10:38:22 GMT -5
Well, he was in the TNG tv show, something about trapping himself inside a transporter loop or something, which preserved him at his (then) current age. So he joined that timeline.
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Post by ICW on Jul 29, 2011 18:07:34 GMT -5
Well, he was in the TNG tv show, something about trapping himself inside a transporter loop or something, which preserved him at his (then) current age. So he joined that timeline. Correct. After the TNG episode "Rellics", the novels have Scotty become Starfleet's leader in their Corps of Engineers. |
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