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Post by cordless2016 on Oct 15, 2012 14:11:08 GMT -5
Seriously Austin first few months were perfect, as TNA had him go over their top guy in Roode twice. Then everything seemed to fall apart. First Aries was made to look like a chump in the Aces&Eights storyline and then was made to look like crap leading up to BFG. Then top top it Aries had to put over the talentless Jeff Hardy.
I don't know why TNA decided to book Aries as a weak champ after a strong first 2 months. TNA was doing so well for months and now to me they have flushed most of that down the toilet by burrying Aries to Hardy. Jeff has had so many second chances that I cannot count them anymore. Jeff never deserved to hold the world title again yet TNA just doesn't seem to learn its lesson.
What do you guys think of Aries overall title run?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2012 14:12:59 GMT -5
Just another case of TNA dropping the ball with someone. The only reason they gave Hardy the title was to sway him into staying with them, which is stupid.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2012 14:13:18 GMT -5
Hardy's contract is expiring. Shouldn't be shocking that Aries lost to him.
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Post by pxkgotosleep on Oct 15, 2012 14:30:18 GMT -5
His first few months as Champion where not perfect. The fact that suddenly out of no where, our world Champion wasn't wrestling on Impact. That sucked. Every week of his X-Division Championship reign he wrestled, but as soon as he takes the main title that stopped.
Then the whole Aces and Eights BS started and he got dragged into it...
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Post by Randolph J 'Hurricane' Spencer on Oct 15, 2012 14:44:15 GMT -5
July to October isn't the longest or greatest run in history, but it's still a run.
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Post by punksnotdead on Oct 15, 2012 15:02:42 GMT -5
I think his two matches with Roode were awesome, but outside of that, what's really to talk about? I still think him dropping the title to Jeff is going to be part of his heel turn. He has to lose to have a reason to turn heel. Now he can play the bitter role with an even bigger chip on his shoulder. Non kayfabe, I think there is plenty of stuff that went into this decision. The validity of the BFG series, the ratings, the Jeff contract, but I don't think it's the last we have seen of Aries at the top. A heel Aries opened the door for Aries vs AJ, Angle, Kennedy, RVD, Storm, Joe, and even a possible rivalry with Hardy. We will surely get a rematch, but then what for A Double? The fans booed Hardy winning the title, that says something to me. Largely, I don't think too many people bought into the whole idea of any kind of Jeff Hardy "redemption" story. You don't win prizes for not being a  up, but that's exactly what TNA did with Jeff. We shall see. I'm thankful TNA pulled the trigger on him, and that moment at Destination X was one of the best moments in TNA history imo. I just hope he continues to receive plenty of focus with or without a title around his waist because he deserves it. I just have to ask, now what? Jeff is as baby as a baby can be and the only guy who is even a full heel right now is Bobby Roode. Wouldn't you say Bully is tween right now? Not sure where TNA as a company is headed with the title picture. Plus, when has Jeff ever really carried the ball? Never if you ask me. Not the way a Kurt Angle or Bobby Roode carried the ball. |
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Post by marino13 on Oct 15, 2012 17:33:25 GMT -5
For some reason TNA has a history of getting something great going and then pulling the rug out all of a sudden. Add this to the list I guess.
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Post by Scotty on Oct 15, 2012 18:42:50 GMT -5
Well, I for one am just grateful we actually saw him win the title, because we sure as hell know Jeff wont drop it any time soon
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Post by pxkgotosleep on Oct 15, 2012 19:06:00 GMT -5
Well, I for one am just grateful we actually saw him win the title, because we sure as hell know Jeff wont drop it any time soon Isn't Jeff's contract up in January? |
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Post by SodaGuy on Oct 15, 2012 19:21:16 GMT -5
Nobody is willing to let this play out? Goodness, everyone is already throwing their hands up and screaming about how horrible this is. It's just like Bound for Glory last year. Everyone bitched because Bobby Roode didn't go over Kurt Angle and I'll be damned, it worked out for the better. Bobby Roode became a major heel, held the championship for a long period of time, etc. This forum was all over TNA for not "doing the right thing", yet it all worked out for the better. Give it time before you throw TNA under the bus and scream how "crapty" they are. It's typical of this forum, I suppose.
I don't see how Austin Aries was buried, either. Did you not hear the fans behind him? The boos that Jeff Hardy got? That says alot for Aries in the main event, more than a victory, in my opinion. You act like TNA is just going to drop him out of the entire world title picture. Aries is still as strong as he was months ago (with the fans) and now he looks strong leaving Bound for Glory, with the effort against Hardy.
And before anything is said, I don't like that Hardy won anymore than you do... but this isn't a situation where the sky is falling. Aries wasn't going to be the champion forever and there's more build-up with Aries chasing Hardy now, than Hardy chasing Aries, imo.
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Post by MARK-ISM on Oct 15, 2012 19:51:15 GMT -5
Lets be honest, Victory Road is in a few months...
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Post by "Living Legend" Duttanized on Oct 15, 2012 20:14:24 GMT -5
Lets be honest, Victory Road is in a few months... Well played sir. |
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Post by cordless2016 on Oct 15, 2012 20:43:14 GMT -5
Nobody is willing to let this play out? Goodness, everyone is already throwing their hands up and screaming about how horrible this is. It's just like Bound for Glory last year. Everyone bitched because Bobby Roode didn't go over Kurt Angle and I'll be damned, it worked out for the better. Bobby Roode became a major heel, held the championship for a long period of time, etc. This forum was all over TNA for not "doing the right thing", yet it all worked out for the better. Give it time before you throw TNA under the bus and scream how "crapty" they are. It's typical of this forum, I suppose. I don't see how Austin Aries was buried, either. Did you not hear the fans behind him? The boos that Jeff Hardy got? That says alot for Aries in the main event, more than a victory, in my opinion. You act like TNA is just going to drop him out of the entire world title picture. Aries is still as strong as he was months ago (with the fans) and now he looks strong leaving Bound for Glory, with the effort against Hardy. And before anything is said, I don't like that Hardy won anymore than you do... but this isn't a situation where the sky is falling. Aries wasn't going to be the champion forever and there's more build-up with Aries chasing Hardy now, than Hardy chasing Aries, imo. I still say Bobby should have won at BFG and he still could have turned heel on Storm and had the same effect, but thats a whole nother topic... I felt Aries was burried for months leading up to his title loss at BFG. He looked like an equal, if not better, than Roode after Booby had one of the best title runs in wreslting in years. Then Aries was dragged into the Aces&Eights thing and was made to look like a chump. He was getting punked out by them for weeks. Then with the lead up to BFG, Hardy was made to look superior to the champion, and Bully was getting the best of Aries as well. Nothing against Bully because I think hes one of the best characters in either company right now, but the champ is suppose to look strong (unless your Rey Mysertio). Even though the fans were cheering Aries over Hardy for months, TNA still booked Aries as a weak champ for quite a bit and it hurt his overall run to me. I know Hardy's contract is up soon, but it seems like a s****y way to try and apease Jeff. The guy isn't as over as TNA thinks, and he has always been an overrated performer. Jeff may have been big towards the end of his WWE run, but he hasn't had the same effect in TNA. With the crap he has pulled in the past, Jeff should have never come close to holding the world title again. It just bothers me that a great talent in Aries put over such an undeserving and overrated performer in Jeff Hardy. |
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Post by k5 on Oct 15, 2012 20:59:35 GMT -5
the writing for his run was absolute garbage. the matches were great.
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Oct 15, 2012 20:59:35 GMT -5
This is where I see TNA falling apart again. Devon is leading the Aces & 8's, Aries loses the title, and the Knockouts slipping away. I don't like this at all. The only good decision was giving RVD the X Division Title and we can only hope that leads to some good. They are dropping the ball a lot lately and it is flat out annoying.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Oct 15, 2012 23:18:23 GMT -5
This is where I see TNA falling apart again. Devon is leading the Aces & 8's, Aries loses the title, and the Knockouts slipping away. I don't like this at all. The only good decision was giving RVD the X Division Title and we can only hope that leads to some good. They are dropping the ball a lot lately and it is flat out annoying. Why do people keep assuming Devon is leading Aces and 8s and isnt just a member?? |
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Post by Ian from 616Entertainment. on Oct 15, 2012 23:32:06 GMT -5
Seriously Austin first few months were perfect, as TNA had him go over their top guy in Roode twice. Then everything seemed to fall apart. First Aries was made to look like a chump in the Aces&Eights storyline and then was made to look like crap leading up to BFG. Then top top it Aries had to put over the talentless Jeff Hardy. I don't know why TNA decided to book Aries as a weak champ after a strong first 2 months. TNA was doing so well for months and now to me they have flushed most of that down the toilet by burrying Aries to Hardy. Jeff has had so many second chances that I cannot count them anymore. Jeff never deserved to hold the world title again yet TNA just doesn't seem to learn its lesson. What do you guys think of Aries overall title run? Realized you couldn't be taken seriously right there. Figure of speech? Sure, use that excuse if you like. That sort of negativity and ignorance will lose you credibility ten times out of ten. I'm not going to take part in this thread any more. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2012 0:01:56 GMT -5
This is where I see TNA falling apart again. Devon is leading the Aces & 8's, Aries loses the title, and the Knockouts slipping away. I don't like this at all. The only good decision was giving RVD the X Division Title and we can only hope that leads to some good. They are dropping the ball a lot lately and it is flat out annoying. Why do people keep assuming Devon is leading Aces and 8s and isnt just a member?? this is the only time i will agree with you. surely tna would realize dvon cant be the leader...thatd be a huge disapointment.....101010 again. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2012 7:52:38 GMT -5
Some people are never happy.
His reign was hardly perfect, but it was a solid run. The truth of the matter is that TNA didn't want to build up another real major threat to him, aside from Hardy, and after Roode they only really had Ray to have him face off with, which he'd already done.
Aces & 8's didn't really make him look like a chump either. Did they jump him a few times? Sure... But they jumped everyone. Nobody put as much fight as Aries. And Aries managed to beat several of them up on more than one occasion and slaughtered one of their dudes on PPV.
As for the Devon thing, whether he's just a member or the leader, we haven't seen anything out of the group yet since it was revealed. The reveal went over huge, no matter if you want to give it credit or not and what happens from here on in will be the deciding factor. And let's face it, when has wrestling EVER had a payoff for a mysterious person angle and it been satisfactory? The answer is never.
Whether it's a WCW hummer driver, the higher power, Black Scorpion, who hit the Rock, etc, etc, etc. Nobody will ever be happy and at least this was different and a true surprise.
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Post by cordless2016 on Oct 16, 2012 12:21:14 GMT -5
Seriously Austin first few months were perfect, as TNA had him go over their top guy in Roode twice. Then everything seemed to fall apart. First Aries was made to look like a chump in the Aces&Eights storyline and then was made to look like crap leading up to BFG. Then top top it Aries had to put over the talentless Jeff Hardy. I don't know why TNA decided to book Aries as a weak champ after a strong first 2 months. TNA was doing so well for months and now to me they have flushed most of that down the toilet by burrying Aries to Hardy. Jeff has had so many second chances that I cannot count them anymore. Jeff never deserved to hold the world title again yet TNA just doesn't seem to learn its lesson. What do you guys think of Aries overall title run? Realized you couldn't be taken seriously right there. Figure of speech? Sure, use that excuse if you like. That sort of negativity and ignorance will lose you credibility ten times out of ten. I'm not going to take part in this thread any more. Did I upset Hardy fans over my opinion...If you like him cool. I've always seen him as overrated as hell. He can't wrestle worth a damn and is simply a spot fest freak (and seeing Jeff jump from high heights got old years ago). Matt was the far better in-ring performer of the two and better on the mic as well. He constantly botches moves and I don't understand why fans look past his short comings in the ring. I've seriously only been entertained by Jeff when he was w/ his brother back in 2000, and during his feud w/ Punk (which CM basically carried). To me, the guy is talentless. Maybe if you spent some time around here you'd see that I'm one of the few people who have been supporting TNA for years and have felt that their last year has been far better than the crap we get from the WWE. |
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