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Post by Jaz on Nov 29, 2011 12:53:27 GMT -5
If you guys remember, about six months ago Zack Ryder was very close to being released from the WWE. And back in July C.M Punk was considering leaving the WWE. But now that they both stayed, C.M Punk is arguably the top guy in the WWE and Ryder is one of the top mid carders. What I'm getting to is, what do you guys think it would be like if they had both left?
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Post by wabarrett on Nov 29, 2011 12:56:23 GMT -5
We would have missed out on CM Punk becoming a top star, CM Punk would have missed out on becoming a top star, and Ryder... well I didn't know he was close to being released, six months ago was when his rise in popularity kick started.
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Post by Irish Wrestling Entertainment on Nov 29, 2011 12:59:18 GMT -5
I don't understand how Zack Ryder is one of the top mid-carders? WWE have not put him in a meaningful feud yet. Even if he won the US Championship off of Dolph Ziggler, they still wouldn't have put him over. Character depth, engaging storylines and bringing the best out of each individual's traits is something that makes pro wrestling exciting and unfortunately, WWE have forgotten how to use most of these.
I would, however, agree that Zack Ryder is OVER. But that's because of his own doing.
If they had both left, it would have been like it is now, only worse.
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Post by Jaz on Nov 29, 2011 13:01:35 GMT -5
I don't understand how Zack Ryder is one of the top mid-carders? WWE have not put him in a meaningful feud yet. Even if he won the US Championship off of Dolph Ziggler, they still wouldn't have put him over. Character depth, engaging storylines and bringing the best out of each individual's traits is something that makes pro wrestling exciting and unfortunately, WWE have forgotten how to use most of these. I would, however, agree that Zack Ryder is OVER. But that's because of his own doing. If they had both left, it would have been like it is now, only worse. What I should say, is how he WILL BE one of the top mid carders. Look at how a few months ago he was just on Superstars and you'd never hear about him on another show. Now you see him on Raw almost every week. |
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Post by Irish Wrestling Entertainment on Nov 29, 2011 13:05:25 GMT -5
I don't understand how Zack Ryder is one of the top mid-carders? WWE have not put him in a meaningful feud yet. Even if he won the US Championship off of Dolph Ziggler, they still wouldn't have put him over. Character depth, engaging storylines and bringing the best out of each individual's traits is something that makes pro wrestling exciting and unfortunately, WWE have forgotten how to use most of these. I would, however, agree that Zack Ryder is OVER. But that's because of his own doing. If they had both left, it would have been like it is now, only worse. What I should say, is how he WILL BE one of the top mid carders. Look at how a few months ago he was just on Superstars and you'd never hear about him on another show. Now you see him on Raw almost every week. That I agree with. Zack Ryder has done it all himself.. and now WWE are jumping on the bandwagon. His character is dangerous though - they could easily turn it into a joke character. I think they need to continue to play up the whole 'it's his boyhood dream' thing and maybe give him a meaningful feud with Dolph Ziggler in order to ready Ziggler for Punk at the Rumble.. |
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Post by Jaz on Nov 29, 2011 13:09:17 GMT -5
What I should say, is how he WILL BE one of the top mid carders. Look at how a few months ago he was just on Superstars and you'd never hear about him on another show. Now you see him on Raw almost every week. That I agree with. Zack Ryder has done it all himself.. and now WWE are jumping on the bandwagon. His character is dangerous though - they could easily turn it into a joke character. I think they need to continue to play up the whole 'it's his boyhood dream' thing and maybe give him a meaningful feud with Dolph Ziggler in order to ready Ziggler for Punk at the Rumble.. I agree. If Ryder had never come up with the internet champion and all that, he definitely wouldn't be where he is now. I also think that Ziggler isn't quite ready for a feud with Punk. Him and Jack Swagger becoming tag team champs would probably be good for him right now. |
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Post by MacReady on Nov 29, 2011 13:27:31 GMT -5
Don't ever remember Ryder "being close to being released" where are you getting that from?
I'm not saying your lying about it, maybe I missed that report or something?
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Post by jfinnomore on Nov 29, 2011 14:32:08 GMT -5
Was this thread written by Meltzer?
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Post by ncw on Nov 29, 2011 17:50:35 GMT -5
Don't ever remember Ryder "being close to being released" where are you getting that from? I'm not saying your lying about it, maybe I missed that report or something? Well the WWE never actually said he was going to be released but it looked that way. He was barely used and wasn't doing great on Superstars. |
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Post by Jaz on Nov 29, 2011 17:53:07 GMT -5
Was this thread written by Meltzer? No clue who that is lol. |
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Post by Daniel Bryan Says No on Nov 29, 2011 22:57:00 GMT -5
Was this thread written by Meltzer? No clue who that is lol. The most respected/hated writer/reporter in the industry. |
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Nov 29, 2011 22:59:34 GMT -5
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