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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Mar 12, 2012 23:47:56 GMT -5
Hey,
Over the weekend I picked up a bunch of UFC DVD's I was falling behind on and one of them was UFC #129 in Toronto.
One fight that stood out to me was Rory MacDonald vs. Nate Diaz. Rory tossed Nate around like a friggin' rag-doll in the 3rd round!! It was crazy!! Nobody has ever done that to Nate.
Rory then went on to win an obvious Unanimous Decision.
Now, what I'm wondering, is just how in the blue hell is Nate Diaz above Rory in the rankings when he clearly lost to him??
In my opinion, I think Rory is getting screwed over by the UFC, big time.
Sure Nate came back and defeated Gomi and Cerrone following his loss to Rory, but Rory also defeated Mike Pyle after he beat Nate.
I don't know how Nate is getting the shot at Jim Miller over Rory at this point. I think Rory deserves the shot at Jim Miller seeing as he beat the guy who is facing Miller next.
I just don't fully understand the rankings sometimes. It just doesn't make too much sense, not in my opinion anyway.
It's almost like Rory went down in the rankings after defeating Nate. I just don't get it.
Nate Diaz is fighting Jim Miller next, while Rory is fighting Che Mills. Can someone PLEASE tell me how Nate is above Rory??
Does anyone else think Rory MacDonald is getting screwed over by the UFC or am I just not seeing the clear picture?? Someone explain it to me, please....
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Post by Kliquid on Mar 12, 2012 23:52:53 GMT -5
This is said time and time again, but the UFC is under no obligation to give any fights to anyone, win, lose or draw.
Yes, you're right - MacDonald likely should be ranked above Nate Diaz, but that's just not how the UFC sees its money-making opportunity at this time.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Mar 13, 2012 0:15:15 GMT -5
^ Yeah, you are right. It's just not how the UFC sees it, money-making wise at this time and I think that's very unfortunate, especially for Rory MacDonald. I think either fight would make money, wether it's Rory/Miller or Nate/Miller.
It shouldn't be just about money-making. I think fighter rankings should come before that and where a certain fighter is ranked, but it is what it is, I suppose. It's not quite right, and I'm not match-maker Joe Silva.
As I said, I think Rory deserves the shot at Jim Miller more-so than Nate, but UFC and Joe Silva sees it differently and who am I to argue?? I can just voice my opinion on the matter and that's pretty much it.
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Post by hammer on Mar 13, 2012 1:31:36 GMT -5
"Sure Nate came back and defeated Gomi and Cerrone following his loss to Rory, but Rory also defeated Mike Pyle after he beat Nate."
donald cerrone is a monster, and nate dominated him. that fight alone is what put him above rory. the argument should be why didnt rory get the shot of a level raising fight like that one before nate, and that i cant answer.
i dont believe nate should be cited, as to why rory is being 'screwed over'. should rory be getting a better shake? absolutely, yes... even his loss, he was winning the fight til 7 seconds left in the 3rd round... and it was to the current [interim] 70 champ. but he also pulled out of two fights due to injury, where nate seems to fight damn near every week. im sure that lowers fighters in the view of silva and dana, undeservedly or not.
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Post by sean™ on Mar 13, 2012 9:12:15 GMT -5
Man this makes me want to watch MacDonald/Condit again.
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Post by Bartman on Mar 13, 2012 9:39:46 GMT -5
Considering Rory McDonald fights at 170 and Jim Miller fights at 155, I think they had some pretty valid reasoning not matching them up together, lol.
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Post by SteveHulk on Mar 13, 2012 16:22:58 GMT -5
Basically - the Diaz/MacDonald fight was at Welterweight... since the fight, Diaz has dropped down to Lightweight and had a couple of great wins and is now in the LW title-picture, while MacDonald is still fighting in the WW division... he probably deserves a better fight at WW though.
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Post by James Hetfield on Mar 13, 2012 16:28:56 GMT -5
It was at a different weight.... duh. Nate beat the  out of a top 10 ranked guy, Cerrone. MacDonald hasn't beaten anyone ranked in his weight class. That's why he's not ranked. lol. |
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Post by Sonnen on Mar 13, 2012 17:08:41 GMT -5
As soon as I read the initial post, I was like. "Am I missing something? There in different weight classes right?"
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Post by 1992 on Mar 13, 2012 18:37:30 GMT -5
lol
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Post by Ian from 616Entertainment. on Mar 18, 2012 16:06:44 GMT -5
"Sure Nate came back and defeated Gomi and Cerrone following his loss to Rory, but Rory also defeated Mike Pyle after he beat Nate." donald cerrone is a monster, and nate dominated him. that fight alone is what put him above rory. the argument should be why didnt rory get the shot of a level raising fight like that one before nate, and that i cant answer. i dont believe nate should be cited, as to why rory is being 'screwed over'. should rory be getting a better shake? absolutely, yes... even his loss, he was winning the fight til 7 seconds left in the 3rd round... and it was to the current [interim] 70 champ. but he also pulled out of two fights due to injury, where nate seems to fight damn near every week. im sure that lowers fighters in the view of silva and dana, undeservedly or not. That's where we are right now, nailed it right on the head. Nate was not expected to beat Cerrone, and he completely handled him. Great show, great fight, a game-changer. |
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Post by James Hetfield on May 8, 2012 18:40:16 GMT -5
So Nate actually beat ANOTHER top-10 fighter at LW, Jim Miller and became the first guy to finish him. Should he be ranked NOW?!
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Post by Kliquid on May 9, 2012 12:17:17 GMT -5
If they were in the same division still, I'd pick Rory to destroy Nate again. No offense to Nate, it just is what it is. Rory's a in animal. |
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Post by Cass on May 9, 2012 17:47:01 GMT -5
If they were in the same division still, I'd pick Rory to destroy Nate again. No offense to Nate, it just is what it is. Rory's a in animal. I thought I was going to die sitting in the 500 level of the Rogers Centre. That building was shaking with every slam. |
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Post by SteveHulk on May 12, 2012 0:29:59 GMT -5
...I'd love to see McDonald against Nick (Diaz) - it would be a really interesting match-up.
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Post by Sonnen on May 12, 2012 1:02:51 GMT -5
Rory would kill him...
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