TheSecondComing
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Post by TheSecondComing on Sept 26, 2011 17:31:12 GMT -5
I know this has come up many, many times before but... would you count the Diva figures as Basic or Elites?... I have always thought of them as Elites but then why would they be included in the Basic line ups? A few noticeable differences would be that they don't have the double jointed knees or the wrist joint but then they feature other similarities that the Elite collection do have. Also do we think the Legends Miss Elizabeth will have any differences to the 'Basic' Divas or a completely different mold?
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Post by plastictaxicab on Sept 26, 2011 17:35:27 GMT -5
I'm guessing that the Elizabeth will be completely different. The Legends line is elite, so they can't expect someone to pay an elite/legens/online exclusive price for a basic styled figure. But it is a tough call, because like you said, the divas have so many differences.
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Post by cableV on Sept 26, 2011 17:40:22 GMT -5
It will be the same as the others. I wouldn't want it have all the Elite articulation anyway. A double jointed knee on a diva, that isn't wearing knee pads, would probably look horrible.
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Post by GrimKid on Sept 26, 2011 17:58:45 GMT -5
I've always considered the divas as elite also...I just figured MATTEL was worried they wouldn't sell at basic prices so they only include them at 1 per case so they definitely wouldn't sell at elite prices
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Post by plastictaxicab on Sept 26, 2011 18:03:39 GMT -5
It will be the same as the others. I wouldn't want it have all the Elite articulation anyway. A double jointed knee on a diva, that isn't wearing knee pads, would probably look horrible. If you are referring to Elizabeth, she will be wearing a dress, so we won't see the knees anyway. |
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Post by cableV on Sept 26, 2011 18:15:16 GMT -5
It will be the same as the others. I wouldn't want it have all the Elite articulation anyway. A double jointed knee on a diva, that isn't wearing knee pads, would probably look horrible. If you are referring to Elizabeth, she will be wearing a dress, so we won't see the knees anyway. Do you know how long her dress will be? Most of her dresses were above the knee. Being that she is in a dress, why would she need double jointed knees? I don't imagine the majority of the people buying her, plan on having her "wrestle", so why bother with the added articulation if it could potentially make the figure look bad? |
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Post by slinky462 on Sept 26, 2011 18:18:54 GMT -5
It will be the same as the others. I wouldn't want it have all the Elite articulation anyway. A double jointed knee on a diva, that isn't wearing knee pads, would probably look horrible. If you are referring to Elizabeth, she will be wearing a dress, so we won't see the knees anyway. Your elizabeth figure might be wearing a dress but mine wont  |
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Post by Chewdeezy on Sept 26, 2011 18:20:23 GMT -5
It's going to be the same Diva mold but just with a dress is my guess.
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TheSecondComing
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Post by TheSecondComing on Sept 26, 2011 18:29:45 GMT -5
Some good points in this thread, Looking forward to seeing how they make her now...
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Post by JC Motors on Sept 26, 2011 18:47:13 GMT -5
I consider them both. I posted a thread a couple months ago asking the same question.
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Post by Micro on Sept 26, 2011 18:49:36 GMT -5
Divas are their own type of figure, a hybrid between Basic and Elite. I like that they're included in the Basic series because they're cheaper and get a higher chance of being produced that way. We wouldn't have gotten repaints of Beth and Melina if they were in the Elite series. It's nice that the Divas fit in so nicely with the Elite collection, though, since they don't look like regular Basics.
I wonder if Miss Elizabeth will have a newer Elite body for the Legends series. It would make sense so that it justifies the premium price we'll be paying for the Matty Exclusives. Otherwise, we'll pretty much be paying the DM price for a Basic figure. Also, it would allow Mattel to start making Elite Divas. An Elite Elizabeth body could serve as a base for future releases like Flashback Trish, Lita, Sunny, etc.
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Post by dizcoduck on Sept 27, 2011 0:44:23 GMT -5
I've always considered them pretty much Elite. I hope they come up with something different and special for Liz as much as we're going to have to pay for her.
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Post by James St. James on Sept 27, 2011 1:44:03 GMT -5
I don't think they would bother with an entirely new body mold just for the divas that will (potentially) be produced in the legends line. Especially when they can just produce additional parts for the existing body that can be re used in the regular line. I expect Liz to debut bare calves/high heels and I hope the dress is rubber and not fabric. That CS28 Sherri looked like crap and the dress was a mess.
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Post by SteveHulk on Sept 27, 2011 1:57:23 GMT -5
I've always considered them to be more Elite (than Basic)... Mattel might not think they'd sell at the higher Elite price, unless they included a LOAD of accessories as well.
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Post by BellaBaby on Sept 27, 2011 14:57:46 GMT -5
@jamesstjames actually Vickie will be the first girl with heals.
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Post by cableV on Sept 27, 2011 15:59:10 GMT -5
... I expect Liz to debut bare calves/high heels and I hope the dress is rubber and not fabric. That CS28 Sherri looked like crap and the dress was a mess. It's fabric. Confirmed in the last Q&A Plus, if anyone can do a dress a properly, it should be Mattel. I hope they brought in some of the Barbie people to help them out. |
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Post by BellaBaby on Sept 27, 2011 16:02:11 GMT -5
I think mattel (the owner of Barbie) knows how to make a fabric dress
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Post by TheSecondComing on Sept 27, 2011 16:59:05 GMT -5
Love the look of the Vickie Guerrero figure, she looks brilliant. I'm also guessing the Miss Liz will be exactly the same as other divas...
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Post by Rob7274 on Sept 27, 2011 18:41:28 GMT -5
It will be the same as the others. I wouldn't want it have all the Elite articulation anyway. A double jointed knee on a diva, that isn't wearing knee pads, would probably look horrible. Yeah she would need to be the same (basicly) as other Divas but I still would'nt be suprize to get a different mold but it will be in the same style as the other Divas I'd expect. Over all I'd say there both Elites and Basic's |
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Post by ufcwwefanatic on Sept 27, 2011 19:07:20 GMT -5
I'e Always Considered The Divas To Have Both Qualities Of The Basic/Elite Style,I Also Like The Vickie & Can't Wait To See How They Do Liz.
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