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Post by @.@ Hempsterdance @.@ on Jan 3, 2013 20:38:20 GMT -5
He is sooo much better off with TNA, if he goes back to WWE he would more than likely burn out and relapse again. As for his artwork and music, hey if it makes him happy then he should be allowed to do it, who are we to say he shouldn't be allowed to do it just because some of us don't like it? I don't think anyone's saying he shouldn't do it. Just that it is terrible. If you put something of yours out there for all to see, you should be prepared for people to criticize it. His "paintings" are just simplistic pictures of his ing face. actually only a few paintings are pictures of his face. Have you seen every piece of artwork he has done? No? well then you cant say all of it is just his face. simply put im sure he expected criticism from everywhere but that's what makes an artist better
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2013 21:38:12 GMT -5
WWE doesn't need hardy .. TNA definitely does .. It definitely is more beneficial for Jeff to stay with TNA as much as I'd like him to come back to wwe one more Time
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Post by *LS_58* on Jan 3, 2013 22:04:59 GMT -5
He is sooo much better off with TNA, if he goes back to WWE he would more than likely burn out and relapse again. As for his artwork and music, hey if it makes him happy then he should be allowed to do it, who are we to say he shouldn't be allowed to do it just because some of us don't like it? I don't think anyone's saying he shouldn't do it. Just that it is terrible. If you put something of yours out there for all to see, you should be prepared for people to criticize it. His "paintings" are just simplistic pictures of his ing face. since when is it his face there just abstract cool looking faces
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Post by *LS_58* on Jan 3, 2013 22:17:18 GMT -5
He is sooo much better off with TNA, if he goes back to WWE he would more than likely burn out and relapse again. As for his artwork and music, hey if it makes him happy then he should be allowed to do it, who are we to say he shouldn't be allowed to do it just because some of us don't like it? I don't think anyone's saying he shouldn't do it. Just that it is terrible. If you put something of yours out there for all to see, you should be prepared for people to criticize it. His "paintings" are just simplistic pictures of his ing face. whoa look at that face painting
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Post by "Living Legend" Duttanized on Jan 3, 2013 22:44:53 GMT -5
Everyone here is just butt hurt they won't be getting a Jeff Hardy Mattel figure. Honestly, he's helping the wrestling industry by staying with TNA. TNA is helping him, I couldn't be happier for the guy. However, I do hope he drops the title.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2013 23:10:32 GMT -5
Well damn i am dissapoint.
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Post by JC Motors on Jan 3, 2013 23:23:15 GMT -5
He can stay on TNA for all I care. In fact, I'd probably just stop watching WWE for the time Jeff is in if he comes back. I agree he belongs in TNA
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2013 0:01:28 GMT -5
Are we really arguing over Jeff Hardy's art?
Jeff Hardy sucks. Eff him...and his aluminum foil/macaroni noodle art.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Jan 4, 2013 0:31:13 GMT -5
Are we really arguing over Jeff Hardy's art? Jeff Hardy sucks. Eff him...and his aluminum foil/macaroni noodle art. This made me laugh to tears.
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Post by J12 on Jan 4, 2013 0:39:20 GMT -5
They can have him.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2013 1:49:57 GMT -5
Works for me......
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Post by greenjack1992 on Jan 4, 2013 5:35:57 GMT -5
All I am saying is This is a Picasso This is a Jeff Hardy I would much rather have a Jeff Hardy painting on my wall than that Picasso.... The reason Picasso's is priced so steeply on name value is because his art revolutionised art! NO ONE (except perhaps Dali) was doing surrealist art before him and it was totally ground breaking. Everyone in the whole world was doing naturalist stuff so this was really really new. Jeff Hardy's work is nothing new or ground breaking nor is it anywhere near the top standard of what's already been done. His work will be forgotten and nothing will ever have been affected by it.
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Post by RSCTom on Jan 4, 2013 11:08:04 GMT -5
I'm blown away that people think WWE has nothing to gain from resigning Jeff Hardy. If you think a Hardy/Punk re-ignited feud wouldn't explode bigger than almost everything that's been going on over the past few years, you're kidding yourselves. I can't think of much anything else that could be slapped onto a plastic lunch box more successfully or quicker than that.
That having been said, it continues to be a real shame to me that people aren't enjoying him in TNA. He's done some pretty decent stuff that I never would've expected in the way he was being force-fed to us in WWE Cena-style. For all of their immensely stupid faults, somehow Jeff Hardy has been something they've been doing more or less right and enjoyably.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2013 11:36:04 GMT -5
I'm blown away that people think WWE has nothing to gain from resigning Jeff Hardy. If you think a Hardy/Punk re-ignited feud wouldn't explode bigger than almost everything that's been going on over the past few years, you're kidding yourselves. I can't think of much anything else that could be slapped onto a plastic lunch box more successfully or quicker than that. That having been said, it continues to be a real shame to me that people aren't enjoying him in TNA. He's done some pretty decent stuff that I never would've expected in the way he was being force-fed to us in WWE Cena-style. For all of their immensely stupid faults, somehow Jeff Hardy has been something they've been doing more or less right and enjoyably. I'm a huge Hardy mark and I just don't like what TNA is doing with him. The telekinetic powers aside, I just can't get into the story's they have him in.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jan 4, 2013 11:48:31 GMT -5
I'm blown away that people think WWE has nothing to gain from resigning Jeff Hardy. If you think a Hardy/Punk re-ignited feud wouldn't explode bigger than almost everything that's been going on over the past few years, you're kidding yourselves. I can't think of much anything else that could be slapped onto a plastic lunch box more successfully or quicker than that. That having been said, it continues to be a real shame to me that people aren't enjoying him in TNA. He's done some pretty decent stuff that I never would've expected in the way he was being force-fed to us in WWE Cena-style. For all of their immensely stupid faults, somehow Jeff Hardy has been something they've been doing more or less right and enjoyably. Bottom line, except for the VERY SMALL fan base of TNA.....people do not care about TNA. The majority of WWE fans I would say do NOT watch TNA or have very good knowledge of what is going on down there. It's like Sting.....WWE fans have been clamoring for him to come to WWE for YEARS but they don't watch him in TNA. They really know NOTHING about Sting except his WCW Legacy and the fact that he was "The Joker" almost 2 years ago. Just like Sting, a lot of WWE fans want Jeff Hardy back in WWE, but again, they won't watch TNA for him. Same with Kurt Angle, and it was the same with Kevin Nash, Christian, Booker T and Ric Flair. Ric Flair was seen as a joke by WWE fans when he went to TNA and it was just assumed he was embarrassing himself. He was given a hero's welcome by fans in the arena and the internet at the Slammy's. TNA can get some of WWE's biggest stars of the past, but it just doesn't seem like anybody is interested in them when they get to TNA. People like Hogan, Sting, Angle, Hardy and Ric Flair haven't or weren't able to make any positive "impact" on TNA's ratings or grow their fan base at all.....yet when Ric Flair stepped out on stage at the Slammy's the RAW rating rose by over a half a million viewers. It's almost staggering to think that so many people are dying for Sting on WWE, but they have no desire or interest to change their TV channel up or down a few clicks to see him on another channel. I think by all of the ratings information associated with WWE and TNA of guys who have been both places and the reaction their performances have been given by the fans of their work in both places.....the bottom line is that most people just do not care about TNA.
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Post by J12 on Jan 4, 2013 12:00:15 GMT -5
I'm blown away that people think WWE has nothing to gain from resigning Jeff Hardy. If you think a Hardy/Punk re-ignited feud wouldn't explode bigger than almost everything that's been going on over the past few years, you're kidding yourselves. I can't think of much anything else that could be slapped onto a plastic lunch box more successfully or quicker than that. That having been said, it continues to be a real shame to me that people aren't enjoying him in TNA. He's done some pretty decent stuff that I never would've expected in the way he was being force-fed to us in WWE Cena-style. For all of their immensely stupid faults, somehow Jeff Hardy has been something they've been doing more or less right and enjoyably. Bottom line, except for the VERY SMALL fan base of TNA.....people do not care about TNA. The majority of WWE fans I would say do NOT watch TNA or have very good knowledge of what is going on down there. It's like Sting.....WWE fans have been clamoring for him to come to WWE for YEARS but they don't watch him in TNA. They really know NOTHING about Sting except his WCW Legacy and the fact that he was "The Joker" almost 2 years ago. Just like Sting, a lot of WWE fans want Jeff Hardy back in WWE, but again, they won't watch TNA for him. Same with Kurt Angle, and it was the same with Kevin Nash, Christian, Booker T and Ric Flair. Ric Flair was seen as a joke by WWE fans when he went to TNA and it was just assumed he was embarrassing himself. He was given a hero's welcome by fans in the arena and the internet at the Slammy's. TNA can get some of WWE's biggest stars of the past, but it just doesn't seem like anybody is interested in them when they get to TNA. People like Hogan, Sting, Angle, Hardy and Ric Flair haven't or weren't able to make any positive "impact" on TNA's ratings or grow their fan base at all.....yet when Ric Flair stepped out on stage at the Slammy's the RAW rating rose by over a half a million viewers. It's almost staggering to think that so many people are dying for Sting on WWE, but they have no desire or interest to change their TV channel up or down a few clicks to see him on another channel. I think by all of the ratings information associated with WWE and TNA of guys who have been both places and the reaction their performances have been given by the fans of their work in both places.....the bottom line is that most people just do not care about TNA. I think this is true, and though it's sort of a completely different topic, it's worth mentioning. It seems as though TNA just can't get out of their own way. For every brilliant thing they do and every five star match they book, they come up with some ridiculous Russo-fueled angle that would even make late WCW fans groan. They've been stagnant for years, and short of another major boom in wrestling as a whole, they're never going to climb any higher. WWE is the recognized brand and people want to see their favorite wrestlers compete there. Until TNA can find a way to get themselves mainstream recognition, to the average viewer, their stars are completely invisible. I usually fall under that very same category. There is a ton of talent that I love in TNA. I watched Impact all summer long and, for the most part, enjoyed it. When fall came around and football started back up, and the networks started premiering their lineups, however, it quickly got lost in the shuffle and before I knew it, I was deleting it from my DVR without so much as a second thought. I stopped watching again two weeks before Bound For Glory, and didn't even care enough to look at the results until weeks later. There's just something about it that doesn't reach me. As for Jeff Hardy, I've said it before, I'll say it a million times. He's a liability. I don't care if he's been clean for two years. He pulled one of the most embarrassing stunts in professional wrestling history. He's lucky that TNA accepted him back with open arms, but they have the luxury of doing so because, again, there's hardly anyone watching. What if he went back to WWE, fell off the wagon, went on a bender, and did the same thing at a WWE Pay-Per-View? Too much risk, not enough reward.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jan 4, 2013 12:11:28 GMT -5
Bottom line, except for the VERY SMALL fan base of TNA.....people do not care about TNA. The majority of WWE fans I would say do NOT watch TNA or have very good knowledge of what is going on down there. It's like Sting.....WWE fans have been clamoring for him to come to WWE for YEARS but they don't watch him in TNA. They really know NOTHING about Sting except his WCW Legacy and the fact that he was "The Joker" almost 2 years ago. Just like Sting, a lot of WWE fans want Jeff Hardy back in WWE, but again, they won't watch TNA for him. Same with Kurt Angle, and it was the same with Kevin Nash, Christian, Booker T and Ric Flair. Ric Flair was seen as a joke by WWE fans when he went to TNA and it was just assumed he was embarrassing himself. He was given a hero's welcome by fans in the arena and the internet at the Slammy's. TNA can get some of WWE's biggest stars of the past, but it just doesn't seem like anybody is interested in them when they get to TNA. People like Hogan, Sting, Angle, Hardy and Ric Flair haven't or weren't able to make any positive "impact" on TNA's ratings or grow their fan base at all.....yet when Ric Flair stepped out on stage at the Slammy's the RAW rating rose by over a half a million viewers. It's almost staggering to think that so many people are dying for Sting on WWE, but they have no desire or interest to change their TV channel up or down a few clicks to see him on another channel. I think by all of the ratings information associated with WWE and TNA of guys who have been both places and the reaction their performances have been given by the fans of their work in both places.....the bottom line is that most people just do not care about TNA. I think this is true, and though it's sort of a completely different topic, it's worth mentioning. It seems as though TNA just can't get out of their own way. For every brilliant thing they do and every five star match they book, they come up with some ridiculous Russo-fueled angle that would even make late WCW fans groan. They've been stagnant for years, and short of another major boom in wrestling as a whole, they're never going to climb any higher. WWE is the recognized brand and people want to see their favorite wrestlers compete there. Until TNA can find a way to get themselves mainstream recognition, to the average viewer, their stars are completely invisible. I usually fall under that very same category. There is a ton of talent that I love in TNA. I watched Impact all summer long and, for the most part, enjoyed it. When fall came around and football started back up, and the networks started premiering their lineups, however, it quickly got lost in the shuffle and before I knew it, I was deleting it from my DVR without so much as a second thought. I stopped watching again two weeks before Bound For Glory, and didn't even care enough to look at the results until weeks later. There's just something about it that doesn't reach me. As for Jeff Hardy, I've said it before, I'll say it a million times. He's a liability. I don't care if he's been clean for two years. He pulled one of the most embarrassing stunts in professional wrestling history. He's lucky that TNA accepted him back with open arms, but they have the luxury of doing so because, again, there's hardly anyone watching. What if he went back to WWE, fell off the wagon, went on a bender, and did the same thing at a WWE Pay-Per-View? Too much risk, not enough reward. I agree with you 100%....but I'm also going to play devils advocate for a minute. I've always been as tough on Jeff Hardy for his personal problems as anybody....but what happened that night can only be blamed on Jeff Hardy so much. You ask the question "What if" he were to pull something like that if he were to ever return to WWE? If he were in WWE and there was even the slightest question of his condition to compete....WWE would NEVER let it get so far as to allow him to even step foot in the ring on a live PPV in front of fans. The fact that there were obvious concerns over his condition and Dixie Carter, Eric Bischoff and Hulk Hogan allowed him to actually stumble to the ring and try and do a match while clearly under the influence of something....it just goes to show that everything that's wrong with TNA is the problem of their own mismanagement. Every reason why people are watching TNA, every reason why people will watch WWE for certain guys but have no interest in the same guys in TNA, every reason why the entire company as a whole is presented as unimportant....it's Dixie Carter, Eric Bischoff and Hulk Hogan's fault. Look at the piss poor job they've done. When your own HOME GROWN TALENT is desired more by WWE fans than your own fans you know you've completely lost focus. This is why everyone who criticized Vince McMahon for not pushing WCW and ECW guys over his own home grown WWF/WWE guys was dead wrong the whole time. It worked for Vince McMahon. Dixie Carter pushing ex WCW and WWE guys over her own home grown TNA talent that she SHOULD be promoting and turning into the stars of tomorrow is NOT working for her and her company.
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Post by TheBadGuyChico on Jan 4, 2013 12:16:57 GMT -5
Everyone saying his artwork sucks is pretentious. Who debates art? Maybe some high society tools who like feeling sophisticated.
Beauty is eye of the beholder, there is no valid opinion when it comes to art. A single picture can be awe inspiring for one individual and terrible to another. I can respect another person's interpretation because i know that there is nothing factual about art.
That said i see no appeal in what most people think of as '' high art''.
My favorite painters are by Jeff Hardy and Marilyn Manson. I love their odd,surreal, twisted, art. I especially enjoy the reoccuring themes in their work. But their styles already have appeal to me, i wouldn't expect someone who doesn't even like these guys in the first place to dig their creations.
The IWC has a huge issue with Hardy and it's strange. Maybe everybody is butthurt that he was a bigger merch seller and successful babyface than CM Punk. CM Punk for all of his success has never achieved the popularity of Hardy.
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Post by Johnny Wrestling on Jan 4, 2013 13:00:16 GMT -5
He seems comfortable in TNA, and is their champion, doubt he'd just walk out on them after they gave him such a huge second chance with the company. Plus the schedule has to be very cushy considering he now has a kid, at this stage in his life, he's very wealthy too, he really doesn't need WWE. Really don't get where all the hate is coming from, no doubt selfishness is the root of it though, get over yourselves.Really? It's so simple. He definitely doesn't care about the fans or his job enough as you can see, so why should we care about him? As one of the YouTube comments on that video read: With the difference that I can't stand him.
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Post by RSCTom on Jan 4, 2013 14:05:44 GMT -5
The 'doesn't care' argument doesn't really work for me. If he were to show up under the WWE umbrella there's no doubt in my mind that entire situation would be a 'bygones be bygones' thing from most people and they'd eat up anything thrown at them.
Guess it does boil down to rabid company loyalty.
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