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Post by HHH316 on May 22, 2012 1:02:00 GMT -5
The Big Show debuted in February 1999 as a heel. Over the last 13 years it feels like he's flip flopped more times than a politician. Can someone figure it out? I start to & then I get a headache. But I bet the number is very intriguing.
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Post by kazoosandstreamers on May 22, 2012 1:06:50 GMT -5
I rather do math homework!
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2012 1:07:38 GMT -5
Same with Kane.
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Post by Zeke on May 22, 2012 1:54:41 GMT -5
I started watching in April 2001 and this is what I can remember since then:
April 2001 - Heel - facing Shane McMahon at Backlash
July 2001 - Face - Team WWF against the Alliance
April/May 2002 - Heel - joins the nWo
October 2002 - Face - Annoys Bishoff and get's traded to SmackDown for I believe four superstars
November 2002 - Heel - Attacks Lesnar and Mysterio wins WWE Championship, continues heel turn after losing it, continues heel and wins United States Championship off Eddie Guerrero, Big Show is 'fired' from WWE
Mid 2004 - Face - Chosed to feud with Angle, drafted to Raw in 2005, feud with Snitsky, become World Tag Team Champion with Kane, at Taboo Tuesday in November 2005, feud with Triple H, feud with Carlito & Chris Masters, loses World Tag Team Belts in April 2006, feud with Kane,
June 2006 - Heel - Jumped to ECW, wins ECW Championship, feud with ECW Orginals, fued with Cena & Booker T, feud with Lashley, loses ECW Championship,
December 2006 - Leaves WWE for a bit,
February 2008 - Heel - Returns to SmackDown, feud with Floyd Mayweather,
April 2008 - Face - feud with Great Khali, failed to win ECW Championship,
October 2008 - Heel - Joins Vickie Guerrero, feuds with Undertaker, feud with Cena & Edge, drafted to Raw in April 2009, feud with Cena, holds Unified Tag Team Championship with Jericho, feud with Raw roster, feud with Undertaker & Jericho, feud with DX, lost Unified Tag Team Championships, forms Show-Miz, wins Unifed Tag Team Championships, feud with Morrison & Truth, loses Tag Team Championships to Hart Dynasty,
April 2010 - Face - Punches Miz in the face, drafted to SmackDown, feud with Swagger, feud with Punk and friends, feud with the Corre, wins Tag Team Championships, feud with Nexus, loses Tag Team Championships,, feud with Del Rio, 'injured', feud with Mark Henry, 'injured', continued feud with Mark Henry, wins World Belt, loses it to a cashing in by Daniel Bryan, feud with Mark Henry & Daniel Bryan, feud with Cody Rhodes, wins Intercontintal Championship, loses Intercontintal Championship, 'fired'
May 2011 - Heel - Turned on Cena
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Post by HHH316 on May 22, 2012 1:58:01 GMT -5
Ahh hell, I'll try to figure it out: (with help from wiki)
Debut Feb 1999: Heel (1)
May 1999: Face- the Union faction (2)
Summer 1999: Heel- Teams with Taker (3)
Fall 1999: Face- wins WWF title (4)
January 2000: Heel- feuds with Rock (5)
YES! You are reading this correctly. He turned 5 times in less than a year of his debut.
Spring 2000: Face- Comedy gimmick (6)
January 2001: Returns as a heel- Hardcore title storyline (7)
Spring 2001: Face- With team WWF (8)
Spring 2002: Heel- With the nWo (9)
Mid 2004: Face -Feuds with Angle & gets his head shaved (10)
Summer 2006: Heel- Wins ECW title (11)
Spring 2008: Face- Feuds with Khali after Mayweather (12)
Fall 2008: Heel- Vickie Guerrero love interest (13)
Spring 2010: Face- turns on Miz after they lose tag titles (14)
Spring 2012: Heel- turns on Cena (15)
There you have it. 15 turns.
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Post by hbkjason on May 22, 2012 2:16:32 GMT -5
Here is another question, does any one have any actual interest in another Big Show heel turn? I always think Big Show comes across as a really nice and funny guy, but in all the live events I have been to since 91, I have never seen a more lazy half assed performer than Big Show.
I know its far fetched but I would have much rather seen someone like Zack Ryder turn on Cena, at least it would have been new and fresh.
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Post by Eat Defeat. on May 22, 2012 11:06:14 GMT -5
Ahh hell, I'll try to figure it out: (with help from wiki) Debut Feb 1999: Heel (1) May 1999: Face- the Union faction (2) Summer 1999: Heel- Teams with Taker (3) Fall 1999: Face- wins WWF title (4) January 2000: Heel- feuds with Rock (5) YES! You are reading this correctly. He turned 5 times in less than a year of his debut. Spring 2000: Face- Comedy gimmick (6) January 2001: Returns as a heel- Hardcore title storyline (7) Spring 2001: Face- With team WWF (8) Spring 2002: Heel- With the nWo (9) Mid 2004: Face -Feuds with Angle & gets his head shaved (10) Summer 2006: Heel- Wins ECW title (11) Spring 2008: Face- Feuds with Khali after Mayweather (12) Fall 2008: Heel- Vickie Guerrero love interest (13) Spring 2010: Face- turns on Miz after they lose tag titles (14) Spring 2012: Heel- turns on Cena (15) There you have it. 15 turns. Did he go face for a short time after the NWO? That'd make it 16. |
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Post by muccguy88 on May 22, 2012 11:16:18 GMT -5
Has Big Show turned more than anyone else in history?
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2012 11:33:30 GMT -5
Way too much. Kane is another good one as already mentioned.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2012 11:52:32 GMT -5
When you've been in the business as long as he has, he's bound to turn a lot. He just fits in the category of being good either way.
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Post by Turnbuckle Zealot(Phil) on May 22, 2012 12:26:04 GMT -5
Here is another question, does any one have any actual interest in another Big Show heel turn? I always think Big Show comes across as a really nice and funny guy, but in all the live events I have been to since 91, I have never seen a more lazy half assed performer than Big Show. I know its far fetched but I would have much rather seen someone like Zack Ryder turn on Cena, at least it would have been new and fresh. That's called being an attraction. He shows up, gives the people what they came to see(Largest wrestler alive perform in some capacity in person) & get back in the bus & SLEEP! He's hit the age where Andre was told he would not live to see. WE ARE LUCKY TO HAVE HIM & HOW HARD HE TRIES TO DO RIGHT BY THE BUSINESS. Only typed in caps to make sure you see it. Because it needs to be understood. If you don't like show, you don't appreciate the theatrical aspect of SHWs in wrestling. Which if it's not your thing it's fine. Moving on, Show actually cut a good, to the point promo which makes want to see more. I look forward to seeing if they can breathe new life into the modern era's Hogan vs Andre. Also show looks badass in formal attire. |
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2012 13:44:19 GMT -5
I think Show is incredibly entertaining I just wish that the WWE wouldn't job him out as much. I was at a live event once where Rey Mysterio pinned him clean and it just doesn't come across as believable.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2012 13:53:16 GMT -5
I think he's better as a heel
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Post by OverTheEdge on May 22, 2012 13:55:04 GMT -5
When you've been in the business as long as he has, he's bound to turn a lot. He just fits in the category of being good either way. Exactly. I'd feel comfortable saying that Show's probably the best big man wrestler ever (not including 'Taker). The fact that he's able to turn that many times and still have fans react shows how versatile he can be--especially considering the range in types of both faces and heels that he's been. However, 15 turns still does sound at least a little excessive. |
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Post by sean™ on May 22, 2012 13:58:09 GMT -5
Well, at least they actually acknowledged his turn. I mean.....the last time we saw Christian on TV, he was being beat up by CM Punk and was on the side of Team Johnny.
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Post by Rule 30 on May 22, 2012 14:50:59 GMT -5
At least the turn has something to it this time. He was brought down to his knees crying and he was fired. Then the crowd showed him no sympathy when he did what he had to do to continue doing what he loved. Makes sense.
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Post by prodigy on May 22, 2012 15:14:38 GMT -5
15?  ? Wow.... thats a lot of turns... So Quick Question....... Has Undertaker ever turned? I always considered him neutral |
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Post by OverTheEdge on May 22, 2012 16:29:19 GMT -5
15? ? Wow.... thats a lot of turns... So Quick Question....... Has Undertaker ever turned? I always considered him neutral Oh, yeah. Plenty of times. From since I started watching back in '98, I can remember with Kane, the Ministry of Darkness, his return as the American Badass, his transition to Big Evil, after his ladder match with Jeff Hardy, and he's pretty much been a face ever since. |
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Post by HHH316 on May 22, 2012 18:11:59 GMT -5
Taker has had multiple turns, but no where near as many as Show.
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