Mr Wrestling Jr.
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Post by Mr Wrestling Jr. on Mar 4, 2012 6:58:57 GMT -5
Good mornin' gents.
I was thinking about how WWE organizes there PPVs now, with a LOT of gimmick events, and the same old routines, and thinking about how much more exciting their events were in 2002- 2003, where the only time we were guaranteed a gimmick match was the Rumble and Survivor Series. Do you think WWE events would be better if they were similar to the way they were 10 years ago? I think it would be, by not having Over The Limit, where we always get a John Cena last man standing match. MITB, where there's TWO MITB matches, same that for Mania, no HIAC, no TLC, no Chamber. Just use the old PPV names, or some new ones that might be more appealing.
I would love the see The Bash, KOTR (sorta gimmick), Unforgiven return. Extreme Rules can stay
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Post by thebossbaker on Mar 4, 2012 7:07:11 GMT -5
they should make TTTT a PPV and T.L.C.
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Post by Phantom on Mar 4, 2012 7:30:17 GMT -5
Yes, I completely agree. HIAC matches have suffered dearly from the gimmick PPV. 2 in one night is overkill. Plus, It sucks when you know what match is coming up. When they announced that Taker/HHH would be a HIAC match we were all shocked. I miss that.
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Too Sweet
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Post by Too Sweet on Mar 4, 2012 7:35:09 GMT -5
I dig the gimmick PPV's, I think its a great way to keep it fresh, but in all honesty the name of the PPV shouldn't matter, its the card thats more important.
I just wished the WWE brought in a War Games styled PPV and that they'd bring back King of the Ring as its own PPV, then it'd be perfect imo.
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Post by ● kaneisdaman ● on Mar 4, 2012 7:52:43 GMT -5
HIAC was always the ultimate blow off and the PPV has tarnished the legacy of the match really. Theres been 24 since 1997 and the most disgusting statistic is that after WM28, there has been a whopping 8 (9 if you include a dark match one) in the past 3 years. Also, its pretty sad to think that we've had 15 elimination chamber matches since its inception in 2002. The gimmick matches are being overused, i get they are great to add value to a PPV but part of that value is because they are (or were) rare to see. MITB has been a great PPV, but the other match based ones are not needed. KOTR really should be back as a PPV.
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Post by k5 on Mar 4, 2012 11:48:19 GMT -5
their over use of gimmicks reminds me a lot of wcw 2000...
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Post by mikey1974 on Mar 4, 2012 11:55:51 GMT -5
HIAC was always the ultimate blow off and the PPV has tarnished the legacy of the match really. Theres been 24 since 1997 and the most disgusting statistic is that after WM28, there has been a whopping 8 (9 if you include a dark match one) in the past 3 years. Also, its pretty sad to think that we've had 15 elimination chamber matches since its inception in 2002. The gimmick matches are being overused, i get they are great to add value to a PPV but part of that value is because they are (or were) rare to see. MITB has been a great PPV, but the other match based ones are not needed. KOTR really should be back as a PPV. agreed...it was once something special,a "last resort" type of match to finally settle a feud,or the bad blood between 2 wrestlers was so bad that you put them in there to maim each other... now,it's just become another match.... WM28 one is the first one i've been excited about in years!
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Post by terraryzing on Mar 4, 2012 11:58:50 GMT -5
I've always felt the old PPV schedule was superior, especially since then we only got a gimmick match when we needed it (like HIAC at the end of a fued, or Last Man Standing, or TLC or whatever).
I think 2004-2005 PPV schedule was perfect!
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Post by mikey1974 on Mar 4, 2012 12:02:42 GMT -5
I've always felt the old PPV schedule was superior, especially since then we only got a gimmick match when we needed it (like HIAC at the end of a fued, or Last Man Standing, or TLC or whatever). I think 2004-2005 PPV schedule was perfect! to be honest with you,i felt the OLD PPV schedule was perfect,with only 5 events a year....
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Mar 4, 2012 12:05:13 GMT -5
MITB & EC should be the only gimmick PPVs but change EC back to No Way Out. Get rid of F4W, HIAC and TLC and replace them with KOTR, Armageddon and a PPV like No Mercy or Unforgiven or maybe just keep TLC.
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Post by wabarrett on Mar 4, 2012 12:32:00 GMT -5
I agree but disagree that Extreme Rules should stay; it's just WrestleMania rematches for the most part, only with the same five stipulations added to the match every year. Steel Cage, Last Man Standing, Falls Count Anywhere, terrible Diva concept match, terrible Strap match, Stretcher match or Singapore Cane on-a-pole match.
By using up all those feud-ending, blow-off specialty matches it makes it less exciting when they use it on another PPV later in the year, when they actually need it.
I say all the gimmick PPVs should go except the Royal Rumble. Everything else has been overdone, it's total overkill.
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Post by J12 on Mar 4, 2012 13:16:35 GMT -5
Gimmick Pay-Per-Views ruined gimmick matches, which in turn, diminishes the quality of every well done feud that WWE has.
Gimmick matches mean nothing anymore. It used to be that they were used as a blow off match. Gimmick matches had a purpose, you didn't just throw two guys into Hell in a Cell unless there was a real reason for it. Now they create matches to fit a gimmick. That should NEVER be the case. The gimmick should fit the storyline, plain and simple.
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Post by Irish Wrestling Entertainment on Mar 4, 2012 13:31:59 GMT -5
Gimmick Pay-Per-Views ruined gimmick matches, which in turn, diminishes the quality of every well done feud that WWE has. Gimmick matches mean nothing anymore. It used to be that they were used as a blow off match. Gimmick matches had a purpose, you didn't just throw two guys into Hell in a Cell unless there was a real reason for it. Now they create matches to fit a gimmick. That should NEVER be the case. The gimmick should fit the storyline, plain and simple.
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Post by wabarrett on Mar 4, 2012 13:34:29 GMT -5
Gimmick Pay-Per-Views ruined gimmick matches, which in turn, diminishes the quality of every well done feud that WWE has. Gimmick matches mean nothing anymore. It used to be that they were used as a blow off match. Gimmick matches had a purpose, you didn't just throw two guys into Hell in a Cell unless there was a real reason for it. Now they create matches to fit a gimmick. That should NEVER be the case. The gimmick should fit the storyline, plain and simple. Yes.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2012 13:36:17 GMT -5
I wish they would bring back Backlash, Judgment Day, King of the Ring, No Mercy, No Way Out, and Armageddon and take away Extreme Rules, Over The Limit, Money in the Bank, Hell in a Cell, and Night of Champions.
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Post by drifter on Mar 4, 2012 16:29:21 GMT -5
The only gimmick PPV that I really think made any sense, was Elimination Chamber, but I don't get why they couldn't have just left it, No Way Out, since the name fit the match type. Plus, it should have been just one Chamber match on the card, to determine who challenges for the other title, after the Rumble winner claims his shot for his match.
And like it has already been said, WWE killed the impact of a Hell In A Cell match with the PPV. The match was supposed to be for a feud that got so bad, so personal, so out of control, that it had to be finally settled, in the most brutal way, to ensure, that it would end.
Money in the Bank got turned to crap with the PPV too. When it was a WrestleMania match, it was had a bit of the unsure, for the guy that won it, because he could cash in the contract for either title. So you never might now where he would show up to cash it in. With the PPV concept, they killed that, by limiting it to, he can only cash in on this title. A bit part of the surprise got killed with that.
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Post by TurboEddie on Mar 4, 2012 16:31:54 GMT -5
They should just bring back the pay-per-view schedule from ten years ago.
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Post by wabarrett on Mar 4, 2012 16:42:17 GMT -5
Consider this...
Between November 2002 and December 2006 (just over a 4-year period) there were 5 EC matches (oh how I wish I could forget the Extreme EC).
Between February 2008 and February 2012 (again, a 4-year period), there were 10 EC matches.
*shakes head*
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Post by codebreaker22 on Mar 4, 2012 18:18:30 GMT -5
I agree, I miss when these gimmick matches were for a big pay off in a feud, not just because of the name of the upcoming PPV. MITB should be a WrestleMania staple once again and I do think Elimination Chamber should say but with the NO Way Out name. Extreme Rules I don't mind but not it's placement right after Mania.
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Post by kane9155 on Mar 5, 2012 22:48:28 GMT -5
I hope to see the return of No Mercy, Bad Blood, KOTR, Unforgiven, Judgement Day, & Armageddon.
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