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Post by Triple S on Jan 4, 2013 13:00:53 GMT -5
January 4th, 2010, TNA Wrestling iMPACT! started going head to head LIVE with Monday Night RAW. People were expecting another Monday Night War, but we all know how well that turned out. Return of Shannon Moore and Jeff Hardy to the company, along with the in-ring return of Hulk Hogan!
So, what were your thoughts going in and what are your thoughts now? Was this good for the company, did it help or hurt them? Also, what booking ideas (if any) do you have that you think would've saved the company from the loss to the WWE? Very curious to hear your guys' thoughts, as I was extremely excited for what could have been.
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Post by LtD73 on Jan 4, 2013 13:19:32 GMT -5
3 years ago
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Post by Triple S on Jan 4, 2013 13:34:09 GMT -5
Knew it felt longer ago than that. Haha
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Post by marino13 on Jan 4, 2013 13:35:04 GMT -5
It was a bad idea in general. It reminded me of a little brother who thought he was big enough to take on their older brother. Only to get beat back into reality. Wish they had just left it well enough alone, cause it made them look bad.
Problem was Hogan thought his name only was enough to build the company around. Enough to take Vince's empire down. And clearly it was not. I will give Hogan credit though, He's stuck around much longer than I expected.
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Post by 0,Y on Jan 4, 2013 13:40:29 GMT -5
I think it helped them to see how good they can be if they go all out. Of course they couldn't do a 4th of January show every week but nevertheless it helped them.
I'm not too much into rebooking shows but one thing they should have never done is getting rid of the six-sided ring. It not so much a part of booking and probably wouldn't have helped them do better in the Monday Night War but it was a big part of TNAs identity.
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Post by marino13 on Jan 4, 2013 13:56:11 GMT -5
I think it helped them to see how good they can be if they go all out. Of course they couldn't do a 4th of January show every week but nevertheless it helped them. I'm not too much into rebooking shows but one thing they should have never done is getting rid of the six-sided ring. It not so much a part of booking and probably wouldn't have helped them do better in the Monday Night War but it was a big part of TNAs identity. Agreed. I think they should have kept the 6 sided ring. It was original. Unique. And then saved the money they gave Hogan to sign new X-Division, Knockouts, & Tag Teams from around the world. All the things WWE wasn't focused on at the time. Be a real alternative. But it seems as though Hogan/Bischoff was determined to make them WWE lite. Which is unfortunate. |
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Post by punksnotdead on Jan 4, 2013 14:32:55 GMT -5
I'm still very much looking forward to the day when this Hogan/Bischoff nightmare will end. Hogan and Bischoff came in and nothing changed ratings-wise. What more proof do you need that they are completely unnecessary and a giant waste of money. Then, they both got their kids a job... Had TNA unleashed 1/4/10 as something completely different from WWE, with homegrown talent, future stars, and exciting matches, then people might have latched on. However, what we got was garbage. I would trade everything from the past 3 years if I thought we could get a chance to see just a glimpse of Paul Heyman's vision of TNA. The most exciting and talented two guys on TNA's roster are Austin Aries and Bobby Roode. So I will say, at least they figured that out over time. Seems like Bruce Prichard, more than anyone they have brought in, has made the biggest difference backstage. Imagine TNA with just Lagana and Prichard, without Bishcoff and Hogan still trying to get their family over. I tend to think it'd be an amazing show. Bringing back Jeff Hardy was also one of the few smart things TNA did at that time, but they also sunk money into Flair, Matt Hardy, Val Venis, the  ing Nasty Boys, and essentially pushed AJ Styles out as top talent. They did push Russo out as well, a necessary evil that was great for the company. TNA still has the chance to be the true alternative to WWE. Guys like Kenny King, Aries, Roode, Storm and Joe, Bad Influence, that's a group of guys who serve as an alternative to WWE. The problem is that the show is still plagued with that cheap WWE feel to it. Stuff like Aces and 8's, Brook and Hulk Hogan's Springer drama, Bully Ray being wasted, the X-Division taking a backseat, RVD being the anchor of an X-Division that has talented young guys, back to having only 3 tag teams, and it just all feels tired to me. I'm probably unusually frustrated because I thought the way they handled Sting and the Aces and 8's was particularly embarrassing last night, but it's like TNA has so many great moving parts that if it could all come together it would be amazing. Instead, we continue to see them waste money and focus on the wrong guys. |
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Post by "Living Legend" Duttanized on Jan 4, 2013 16:27:06 GMT -5
I can never forget how they completely belittled Desmond Wolfe.
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Post by specterkev on Jan 4, 2013 17:01:45 GMT -5
I support TNA... but when they said they were going ehad to head. I kept saying to my borther,..that they are not ready... I knew it was not gonna end good... but at least they pulled out before it got too bad..
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Post by Scotty on Jan 4, 2013 20:30:27 GMT -5
I think it was good for TNA. Basically it showed them that they weren't at the time good enough to compete with WWE and they have to strive to become a better company to actually stand a chance against WWE.
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Post by southpark on Jan 4, 2013 21:45:36 GMT -5
I really thought it was going to be a big change. If TNA actually offered an alternative and showcased the X-Division, Tag Teams, and skilled wrestlers like Roode, Styles, ect. i honestly think the landscape of pro wrestling would be different today. Their biggest mistake was trying to become the WWE instead of trying to compete against them.
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Post by tbennett5438 on Jan 5, 2013 2:15:20 GMT -5
I support TNA... but when they said they were going ehad to head. I kept saying to my borther,..that they are not ready... I knew it was not gonna end good... but at least they pulled out before it got too bad.. When are they going to be ready? |
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Post by AlexWestCollects on Jan 5, 2013 3:03:02 GMT -5
I was so pumped for that Impact. But tbh its really been a wash. Tna is filled with hard to follow story lines and misuse of talent (how many guys where in the main story line and then a month later they were no longer with the company). It feels so minor league watching them in that stupid impact zone. I wish they would either go for it and try to build the brand, take the show on the road and do it live. If not and they are happy where they're at then stop taking shots at WWE and be their own company. If they have anything over WWE is that TNA puts on real good wrestling matches.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2013 14:16:42 GMT -5
Three years ago I was excited to see how TNA would do with having Hulk Hogan in it, in fact I was so excited I bought the TNA Genesis PPV, and I was immediately disappointed with the way the show was going. Bringing back Sean Morely, The Nasty Boys, letting the Suicide gimmick die, as well as Homicides career among others. Then they did the unthinkable and took out the heart of TNA the 6 sided ring and went back to basics.
Fast forward 3 years, I say TNA has improved a great deal and maybe they jumped the gun on the head to head with WWE, I think they should try again except compete with Smackdown don't try to take on the killer show that RAW has become. The product has gotten a lot better, stories are easier to read out from week to week and they still have ratings that fluctuate due to having taped episodes a month in advance. But if they taped once a week like Smackdown does they could very well topple the Smackdown brand and grow as a company much like WCW did.
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Post by Matt Culture on Jan 8, 2013 14:35:36 GMT -5
My three biggest problems with that show
Ex WWE guys who were brought in and never signed.....Like Sean Morelly, playing poker. etc
Bishoff trying to break down the 4th wall, by talking about throwing out the format, and re writing segments during a backstage segment
Jeff Hardy, Orlando Johnson, Shannon Moore, Ric Flair. the debuts felt a bit rushed that night
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Post by greenjack1992 on Jan 17, 2013 21:43:19 GMT -5
Bret Hart was returning to WWE that night for the first time since the Montreal Screwjob. There was NO WAY TNA were going to be able to pull anything or anyone out to compete with that. Regardless, there was no way on any given week that TNA were ready to take on WWE in a ratings war. They were getting piss poor ratings on their Thursday shows when they only had ing Superstars to contend with, and they were going up against RAW?! With Bubba The Lovesponge and the Nasty Boyz?! |
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Post by TheBadGuyChico on Jan 18, 2013 13:31:31 GMT -5
People seem to be forgetting that the 1/4 Impact did a 1.5 rating! People tuned in to see the NWO reunion. That segment went head to head with Hart's return and did a damn good number. Even celebs were tweeting about the Hall,Nash, and Hogan.
TNA's booking is the reason the war wasn't a success. They made a big loud noise and everybody looked over at TNA, they failed to keep them.
TNA's best bet and i really believe this, was to bring Hogan in as a heel and reunite the New World Order. Under the Wolfpac name of course. People wanted to see it, the rating proved it.
The Wolfpac should've taken over TNA and ''admitted'' live on television that Mcmahon sent them to WCW to destroy it and that TNA was going to go down the same way.
This is nothing unique, or even special. But it would've drawn and gotten TNA 1000x more interest.
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Post by marino13 on Jan 18, 2013 15:24:22 GMT -5
People seem to be forgetting that the 1/4 Impact did a 1.5 rating! People tuned in to see the NWO reunion. That segment went head to head with Hart's return and did a damn good number. Even celebs were tweeting about the Hall,Nash, and Hogan. TNA's booking is the reason the war wasn't a success. They made a big loud noise and everybody looked over at TNA, they failed to keep them. TNA's best bet and i really believe this, was to bring Hogan in as a heel and reunite the New World Order. Under the Wolfpac name of course. People wanted to see it, the rating proved it. The Wolfpac should've taken over TNA and ''admitted'' live on television that Mcmahon sent them to WCW to destroy it and that TNA was going to go down the same way. This is nothing unique, or even special. But it would've drawn and gotten TNA 1000x more interest. Well the following week's rating were down. Just cause some tuned in to see the nWo the first week doesn't necessarily mean they would have all tuned in each week. Remember a nostalgia run is only good for so long. Milk it too much and fans generally backlash. And had the nWo came out and claimed Vince sent them, then Vince would most likely filed a lawsuit against TNA just like he did when wCw claimed the same thing. |
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