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Post by THE *Legendary* STINGER on Oct 10, 2012 15:18:09 GMT -5
I am on Punk's side with this, but you can clearly see his arm made contact with the back of Punk's head when he lifted them to put his glasses on. I think Punk was right to attack, but wrong to do it blindly. I didn't say he made no contact, but clearly the fan who was attacked didn't shove Punk as the OP suggests. I was one section over watching it.. Yes he did.. WWE has the footage and if the kid tries to bring it to court it will be shown and prove this fan was WAY out of line. If it was me getting PHYSICALLY abused by this guy or the people around me, by law, I have every right to knock him the fuxk out. Just because Punk plays a bad guy doesn't give ANY of those fans the right to touch him. No one was pushing and slapping or elbow/punching other fans. Because in the real world, that's assault. Defending yourself only comes when you are touched first. |
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Post by MonsoonMan on Oct 10, 2012 15:39:02 GMT -5
its like i said two times before in the previous thread-a little touching; patting the talent on the back, shoulder, belt or something to get a LITTLE contact with the champ is OK. but these people were pushing, shoving and punching a wwe talent. THEY ALL were WAY outta line and yes, security was at fault because AS SOON AS punk jumped the rail there should have been atleast two guards escorting him through the people.
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Post by Markw on Oct 10, 2012 15:50:28 GMT -5
I didn't say he made no contact, but clearly the fan who was attacked didn't shove Punk as the OP suggests. I was one section over watching it.. Yes he did.. WWE has the footage and if the kid tries to bring it to court it will be shown and prove this fan was WAY out of line. If it was me getting PHYSICALLY abused by this guy or the people around me, by law, I have every right to knock him the fuxk out. Just because Punk plays a bad guy doesn't give ANY of those fans the right to touch him. No one was pushing and slapping or elbow/punching other fans. Because in the real world, that's assault. Defending yourself only comes when you are touched first. You are wrong, the fan who is hit by Punk doesn't shove him, it's the fan in white behind the guy who gets hit that shoves Punk, you obviously can't have had that good a view. |
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Post by threehgame on Oct 10, 2012 16:28:27 GMT -5
These threads are so much fun. It brings out the armchair lawyers and rednecks. Until charges are filed and McDevitt starts to issue statements this is just a PR nightmare. Punk swung at someone, he had no idea who it was, and he was panicked because he was getting punched. Everyone involved is at fault. Just be thankful the guy that got punched didn't fall on an old lady or a small child otherwise this would be a huge issue.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2012 16:40:33 GMT -5
FIRST OFF WATCH THE VIDEO As you can see this kid pushes punk MULTIPLE times. He "puts on his glasses" and shoves punks head. Maybe you should watch the video. The fan who paid to watch the show, did not do any of those things to Punk, and got hit in the face for his troubles. That's not ok. Youre freaking blind dude, its CLEAR as day at :38 you can see the guy that Punk attacked deliberately slapped the top of Punks head then put his glasses on. Punk attacked the right guy, it couldnt be clearer that the guy deliberately slapped Punks head. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2012 16:45:17 GMT -5
For the last time... Punk's head flinches forwards when SG raises his arm, because the guy to the left of him slaps him in the back of the head. Sunglasses Guy doesn't even touch him. Honestly, can no one else see this? Why would someone put there glasses on in a stadium? He did it to look like he was doing something else when he went to slap Punks head. When he raised his arm you can see him slap Punks head and go for his glasses to make people think thats why he rised his arm. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2012 16:49:32 GMT -5
I still don't think Punk was in the wrong at all
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Post by Markw on Oct 10, 2012 17:00:18 GMT -5
Maybe you should watch the video. The fan who paid to watch the show, did not do any of those things to Punk, and got hit in the face for his troubles. That's not ok. Youre freaking blind dude, its CLEAR as day at :38 you can see the guy that Punk attacked deliberately slapped the top of Punks head then put his glasses on. Punk attacked the right guy, it couldnt be clearer that the guy deliberately slapped Punks head. It's the hand of the guy in the white T-Shirt that hits Punk, Punk hits the guy in the glasses who doesn't shove Punk at all. Seriously the guy who caused it has admitted as much on twitter and if you watched the video properly you'd see that for yourself. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2012 17:09:34 GMT -5
Youre freaking blind dude, its CLEAR as day at :38 you can see the guy that Punk attacked deliberately slapped the top of Punks head then put his glasses on. Punk attacked the right guy, it couldnt be clearer that the guy deliberately slapped Punks head. It's the hand of the guy in the white T-Shirt that hits Punk, Punk hits the guy in the glasses who doesn't shove Punk at all. Seriously the guy who caused it has admitted as much on twitter and if you watched the video properly you'd see that for yourself. Looking at it again youre partly right, the little guy in white behind sunglasses does hit Punk, but sunglasses did tap/push Punks head alittle before that happened as well, thats why he went for the glasses in the first place, to make it look like he was doing something else. White shirt guy reached in while sunglasses still had is arms raised and slapped Punks head again. Punk snapped because he got hit in the head REPEATEDLY. Sunglasses slapped Punk the first time and white shirt did the bigger slap that made Punk snap and Punk thought it was the same guy. Sunglasses guy is just as guilty as white shirt guy |
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Post by Escape The Rules on Oct 10, 2012 17:14:41 GMT -5
If you watch closely, look behind the guy who got hit & you see another guy slap the back of Punk's head, it should've been that guy who was clobbered. Sunglasses guy's arm made contact with Punk because of the  ing twat behind him slapping Punk. |
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Post by Markw on Oct 10, 2012 17:17:54 GMT -5
It's the hand of the guy in the white T-Shirt that hits Punk, Punk hits the guy in the glasses who doesn't shove Punk at all. Seriously the guy who caused it has admitted as much on twitter and if you watched the video properly you'd see that for yourself. Looking at it again youre partly right, the little guy in white behind sunglasses does hit Punk, but sunglasses did tap/push Punks head alittle before that happened as well, thats why he went for the glasses in the first place, to make it look like he was doing something else. White shirt guy reached in while sunglasses still had is arms raised and slapped Punks head again. Punk snapped because he got hit in the head REPEATEDLY. Sunglasses slapped Punk the first time and white shirt did the bigger slap that made Punk snap and Punk thought it was the same guy. Sunglasses guy is just as guilty as white shirt guy I couldn't see that? I believe I'm right in saying that the guy who gets hit was pushed into Punk a few seconds earlier, but I can't see the guy who ends up getting attacked making any active attempt to hit/push/shove Punk. |
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Post by Chip on Oct 10, 2012 17:32:59 GMT -5
you know what else is funny about this....the guy punk smacked is standing up like 3 seconds after he got hit when security finally gets up there he's standing looking like "WTF"...its the last couple of seconds of the video
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Post by JC Motors on Oct 10, 2012 17:40:36 GMT -5
Also, I thought this was really funny.... WWE returns to Sacramento for a Smackdown taping on January 22nd. The presale code on TicketMaster is: SMACKFAN. that is funny |
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Post by y2yay on Oct 10, 2012 17:51:12 GMT -5
For the last time... Punk's head flinches forwards when SG raises his arm, because the guy to the left of him slaps him in the back of the head. Sunglasses Guy doesn't even touch him. Honestly, can no one else see this? He did it to look like he was doing something else when he went to slap Punks head. When he raised his arm you can see him slap Punks head and go for his glasses to make people think thats why he rised his arm. I don't know, but that's not the issue here. If you want to say Punk lashing out was fine, whatever. That's your opinion, I can't change it even though I think it's wrong. To say the man with sunglasses hit Punk first is not even debatable though. PUNK'S HEAD IS SLAPPED BY THE OTHER GUY. This video clearly shows it and even highlights the other guy's hand where he slaps Punk. There was one idiot pushing him wearing the black shirt (seen on the left of the video and seen pushing Punk in the full length version of the video), another idiot in a white t-shirt who slapped him in the back of the head during the video (highlighted in the video above) and Sunglasses Guy who gets pushed into Punk on the longer video but DOES NOT HIT HIM. |
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Post by Fleet Foxes on Oct 10, 2012 17:53:10 GMT -5
Maybe you should watch the video. The fan who paid to watch the show, did not do any of those things to Punk, and got hit in the face for his troubles. That's not ok. I am on Punk's side with this, but you can clearly see his arm made contact with the back of Punk's head when he lifted them to put his glasses on. I think Punk was right to attack, but wrong to do it blindly. It looked like the guy was about to tip over and instinctively touched Punk's head for support to keep from falling. Or he was just putting his hand down and unfortunately caught Punk on the head on accident. The kid was the problem |
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Post by Escape The Rules on Oct 10, 2012 18:34:06 GMT -5
Why would someone put there glasses on in a stadium? He did it to look like he was doing something else when he went to slap Punks head. When he raised his arm you can see him slap Punks head and go for his glasses to make people think thats why he rised his arm. I don't know, but that's not the issue here. If you want to say Punk lashing out was fine, whatever. That's your opinion, I can't change it even though I think it's wrong. To say the man with sunglasses hit Punk first is not even debatable though. PUNK'S HEAD IS SLAPPED BY THE OTHER GUY. This video clearly shows it and even highlights the other guy's hand where he slaps Punk. There was one idiot pushing him wearing the black shirt (seen on the left of the video and seen pushing Punk in the full length version of the video), another idiot in a white t-shirt who slapped him in the back of the head during the video (highlighted in the video above) and Sunglasses Guy who gets pushed into Punk on the longer video but DOES NOT HIT HIM. Thank you! |
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Post by jasonphoenix1 on Oct 10, 2012 19:33:15 GMT -5
For the last time... Punk's head flinches forwards when SG raises his arm, because the guy to the left of him slaps him in the back of the head. Sunglasses Guy doesn't even touch him. Honestly, can no one else see this? You are right. There is another video that breaks it down slowly for people to see. The guy in the black shirt on Punks right pushes him twice. And the in the guy in the sunglasses has a guy behind him that was flipping the bird at Punk and then slaps him in the back of the head. At the same time the sunglasses guy goes to put on his glasses and gets popped because Punk thought it was him. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2012 19:49:17 GMT -5
On a side note if this had been Del Rio, or Orton etc this would be a lot different. People would want their heads.
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Post by Razor-toothed™ on Oct 10, 2012 20:02:33 GMT -5
On a side note if this had been Del Rio, or Orton etc this would be a lot different. People would want their heads. QFT. I can't even imagine the anger people on here would have, if Cena had done something like this. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2012 21:24:27 GMT -5
On a side note if this had been Del Rio, or Orton etc this would be a lot different. People would want their heads. I'd still stand behind them being justified to do what Punk did. |
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