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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2012 21:53:02 GMT -5
When they actually fill the 3 hours correctly, I love it but when they fill it with nothing but squash matches and pointless in ring and backstage segments, I find it a chore to get through.
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Post by /X Metal Sorenges x "Mac Oh J~ on Dec 9, 2012 22:36:57 GMT -5
The only positive of the 3 hour Raw is for the CM Punk fans. So now they can hear CM Punk ramble on for 15 minutes in his promos of why he is the best in the world and semi shoot on things that the audience has no idea what he's talking about. #Patriot_RS. That's who it's all about haha
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Dec 9, 2012 22:43:58 GMT -5
Getting rid of 3 hour RAW's would be the best thing EVER.
3 hour RAW's have done NOTHING to add to the length of the matches or get lesser used talent any more TV time.
WWE uses the 3rd hour of RAW to show video packages, social media nonsense, and replays of the main segments from earlier in the night. As if the crap involving John Cena and AJ isn't PAINFUL enough to sit through the first time, they make us watch a replay at least one more time every night.
It makes the show totally unwatchable, which is why I have to watch it on DVR so I can fast forward through all that crap.
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Dec 10, 2012 3:12:29 GMT -5
I would rather get a 3-hour show where 45 minutes is recapping the other 2.25 hours than a 2-hour show where 45 minutes is recapping the other 1.25 hours... But really, they could be using their time far more efficiently. I would:
- Start every hour with a match - Recap the show for 5 minutes at 8:55, 9:55, 10:55 -- AND NOTHING ELSE. - Stop giving PPV quality matches on Raw every single week, and instead, use that time to develop the undercard as viable competitors (example: Zack Ryder and Dolph Ziggler can have a quality, competitive 10-minute match with Ziggler coming out on top as he builds momentum toward a PPV encounter instead of Cena beating Ziggler in a 15-minute match to hype another match between the two of them) - Have a title on the line every week; whether it be Divas, US, IC, World, WWE... and it doesn't even have to have any build either. If, for instance, Big Show defends the World title against Brodus Clay, and Clay puts up a good fight before losing, that makes Show, his title reign, and Brodus all look good. It also wouldn't hurt if a title changed hands surprisingly every once in a while.
These ideas are practical, and they give people a reason to watch and keep watching. Make fans care about every character you put on the show throughout the night, and they will won't change the channel. Right now, if we get a match that doesn't involve one or more of the main 15-20 characters, we know it will never amount to anything.
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Dec 10, 2012 3:23:18 GMT -5
What I don't get is I thought 3 hours was done so more guys get TV time and we get longer matches? That seemed to be the case at first but not lately. How is it guys like Zack Ryder & Brodus Clay made it on 2 hour RAW's but can't make it on the 3 hour RAW's most of the time?
The 3rd hour has been used for more Twitter/Tout plugs and a ton of recaps. Personally I can do without it. It's a lot of TV every week and I'm a life long wrestling fan. They just can't keep it interesting enough for 3 hours every week. I'm surprised it's lasted this long. I much preferred the 3 hour specials.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2012 3:29:48 GMT -5
3 hours is too much.
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Post by punksnotdead on Dec 10, 2012 12:01:28 GMT -5
I would rather get a 3-hour show where 45 minutes is recapping the other 2.25 hours than a 2-hour show where 45 minutes is recapping the other 1.25 hours... But really, they could be using their time far more efficiently. I would: - Start every hour with a match - Recap the show for 5 minutes at 8:55, 9:55, 10:55 -- AND NOTHING ELSE. - Stop giving PPV quality matches on Raw every single week, and instead, use that time to develop the undercard as viable competitors (example: Zack Ryder and Dolph Ziggler can have a quality, competitive 10-minute match with Ziggler coming out on top as he builds momentum toward a PPV encounter instead of Cena beating Ziggler in a 15-minute match to hype another match between the two of them) - Have a title on the line every week; whether it be Divas, US, IC, World, WWE... and it doesn't even have to have any build either. If, for instance, Big Show defends the World title against Brodus Clay, and Clay puts up a good fight before losing, that makes Show, his title reign, and Brodus all look good. It also wouldn't hurt if a title changed hands surprisingly every once in a while. These ideas are practical, and they give people a reason to watch and keep watching. Make fans care about every character you put on the show throughout the night, and they will won't change the channel. Right now, if we get a match that doesn't involve one or more of the main 15-20 characters, we know it will never amount to anything. These are all really easy and good ideas to implement imo. I'm a particularly big fan of using guys like Ryder to make other guys look good in competitive fashion. A guy can be a jobber, but still be in every match and fans will get behind him. Guys like Ryder, Santino, and even Tyson Kidd have that quality imo. I think Cena and Ziggler should have been kept away from each other in the ring altogether until the PPV. I just genuinely don't feel like WWE cares about character development anymore. They have no competition, no motivation to push, and they have a cookie cutter routine that gets them by. The ratings drop should be pushing them, but it doesn't seem to work that way. The more people dvr the show, the less they are watching commercials. USA makes their money on those commercial spots. If no one watches commercials, and the live ratings are down, then the income level falls as well. It's going to become a problem for WWE imo. Right now they are probably playing the, "wait till football is over and we'll rebound" card though. Which I don't think is correct to any great degree.
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Post by *LS_58* on Dec 15, 2012 21:08:05 GMT -5
i pvr it and just skip to the main event or anything involving the shield
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Post by WalterF on Dec 15, 2012 22:29:14 GMT -5
I love RAW, but I also agree 3 hours does seem to be a bit too much week in and week out on Mondays, especially since, as many of you say, the additional hour doesnt neccesarily (or usually) equate to more wrestling or exposure for talent, but rather more plugs, commercials, replays, etc.
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Post by Joe Delta on Dec 16, 2012 2:24:05 GMT -5
The only positive of the 3 hour Raw is for the CM Punk fans. So now they can hear CM Punk ramble on for 15 minutes in his promos of why he is the best in the world and semi shoot on things that the audience has no idea what he's talking about. You sir are my new best friend.
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Post by Next Man’s Yeeter on Dec 16, 2012 9:17:12 GMT -5
Have you seen definitive evidence that adding the additional hour has increased the amount of wrestling Yes. Every match seems to go on for hours now, which sucks because: No. They haven't improved storyline development at all. They just fill the three hour show with pointless filler matches, then repeat them fifty times until everyone's sick of them.
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