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Post by Sleazyness on Dec 9, 2012 23:02:54 GMT -5
Anyone else tired of the Aces and Eights thing?
It was really cool at first but this thing has been going on for a year
with only two members being revealed. Kind of boring to me now.
Its getting really boring to me as it seems to have been dragged out for way to long now.
Thoughts?
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Post by pxkgotosleep on Dec 9, 2012 23:07:42 GMT -5
As I said 10 minutes ago in another thread, it's not about WHO they are, it's about What they are. It's about what they represent underneath it all. They all take off their masks, whats the point? So you suddenly know who they are all and the mystique is gone.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2012 23:09:49 GMT -5
It's decent at best now. It was a unique idea though
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Post by k5 on Dec 9, 2012 23:22:36 GMT -5
drawn out sums it up.
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Post by RedwineRaider on Dec 10, 2012 0:39:48 GMT -5
It was really cool at first but this thing has been going on for a year with only two members being revealed. I agree with you that it's been drawn out, the Aces and 8's debuted on June 14th. This Thursday's Impact will be December 14th, making it six months since the angle started. Last time I checked, a year was 12 months.  |
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Post by deskjet on Dec 10, 2012 2:48:07 GMT -5
Tna storylines in general have gone from awesome to boring. I don't even get the point of aces and eights now. Aries is in an uninteresting feud. They dropped the ball with roode/storm. Aj's storyline is mucked up. And don't even get me started on how dumb this whole bubba/Brooke/hogan storyline is. It's just gotten boring again. Contrastly, I think wwe has picked up
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Dec 10, 2012 3:16:08 GMT -5
The storyline has honestly gone on about six months too long. You want to have Devon be the first reveal? Ok, but do it after two months, not eight. Then DOC... That's great, but TNA has to know that the internet -- a larger percentage of their fan base than the WWE's, I'd have to imagine -- realized he was a part of it half a year ago. He should have been revealed early on, too. From there, it shouldn't be more than 2 months or so before we get the final reveal on who all is involved and, more importantly, WHY. I think that is the biggest reason why this storyline has dragged out. They seem to have no purpose other than to cause anarchy. And in the world of professional wrestling, that doesn't seem to have much impact... no pun intended.
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Post by PhoeniX™: Valoween on Dec 10, 2012 5:21:50 GMT -5
The storyline has honestly gone on about six months too long. You want to have Devon be the first reveal? Ok, but do it after two months, not eight. Then DOC... That's great, but TNA has to know that the internet -- a larger percentage of their fan base than the WWE's, I'd have to imagine -- realized he was a part of it half a year ago. He should have been revealed early on, too. From there, it shouldn't be more than 2 months or so before we get the final reveal on who all is involved and, more importantly, WHY. I think that is the biggest reason why this storyline has dragged out. They seem to have no purpose other than to cause anarchy. And in the world of professional wrestling, that doesn't seem to have much impact... no pun intended. Devon's gonna be revealed in 2 months time?! |
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Post by pxkgotosleep on Dec 10, 2012 5:41:11 GMT -5
Tna storylines in general have gone from awesome to boring. I don't even get the point of aces and eights now. Aries is in an uninteresting feud. They dropped the ball with roode/storm. Aj's storyline is mucked up. And don't even get me started on how dumb this whole bubba/Brooke/hogan storyline is. It's just gotten boring again. Contrastly, I think wwe has picked upPretty sure your the only person who feels that way. Every other thread is about how WWE should scrap 3 hours and such. As long as your enjoying the product though, that's all that matters. No one else is interested in BullyRay/Brooke/Hogan? I think it's gonna get good. Does nobody remember Triple H/Stephanie/Vince? |
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Post by 0,Y on Dec 10, 2012 8:00:42 GMT -5
No one else is interested in BullyRay/Brooke/Hogan? I think it's gonna get good. Does nobody remember Triple H/Stephanie/Vince? The only difference between those 2 trios is that Trips/Steph/Vince are entertaining while both Hogans absolutely suck. Bully deserves better than this, he should be in the World Title picture |
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Post by Scott! on Dec 10, 2012 8:49:08 GMT -5
No one else is interested in BullyRay/Brooke/Hogan? I think it's gonna get good. Does nobody remember Triple H/Stephanie/Vince? The only difference between those 2 trios is that Trips/Steph/Vince are entertaining while both Hogans absolutely suck. Bully deserves better than this, he should be in the World Title picture Very all said mate, I think this is gonna be crap. |
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Post by punksnotdead on Dec 10, 2012 9:42:39 GMT -5
I think the problem is that the reveal of Garrett Bischoff and Wes Brisco is so predictable that it would have made more sense to just let the audience know. My problem right now is that it feels like Aces and 8's has no direction or motivation. What does keeping their identity a secret do for them? Would you be any more or less intrigued if Garrett and Wes were just wrestling as a part of A&8's with no masks on?
They have to give the stable meaning. What do they want, what are they after. They had the chance to sort of team A&8's with Roode but then they decided to have them attack the face and the heel. Leaving the audience clueless as to how they should react. I just think TNA needs to establish why we, the audience, should care about Aces and 8's. At first they were a threat to the TNA roster because they were outsiders. Now they are in the door but TNA is still running with the invaders from the outside approach, and it doesn't work.
I'm not a Jeff Jarrett fan, but I hope he is behind all of this in an effort to take "his" company back. That way at least all of the randomness can tie together through a singular motivation. He's the one guy that would make sense to me. That being said, it's still probably going to be Eric Bischoff.
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Post by deskjet on Dec 10, 2012 10:32:01 GMT -5
I think the problem is that the reveal of Garrett Bischoff and Wes Brisco is so predictable that it would have made more sense to just let the audience know. My problem right now is that it feels like Aces and 8's has no direction or motivation. What does keeping their identity a secret do for them? Would you be any more or less intrigued if Garrett and Wes were just wrestling as a part of A&8's with no masks on? They have to give the stable meaning. What do they want, what are they after. They had the chance to sort of team A&8's with Roode but then they decided to have them attack the face and the heel. Leaving the audience clueless as to how they should react. I just think TNA needs to establish why we, the audience, should care about Aces and 8's. At first they were a threat to the TNA roster because they were outsiders. Now they are in the door but TNA is still running with the invaders from the outside approach, and it doesn't work. I'm not a Jeff Jarrett fan, but I hope he is behind all of this in an effort to take "his" company back. That way at least all of the randomness can tie together through a singular motivation. He's the one guy that would make sense to me. That being said, it's still probably going to be Eric Bischoff. agreed on all points. And sadly at this time Jarret would make the most sense. |
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Post by deskjet on Dec 10, 2012 10:53:16 GMT -5
Tna storylines in general have gone from awesome to boring. I don't even get the point of aces and eights now. Aries is in an uninteresting feud. They dropped the ball with roode/storm. Aj's storyline is mucked up. And don't even get me started on how dumb this whole bubba/Brooke/hogan storyline is. It's just gotten boring again. Contrastly, I think wwe has picked upPretty sure your the only person who feels that way. Every other thread is about how WWE should scrap 3 hours and such. As long as your enjoying the product though, that's all that matters. No one else is interested in BullyRay/Brooke/Hogan? I think it's gonna get good. Does nobody remember Triple H/Stephanie/Vince? yea I've been enjoying it. They do give a bit too much programming but they are keeping stuff for the most part purposeful and entertaining. Which as has been stated here us becomng the problem again for tna. Give us a reason to care about hogan/bully, or aces and eights, or hardy's title reign. The biggests storylines in the company and I could care less either way what's going on because no purpose has been established. If bully is dating Brooke, so what? What are the implications other than daddy can't cut the chord. Aries heAt is lost, James storm, who should have won the title back is floundering around. I only compared tna to wwe in regards to the shield vs a and 8. One did it right the first time, the other has yet to figure it out, but thre's some time |
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Post by punksnotdead on Dec 10, 2012 13:19:27 GMT -5
Pretty sure your the only person who feels that way. Every other thread is about how WWE should scrap 3 hours and such. As long as your enjoying the product though, that's all that matters. No one else is interested in BullyRay/Brooke/Hogan? I think it's gonna get good. Does nobody remember Triple H/Stephanie/Vince? yea I've been enjoying it. They do give a bit too much programming but they are keeping stuff for the most part purposeful and entertaining. Which as has been stated here us becomng the problem again for tna. Give us a reason to care about hogan/bully, or aces and eights, or hardy's title reign. The biggests storylines in the company and I could care less either way what's going on because no purpose has been established. If bully is dating Brooke, so what? What are the implications other than daddy can't cut the chord. Aries heAt is lost, James storm, who should have won the title back is floundering around. I only compared tna to wwe in regards to the shield vs a and 8. One did it right the first time, the other has yet to figure it out, but thre's some time The Shield was done right because you have two guys with an immense amount of talent and internet fanfare around them and a legacy guy that could potentially end up a star as well. Rollins comes in with a similar amount of hype as Punk and Bryan, and Ambrose comes in with Mick Foley-esque mic skill and psychology. Plus, the Ambrose vs Rollins NXT/FCW match videos have made their rounds at this point. Those guys are exciting because they represent "the future" and they have finally arrived. With Aces and 8's, it's more about the mystery. We care less about who they are as individuals and more about what they represent as a group, which is what pxkgotosleep has been saying. So the mystery to me isn't who is wearing the mask, it's why are you wearing a mask and why are you here. TNA doesn't really seem to grasp that though from the way they have been booked imo. Even though it's about mystery we still need to be given enough to grasp onto as an audience. I wouldn't say WWE is better as a whole, because I still think Impact is a much better start to finish show, but The Shield is definitely the most exciting angle in wrestling right now for me. That being said, if WWE has Ryback squash The Shield then it could easily be all for not. The Shield is still very new so WWE has time to screw it up. I think they are headed towards giving them the tag titles though, which would be a big move for the group right out of the gate. Aces and 8's, for all the recent flaws, has still been somewhat interesting for nearly 7 months now. They've gotten fairly good longevity out of the group and we still haven't seen them pull back the curtain yet. Unfortunately, as an audience we have much shorter tension spans than we used to so we are less accepting of this type of an angle imo. It is getting to that sh*t or get off the pot point with fans from what I can tell. |
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Post by pxkgotosleep on Dec 10, 2012 14:34:19 GMT -5
Hogan finally trusts Bully Ray, Ray and Brooke are behind Aces and Eights. Bully Ray wins world title. Stephanie McMahon Hogan Era has begun!
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Post by Scotty on Dec 10, 2012 16:33:15 GMT -5
I think the problem is that the reveal of Garrett Bischoff and Wes Brisco is so predictable that it would have made more sense to just let the audience know. My problem right now is that it feels like Aces and 8's has no direction or motivation. What does keeping their identity a secret do for them? Would you be any more or less intrigued if Garrett and Wes were just wrestling as a part of A&8's with no masks on? They have to give the stable meaning. What do they want, what are they after. They had the chance to sort of team A&8's with Roode but then they decided to have them attack the face and the heel. Leaving the audience clueless as to how they should react. I just think TNA needs to establish why we, the audience, should care about Aces and 8's. At first they were a threat to the TNA roster because they were outsiders. Now they are in the door but TNA is still running with the invaders from the outside approach, and it doesn't work. I'm not a Jeff Jarrett fan, but I hope he is behind all of this in an effort to take "his" company back. That way at least all of the randomness can tie together through a singular motivation. He's the one guy that would make sense to me. That being said, it's still probably going to be Eric Bischoff. As much as I don't want him to return, Jarrett is the only thing that makes sense. Think about it, Hogan wanted Devon back badly, so why would he just turn his back on him instead of signing a regular contract? Wes Brisco already has a contract, so why is he going to turn on Angle and join Aces and Eights? The only logical answer would be Jarrett. |
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Dec 10, 2012 18:55:26 GMT -5
The storyline has honestly gone on about six months too long. You want to have Devon be the first reveal? Ok, but do it after two months, not eight. Then DOC... That's great, but TNA has to know that the internet -- a larger percentage of their fan base than the WWE's, I'd have to imagine -- realized he was a part of it half a year ago. He should have been revealed early on, too. From there, it shouldn't be more than 2 months or so before we get the final reveal on who all is involved and, more importantly, WHY. I think that is the biggest reason why this storyline has dragged out. They seem to have no purpose other than to cause anarchy. And in the world of professional wrestling, that doesn't seem to have much impact... no pun intended. Devon's gonna be revealed in 2 months time?! You get the point. |
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Post by BCizzle on Dec 11, 2012 14:30:50 GMT -5
They really need to bring in some bigger name guys or this whole thing is gonna be a huge bust. It was fun at first, but yes, it has gotten dull.
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Post by E N I G M A on Dec 11, 2012 15:20:20 GMT -5
Ken Anderson anyone?
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