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Post by sean™ on Sept 9, 2011 14:00:24 GMT -5
Not sure how many of you have picked up the new Orton DVD, which is great by the way, but I have an interesting question.
In the evolution of Orton, who was more responsible for making Orton credible? Maybe a better way of asking it would be who gave the biggest rub?
I know most will probably side with HHH for obvious reasons. He brought him into Evolution, was his first big feud for the title both World Heavyweight and WWE, headlined Wrestlemania including a months long story before that.
On another hand, I personally point to Mick Foley as a guy that made Orton not just look credible, but really did make him look like "the future". Their hardcore match was really a defining moment for Orton, and the win gave him a big boost.
And then we have the Undertaker, who more or less saved Orton from a failed face turn and lead him directly into a months long feud, a match at both WM and Summerslam, a Hell in a Cell match, and pushed him to the heights of a World Title match at Wrestlemania.
For my money, it's Foley but that's just me.
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Post by Rule 30 on Sept 9, 2011 14:15:21 GMT -5
I'd go with Taker, if Orton didn't end up feuding with him, I doubt he wouldn't have gotten as big as he has today. It really saved him.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2011 14:16:58 GMT -5
Mick Foley, imo. The hardcore match at Backlash 2004 is still among one of my favorite matches
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Post by @PaulGriffin on Sept 9, 2011 14:17:38 GMT -5
I'd say he himself is responsible for it. The entire DVD talked about through all his mistakes, he got away with it for being so talented. He lucked out because when they brought him in they were in a desperate time to build new stars.
Mick Foley put him over huge when he was a midcarder. Triple H didnt do much for Orton in the terms of matches. Undertaker's feud was relatively forgettable. I'd say it's Orton and right place, right time.
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Post by LtD73 on Sept 9, 2011 14:22:26 GMT -5
Foley BY FAR.
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Post by The Sexy Psychotic on Sept 9, 2011 14:32:32 GMT -5
Probably Foley, without him I don't really see what Orton could have done, maybe a bigger fued with RVD but Foley made him a real threat, made him look credible.
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Post by White Trash Lucha on Sept 9, 2011 14:35:11 GMT -5
I'd go with Taker, if Orton didn't end up feuding with him, I doubt he wouldn't have gotten as big as he has today. It really saved him. If Orton never had his feud with Foley, I don't think he would've feuded with Taker. His feud with Foley really made him seem more credible. |
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Post by Sleeping Like An Angel on Sept 9, 2011 14:51:51 GMT -5
Foley put Orton over HUGE.
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Post by gunfreak on Sept 9, 2011 15:54:53 GMT -5
Randy himself is first imo. He went through hell(of course alot buy his own faults) but the timing for him(and Cena too) when they both were called up pretty much at the same time was perfect.
If he wasnt so talented at the start he might nor be where he is today but after seeing the great DVD of him Id have to go w/HHH. He was the first to get him the rub of being w/ him and Flair and if he wasnt in Evolution first he probably wouldnt have even got the shots w/ Foley and Taker in the first place.
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Post by vivalaraza1331 on Sept 9, 2011 15:58:46 GMT -5
Foley put Orton over, undoubtedly. But Triple H and Ric Flair are most responsible for Orton's success. According to most, they legitimately hand-picked Orton and Batista to make-up Evolution. Without Trips and Ric going to bat for Orton, he may not have achieved success as quickly has he had. With that said, Randy should be applauded for bettering himself and becoming the most consistently great in-ring performer in the company.
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Post by King Silva on Sept 9, 2011 16:56:24 GMT -5
I voted 'Other' because I feel it was his own hard work the most.
HHH helped with Evolution because surely he could have choose who was in it instead of Orton but he picked Orton.
And Foley's feud with Orton was great and very memorable.
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Post by marino13 on Sept 9, 2011 18:36:40 GMT -5
Gotta go with Triple H on this. Foley is a close second, but Hunter bought Orton into Main Event status.
On a side note: I love the idea of this poll and hope to see more in the future.
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Post by No Brokeback on Sept 9, 2011 19:41:36 GMT -5
Easily Foley. I didn't give a rats ass about Orton until their match at (I think) Backlash.
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Sept 9, 2011 20:16:41 GMT -5
I picked other because I'd say Orton is responsible for his own rise to the top.
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Post by stonecold316 on Sept 9, 2011 20:19:45 GMT -5
Tie between Foley and 'Taker. I'm going w/ Foley.
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Post by "The Opportunist" Eric Flair on Sept 9, 2011 23:56:46 GMT -5
Orton foremost, for learning from all the greats he's been in the ring with. Outside of that, I'd have to say Triple H and RIC FLAIR. Flair helped mold him back in the Evo days as much as anyone.
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Sept 10, 2011 1:32:52 GMT -5
im gonna say triple h because like you said he recruited him to evolution and have had many feuds with each other
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