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Post by sean™ on Jan 31, 2012 12:41:01 GMT -5
Well, it's officially happening. It's been almost 2 years since their 4 and a half round bout, in which Sonnen almost had the upset of the century. That was until a few well placed short punches lead to one of the most surprising submission in recent UFC history.
Sonnen has earned his way back up the mountain by defeating two promising contenders that were both coming off of big wins and winning streaks. Silva on the other hand has successfully defended his title against a fellow son of Brazil, and then avenged one of his very few losses in front of his home country no less.
And now we have the long awaited, and highly anticipated rematch between the two. The most dominate Middleweight Champion in UFC History vs the most dominate challenger to that title since then. Rumor has it that this bout will be taking place not only in Brazil, but in a soccer stadium no less.
So what's your take. Is Chael going to once again ground and pound his way to becoming the TRUE Undisputed UFC Middleweight Champion? Or will The Spider catch the People's Champ in his web of confusion and send him packing back to Oregon?
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Post by James Hetfield on Jan 31, 2012 16:31:58 GMT -5
Anderson will come more prepared and win in round 2.
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Post by sean™ on Jan 31, 2012 18:11:50 GMT -5
If Chael fights anything like he did in the Bisping fight, I think he's in for a rough night.
Chael spent a lot of time on the fence, or pushing Bisping against the fence. Bisping was constantly getting the better and more powerful strikes in that position, even when he was the one being pressed against the cage.
Silva and Okami spent a good amount of time in the first round of their bout, and Okami had Silva pressed against the cage for most of it. And even then, Silva was landing strikes that were not only more powerful and effective, but even hurt Okami to the point where he stopped pressing and backed off Silva.
Striker. Grappler. Knockout artist. Human Snuggie.
In my opinion, after the performance in his last fight, I don't see any of those stereotypes or the "People's Champion" defeating Silva.
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Post by Fury on Jan 31, 2012 19:04:04 GMT -5
If the Sonnen that shows up against Bisping fights he'll probably lose, but the one against Stann or Silva then we're in for a fight.
I've always said that Silva's one weakness is against wrestling, usually Silva's ground game is good enough that he negates it. Sonnen's a great wrestler but he needs to not be the usual Sonnen on the ground if he wants to win.
Anyway really looking forward to this one and the hype that's going to lead into it.
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Post by 1992 on Jan 31, 2012 19:04:46 GMT -5
Sonnen by UD.
Don't feel like justfying my pick, not because I can't, but simply just because I don't feel like arguing for two-three plus pages about MMA math and breaking down statistics and blah blah blah. Sonnen was my pick the first time and he's my pick this time.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2012 19:49:37 GMT -5
Chael did a good job. He attacked continuously and tried to get Bisping to the ground.
Noone else tried to attack Silva that way. You can see way too much respect in Silvas opponents eyes. They don't dare to attack. They often wait what he's doing and can't get out of this defence mode.
In his first fight agains Silva, Chael was full of self confidence.
And that was a way to his almost victory, too.
He had a BIG chance to defeat Silva. So he will have this big chance again.
Every fighter has a nemesis that is really hard to fight against.
Maybe Chael is Silvas nemesis.
Silva is not the god of mma and sooner or later he will be defeated.
I thought Chael was easy to hit in his fight vs Bisping. Chael did look a little bit sloppy and wobbly. Not too good on his feet.
Silva will be prepared more? Well, Sonnen will be, too.
As long as he's not thinking that Silva will be an easy fight...he can make it.
Just go out there and ground n pound the s-h-i-t out of Silva.
Don't fear this dude.
Silvas second biggest (if not THE biggest) weapon is the respect he gets from his opponents. And he's been faster than some others. That's all.
He does not hit harder than others and he's not a computer.
Chael can make it and i hope he will.
Teach Anderson a lesson, dude.
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Post by demolitionman on Jan 31, 2012 19:51:48 GMT -5
Sonnen by UD. Don't feel like justfying my pick, not because I can't, but simply just because I don't feel like arguing for two-three plus pages about MMA math and breaking down statistics and blah blah blah. Sonnen was my pick the first time and he's my pick this time. I just hope he shows up like he did the first fight and not looking flat like in the Bisping fight... come to think of it.. Mayhem looked pretty flat as well.. I think Dana is drugging Bispings oppenents before he fights... |
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Post by Sonnen on Jan 31, 2012 23:52:22 GMT -5
Depends, if we have the same Chael we did the last time they met, then he'll win by UD.
Otherwise I see Anderson Silva finishing him, and I'm not talking about submission, if he thinks Bisping had hit him hard, Anderson will brutalize him. Eh the smart money is on Silva, but let's see what happens.
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Post by SteveHulk on Feb 1, 2012 5:05:01 GMT -5
There are so many variables going into this fight, who knows what's going to happen? Silva won't have fought for about a year too, which adds to the intrigue. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Sonnen win a UD - but then I wouldn't be surprised to see Silva blitz or submit Sonnen in a couple of rounds either.
I think both guys will come in fully prepared and in great shape... if I had to put money on one though, I'd go with Silva - he'll know exactly what to expect from Sonnen, so is probably working hard on a gameplan to counter it. And going by his fights against Franklin and Okami, he's looked very good in rematches...
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Post by sean™ on Feb 1, 2012 9:46:18 GMT -5
I think two words sum up how I feel the rematch will go:
Broken Rib
I think this will be nothing like the first bout, with Silva being able to keep his distance and get his range while not getting taken down as easily by Sonnen. The injury, in my opinion, is what kept him from getting comfortable in the first fight, plus I think he might have underestimated how forward and aggressive Chael would be.
Once he realized he was going to be on the ground most of the fight is when he seemed to start actually making attempts at a submission.
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Post by demolitionman on Feb 1, 2012 11:07:53 GMT -5
I think two words sum up how I feel the rematch will go: Broken Rib I think this will be nothing like the first bout, with Silva being able to keep his distance and get his range while not getting taken down as easily by Sonnen. The injury, in my opinion, is what kept him from getting comfortable in the first fight, plus I think he might have underestimated how forward and aggressive Chael would be. Once he realized he was going to be on the ground most of the fight is when he seemed to start actually making attempts at a submission. I think the broken rib thing is a crock of crap honestly. From what I understand it was bruised when the match started and broken by the time it was finished. Anderson will have not fought in a year. His back is messed up and his shoulder is still hurting I bet. Let's throw those excuses up as well. I think saying he is hurt demeans the accomplishment of beating him for four and a half rounds. |
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Post by Sonnen on Feb 1, 2012 12:07:57 GMT -5
I think the broken rib was a load of bullcrap.
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Post by sean™ on Feb 1, 2012 13:39:35 GMT -5
I think two words sum up how I feel the rematch will go: Broken Rib I think this will be nothing like the first bout, with Silva being able to keep his distance and get his range while not getting taken down as easily by Sonnen. The injury, in my opinion, is what kept him from getting comfortable in the first fight, plus I think he might have underestimated how forward and aggressive Chael would be. Once he realized he was going to be on the ground most of the fight is when he seemed to start actually making attempts at a submission. I think the broken rib thing is a crock of poop honestly. From what I understand it was bruised when the match started and broken by the time it was finished. Anderson will have not fought in a year. His back is messed up and his shoulder is still hurting I bet. Let's throw those excuses up as well. I think saying he is hurt demeans the accomplishment of beating him for four and a half rounds. Anderson is coming off of surgery. Meaning that he took care of all of his injuries, have rested them, and more than likely will come in with whatever issues that are created in training. Just my take, of course. Crock of **** as you call it or not, I guess we'll never know or agree on. Silva confirmed the injury, his trainer in his corner during the fight confirmed it, his manager confirmed it, Dana confirmed it. Hell, even the documentary that was done on Silva during the lead up to the fight completely confirmed that PRIOR to the fight, he had a rib injury. Also, the X-ray done at the hospital after the fight confirmed it was cracked during the bout. Not sure what additional proof someone would have to give to show he really was suffering from an injury. I don't really care if people disagree or whatever. I've been dealing with that **** since the first fight. All I'm saying is if you have someone who spends a lot of the first round "feeling out" the other fighter for range and timing, then you'd naturally be a little surprised by that fighter coming at you guns blazing when most fighters have not. So I'm sure the first takedown or that overhand right that blasted Silva caught him off guard a great deal. Mix in the fact that once he was on the ground, he wasn't going anywhere which is all due to Chael's control as well as having issues breathing while being punched continually in that injured area. It would make it hard for anyone to first off, get back to standing and then stay off the ground long enough to get some strikes off. I dislike Chael, but I'm not trying to take anything away from what he did in that fight. At one point, yes I probably did do that. Chael, like any smart fighter, fought his fight. Injured or not, Silva was dominated for 4 1/2 rounds. You can't take that away from Chael or add some excuse to explain it. The only point I'm saying is if Silva has time to feel out Chael, as Bisbing was able to do, then Silva has a huge advantage as he's the better striker. The injury, in my opinion, lead to Silva never getting comfortable in the bout, not the domination that Chael implemented. |
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Post by James Hetfield on Feb 1, 2012 13:42:53 GMT -5
Watch the upcoming documentary about Silva. It CLEARLY shows him with his OWN doctor and UFC's doctor and they both tell him he had a broken rib, and a bruised rib.
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Post by sean™ on Feb 1, 2012 13:52:46 GMT -5
This the only questions I have going into this bout.
1. Can Silva stop Chael's takedowns? (Chael will get at least one or two easy)
2. Can Silva get up faster once he is taken down? (Silva had issues on this in the Hendo fight and the Lutter fight)
3. How much of a glass jaw does Chael really have? (Chael has been rocked quite a few times, to his own admission but clearly has pressed on. How much does it take exactly, should Silva go for the knockout?)
4. While he's clearly continued work on his submission offense, how much has Chael worked on his submission defense? (It's clear Silva was looking for that triangle the majority of the fight. Chael got caught with a straight right, dropped his hands and got caught. Will he even find himself in the same situation?)
I honestly could see this fight going along the lines of the Hendo fight, but that's just me.
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Post by James Hetfield on Feb 1, 2012 14:06:09 GMT -5
Like I said, I'm willing to bet Silva will come more prepared. I'm sure he's working on sweeps, new guards, ways to get back up and general takedown defense.. Chael will get a few takedowns, but I think Silva will know the monster more.
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