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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Apr 16, 2012 11:07:47 GMT -5
Hey, I'm sorry, but I've got to get this off my chest because I just don't  ing get it and it'll drive me crazy if I don't say something. How in the blue is Akiyama STILL fighting top tier opponents and more-so, WHY is he STILL ranked so high on event cards?? For the life of me, I just don't ing understand it...I'm just looking at the UFC 149 card and he's fighting Thiago Alves in his next fight and it looks like it's the co-main event...   www.mmaconvert.com/cards/ufc-149-fight-card-betting-odds-tickets-results/Can someone PLEASE explain how that is remotely possible when you have such a sh*tty UFC record like Akiyama has?? The guy hasn't even won a clean fight in the UFC yet and somehow he keeps improving with each loss....That's what it seems like to me and I just cannot get it through my damn thick head why that is... Seriously, what does UFC see in Akiyama for him to keep getting top opponents after losing and losing and losing and losing.... The one fight he did win in the UFC was a RAZOR-thin split decision victory over Alan Belcher and I can remember Joe Rogan on commentary saying "Alan Belcher got robbed" and without question, I definitely agree. Ever since then, Akiyama has lost every single fight. He got subbed against Leben, lost a unanimous decision to Bisping, got knocked the out against Belfort and most recently, lost a unanimous decision to Jake Shields. In my opinion, he shouldn't even be on the main card with 4-straight losses. Come on, he should be fighting on the under-card or even be released from the UFC. Other fighters have been released from UFC with less losses and I just can't figure out how Akiyama is still there and getting top fights on a main card....I just don't get it.... |
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Post by James Hetfield on Apr 16, 2012 12:09:52 GMT -5
He's an exciting fighter. That's why.
And, don't expect Akiyama/Alves to be the co-main event of 149. Expect a light heavyweight fight to take that spot. Heard it here!
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Apr 16, 2012 13:02:59 GMT -5
He's an exciting fighter. That's why. That's not a very vaild reason for explaining how he constantly gets chance after chance after chance with top opponents he DOESN'T deserve to be fighting. It's complete bullsh*t, if you ask me. 4-straight losses like he's had, he doesn't deserve another shot. Certainly not against someone like Alves. He should be fighting Dan Hardy and the loser of that one should be out of the UFC. That's what SHOULD happen. But Hardy is already tied up with "Bang" Ludwig, but if he wasn't, I'm sure that's the fight that would be happening. I REALLY hope you are right on that not being the co-main event because that'll piss me off to no end if it is. Come on James, regardless if he's an exciting fighter or not, you've got to agree with me that at this point, with 4-straight losses, Akiyama clearly does NOT deserve to be co-main eventing if that is the case here. Would you even say he deserves to be fighting on a main card with 4-straight losses?? I just really, really hope you are right that it isn't co-main event because Akiyama doesn't deserve that chance or opportunity. Rack up at least 2 or 3 wins and then we'll talk, but right now, with 4-straight losses, you should be on the undercard on Facebook or out of the UFC. Bottom line. Exciting fighter or not. |
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Post by Kliquid on Apr 16, 2012 15:48:45 GMT -5
I agree with you to some extent, but the UFC also wants to make sure they secure the Japanese market... And to be quite honest, most of the Japanese fighters are pretty damn mediocre. At least Akiyama is fun to watch though.
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Post by hammer on Apr 16, 2012 16:20:21 GMT -5
axe to grind much?
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 16, 2012 17:40:58 GMT -5
Old School... if you just look at his straight win/loss record, then you may have a point. BUT other factors do have to be taken into consideration... he's an exciting fighter and his first three UFC fights - even though he lost two of them - were all very competitive and ALL won Fight Of The Night honors. Yes, after that, he was blown out by Belfort - so moved down to Welterweight... and at times in that Shields fight, he looked freaking awesome - and didn't deserve to be cut after that performance. He maybe shouldn't be fighting so high up on the card - but he's one of those fighters (like Bisping) who is a "name" guy and helps the growth of the company in international markets... he definitely still deserves to be fighting on the main card (imo). Plus, the guy has just about the coolest walk-out in the UFC, so...  |
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Apr 17, 2012 11:14:41 GMT -5
I guess losses don't mean as much they should, just as long as "you're an exciting fighter"... Whatever....What a bunch of crap. You know who else is "an exciting fighter"?? How about the guy that should have beaten Akiyama in his UFC debut, Alan Belcher. Belcher is riding a 3-fight win streak and is about to fight "Tree-Stump", and yet I bet he won't even fight as high on the card as Akiyama will. Exciting fighter or not, you've got to prove you belong in the UFC with ing WINS for christ sakes and so far, Akiyama hasn't proven to me jack-sh*t. He's lost them all. I don't count his split-decision win over Belcher as a win because that was ing highway robbery. That was a fluke with biased judges. Get rid of the guy. He sucks. He can't win and never wins. He doesn't deserve the opportunity. Give it to someone else, someone more deserving who isn't riding a 4-fight lose streak. I hope Alves drops him quick and FINALLY gives Akiyama his walking papers. |
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Post by johnmcclane44 on Apr 17, 2012 12:45:10 GMT -5
He's an exciting fighter. That's why. That's not a very vaild reason for explaining how he constantly gets chance after chance after chance with top opponents he DOESN'T deserve to be fighting. It's complete bullsh*t, if you ask me. 4-straight losses like he's had, he doesn't deserve another shot. Certainly not against someone like Alves. He should be fighting Dan Hardy and the loser of that one should be out of the UFC. That's what SHOULD happen. But Hardy is already tied up with "Bang" Ludwig, but if he wasn't, I'm sure that's the fight that would be happening. I REALLY hope you are right on that not being the co-main event because that'll piss me off to no end if it is. Come on James, regardless if he's an exciting fighter or not, you've got to agree with me that at this point, with 4-straight losses, Akiyama clearly does NOT deserve to be co-main eventing if that is the case here. Would you even say he deserves to be fighting on a main card with 4-straight losses?? I just really, really hope you are right that it isn't co-main event because Akiyama doesn't deserve that chance or opportunity. Rack up at least 2 or 3 wins and then we'll talk, but right now, with 4-straight losses, you should be on the undercard on Facebook or out of the UFC. Bottom line. Exciting fighter or not. The UFC at the end of the day, isn't about fairness. It's a business. It's the sad reality. He is an exciting fighter and probably improves buyrates from overseas. It's all a business. Otherwise Fitch would have had more title opportunities than he has had (previous to his loss) simply because of his record. But he fights boring and grinds out wins, most people don't want to see that, so he never was truly put in that spotlight he could have been because of his record. At the end of the day the UFC is the same as any sport. The money |
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Post by sean™ on Apr 17, 2012 16:26:32 GMT -5
One could make the same argument for Tito as well. If it wasn't for the Bader fight, his career would already be over.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2012 17:17:10 GMT -5
Yeah, based on losses. Akiyama should definitely be gone from the UFC by now, but I can understand why the UFC has kept him on, due to his name value and marketability.
I really don't see him beating anyone soon, but I have been surprised before.
Perhaps if he loses this next fight against Alves then it might be the prelims next for him, who knows.
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Post by hammer on Apr 17, 2012 17:30:33 GMT -5
Old School... if you just look at his straight win/loss record, then you may have a point. BUT other factors do have to be taken into consideration... he's an exciting fighter and his first three UFC fights - even though he lost two of them - were all very competitive and ALL won Fight Of The Night honors. Yes, after that, he was blown out by Belfort - so moved down to Welterweight... and at times in that Shields fight, he looked freaking awesome - and didn't deserve to be cut after that performance. He maybe shouldn't be fighting so high up on the card - but he's one of those fighters (like Bisping) who is a "name" guy and helps the growth of the company in international markets... he definitely still deserves to be fighting on the main card (imo). Plus, the guy has just about the coolest walk-out in the UFC, so... the voice of reason |
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Post by Sonnen on Apr 17, 2012 20:46:31 GMT -5
Because Akiyama rocks, and it makes you mad, 'nuff said.
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