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Post by cmsaint on Aug 26, 2012 6:45:31 GMT -5
If you think about it with these wrestlers being more in shape and less beat up due to no hardcore matches every week and the fact that they have to rely on pure wrestling ability alot of the time, i believe match quality has improved so much, thoughts?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2012 6:51:37 GMT -5
Not really. The quality of in ring work in the 90s was far superior to now.
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Post by bobothegoblin on Aug 26, 2012 6:52:51 GMT -5
LOL are you serious? I would hardly call squash matches that you know whos gonna win good and there are also too many safety rules in todays WWE.
If you want to watch good wrestling check out TNA or WWE or WCW from the 90's.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Aug 26, 2012 6:57:02 GMT -5
Its improved in the last few years but just because the WWE has the talent doesn't mean the match quality will automatically improve.
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Post by cmsaint on Aug 26, 2012 6:57:06 GMT -5
LOL are you serious? I would hardly call squash matches that you know whos gonna win good and there are also too many safety rules in todays WWE. If you want to watch good wrestling check out TNA or WWE or WCW from the 90's. Thats it, thats the last TNA or Attitude reference i can take, im just... im done |
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Post by nwoblackandred4l on Aug 26, 2012 6:57:31 GMT -5
Certainly not in the 90's the ring work was much better than now.
All you see in this era are punches, kicks and body slams no good moves anymore due to this safety crap.
Back in the 90's aswell wrestlers earned everything but now they are just given titles.
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Post by revolution on Aug 26, 2012 7:05:00 GMT -5
Certainly not in the 90's the ring work was much better than now. All you see in this era are punches, kicks and body slams no good moves anymore due to this safety crap.Back in the 90's aswell wrestlers earned everything but now they are just given titles. You're an idiot. |
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Post by Eat Defeat. on Aug 26, 2012 8:29:30 GMT -5
"safety crap" LMAO!
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Aug 26, 2012 8:36:13 GMT -5
Certainly not in the 90's the ring work was much better than now. All you see in this era are punches, kicks and body slams no good moves anymore due to this safety crap.
Back in the 90's aswell wrestlers earned everything but now they are just given titles. I agree, it's really ridiculous how the WWE is starting to care about their workers health and safety. WE WANTS MOR BLOODZ!!!!  |
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Post by Chip on Aug 26, 2012 9:02:13 GMT -5
When we actually GET long or decent length matches....yes
however the squash match has become waaaayyyyyy too normal for TV and it's quite frustrating, when you KNOW these guys could do better but all they do is go out there hit a few punches & the faces hit their signature moves in the same order, at the same time and win.
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Post by The Sexy Psychotic on Aug 26, 2012 9:02:54 GMT -5
No, this is just incorrect. The matches nowadays are so slow, everything is sluggish and every match has to be put on like a classic and viewed as just that. Either a classic or a squash match. WWE matches now are boring, the Triple H/Lesnar match is a great example, it was hyped as a fight, Lesnar is an animal, Trips has been so heartless in the past; this should have been a brawl to end all brawls. What we got was nothing more than a sluggish match, no real hard-hitting, and no real need for the No DQ part.
Now sure, we've gotten a few good matches in the last 5/6 years, but I don't watch wrestling for 2/3 good matches a year, I don't buy 13/14 PPVs a year with the hope that we might get 1 good match on the card a PPV.
I don't mean to be one of those guys going on about the old days, but in 97-03 there was little filler, you would get atleast 3/4 good matches a show and atleast 1 great one. Its clear that when WWE had compition they cared alot more about everything,k whereas now they clearly don't and are only pushing what they know will make them more money/get them more exposure.
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Post by jammer311 on Aug 26, 2012 10:02:51 GMT -5
I just hate how they have amazing talent being used as jobbers on Raw, when they could easily bring in indy stars like they did in the 80s and 90s to be the jobbers to the WWE stars on Raw.
Christian shouldn't be losing to Damien Sandow in under 2 minutes on Raw. But some indy guy who is trying to get into the WWE full time should. Plus it gives that indy guy some notice to get booked for other indy shows.
The only reason why people don't think this era is good for wrestling, is because it's not a hot time frame right now for wrestling. People look at the Attitude Era as the best, because it was so over and wrestling was so hot then.
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Post by Rule 30 on Aug 26, 2012 10:05:49 GMT -5
I think on TV we get much better matches on RAW, SmackDown, and Superstars than we did on RAW is WAR and SmackDown fourteen years ago.
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Post by jacktunney on Aug 26, 2012 10:11:19 GMT -5
People always say this and i can not see why. It's not about the blood or the "attitude" but if you don think the wrestling was better in the 90's go watch WCW's midcard.
Regardless of whether you feel it's right or wrong, the safety stuff does impact the match quality. No longer can you use s h a high impact move such as a piledriver or brainbuster. Also other simple standard moves seem to be non existent. I can't tell you the last time Ive seen a snap mare. Simple, but effective moves to keep things fresh. Witht he exception of Punk and Bryan It feels like every match is a variation of punch, kick, bulldog, arm drag, punch, kick, shoulder block.
Also just because the guys now of days are in shape and super athletic does not equal quality matches. That's for sure.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2012 14:58:31 GMT -5
No the matches today are nowhere near as good as some of the ECW,WWF,WCW matches i see.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2012 15:27:42 GMT -5
The overall cards are SUPREMELY better on the weekly TV shows. I'd rather see Miz vs Mysterio for the IC title than see D'Lo Brown vs Val Venis for the European title any day of the week.
However, the PPVs in the 90's were a million times better than today.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2012 15:48:13 GMT -5
The overall cards are SUPREMELY better on the weekly TV shows. I'd rather see Miz vs Mysterio for the IC title than see D'Lo Brown vs Val Venis for the European title any day of the week. However, the PPVs in the 90's were a million times better than today. Val or D-Lo could wrestle rings around The Miz or Mysterio. |
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Post by mrassbillygunn on Aug 26, 2012 15:54:42 GMT -5
The guys today are better athletes but in terms of wrestling ability they still lack behind the guys of the past. Like if i watch a classic match everything looks more stiff and believable than the guys do it nowadays.
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Post by The Sexy Psychotic on Aug 26, 2012 16:19:33 GMT -5
The overall cards are SUPREMELY better on the weekly TV shows. I'd rather see Miz vs Mysterio for the IC title than see D'Lo Brown vs Val Venis for the European title any day of the week. However, the PPVs in the 90's were a million times better than today. Val or D-Lo could wrestle rings around The Miz or Mysterio. Totally agree with this, not to mention just how important Championships were back then, Val and D'Lo for the Euro title would have been a great match tbh. |
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Post by /X Metal Sorenges x "Mac Oh J~ on Aug 26, 2012 16:22:05 GMT -5
Not really. The quality of in ring work in the 90s was far superior to now. Absolutely I'm not sure how anyone can question this. |
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