xsailor
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Post by xsailor on Feb 28, 2013 15:55:12 GMT -5
Meh, guess we'll see.
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Post by Joey Cush on Feb 28, 2013 16:15:33 GMT -5
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Post by marino13 on Feb 28, 2013 16:19:55 GMT -5
Um... Yes, Please!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2013 16:51:18 GMT -5
please put nxt on the network. thats all i ask for
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Post by HHH316 on Feb 28, 2013 16:52:03 GMT -5
I said more than a year ago I would get it, & that was before live PPVs were being mentioned. That just is a bonus. Just take my money already!
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Post by jacobdude1357 on Feb 28, 2013 16:53:55 GMT -5
As long as the PPVs are live and the price tag stays around $15, you can sign me up.
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Post by Bubba Ray DJ on Feb 28, 2013 18:47:29 GMT -5
I'm probably in on 12.99 a month...if it includes PPV's.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Feb 28, 2013 19:20:04 GMT -5
The pay-per-views are $40 or more currently, right? They're obviously not going to broadcast them live -- as well as a month's worth of other content -- for $15.
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Post by BCizzle on Feb 28, 2013 22:58:12 GMT -5
The pay-per-views are $40 or more currently, right? They're obviously not going to broadcast them live -- as well as a month's worth of other content -- for $15. Yeah, I don't quite understand the logistics of their plan. Then again, we've heard about the WWE Network for a long time and nothing has come to pass. They do show the PPVs six months later on WWE Classics on Demand (except Wrestlemania is one year later), so if they are going to raise the price from $8 a month to $15 they are going to have to give us something for that extra cash. But I feel like this network is still a long ways away - I wonder if we will ever get to see that WWE Legends House - or if it's even worth watching.
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Post by hbkrules on Feb 28, 2013 23:24:36 GMT -5
The pay-per-views are $40 or more currently, right? They're obviously not going to broadcast them live -- as well as a month's worth of other content -- for $15. It's funny when someone says "obviously " and is completely wrong The network is good for wwe bc it'll be a guaranteed 180 per subscriber per year. Not that many people spend that much per year on non wm ppvs so it's generating more cash for wwe. Current off brand shows get less than 200000 buys. If the network grts millions of subscribers at 180 a year it will more than make up the difference. Also almost all the subscribers will buy wm bc they are used to seeing the ppvs.
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Post by J12 on Feb 28, 2013 23:34:41 GMT -5
The pay-per-views are $40 or more currently, right? They're obviously not going to broadcast them live -- as well as a month's worth of other content -- for $15. It's funny when someone says "obviously " and is completely wrong The network is good for wwe bc it'll be a guaranteed 180 per subscriber per year. Not that many people spend that much per year on non wm ppvs so it's generating more cash for wwe. Current off brand shows get less than 200000 buys. If the network grts millions of subscribers at 180 a year it will more than make up the difference. Also almost all the subscribers will buy wm bc they are used to seeing the ppvs. I think this is a logistically sound way of looking at it. Given their projections, they must see this route as being a good move financially. They also mentioned continuing to offer the Pay-Per-Views on an "a la carte" basis, meaning they could still generate buy rates. A lot of us here are perfect examples. In the last few years, on average, I purchase two Pay-Per-Views a year. One of them is Wrestlemania, so let's eliminate that from the equation entirely. So, even if I purchase two additional shows, WWE is (in effect) getting $90 a year from me, not including Wrestlemania, and minus whatever fees the cable companies retain. Give me the network at $13/$15 a month, and WWE is guaranteed $156/$180 from me a year. A lot of other people are in very similar situations that I am. The only place they really lose is the households that purchase a good number of events per year. I'd be willing to bet they can make up for that loss with the gained monthly subscribers. If they're really serious about this model, I'm sure they've scrutinized every minute detail and are confident in its ability to outperform Pay-Per-View numbers.
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Post by NameRedacted™ on Feb 28, 2013 23:37:02 GMT -5
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Post by gawd6sic6™ on Mar 1, 2013 1:12:29 GMT -5
It's funny when someone says "obviously " and is completely wrong The network is good for wwe bc it'll be a guaranteed 180 per subscriber per year. Not that many people spend that much per year on non wm ppvs so it's generating more cash for wwe. Current off brand shows get less than 200000 buys. If the network grts millions of subscribers at 180 a year it will more than make up the difference. Also almost all the subscribers will buy wm bc they are used to seeing the ppvs. I think this is a logistically sound way of looking at it. Given their projections, they must see this route as being a good move financially. They also mentioned continuing to offer the Pay-Per-Views on an "a la carte" basis, meaning they could still generate buy rates. A lot of us here are perfect examples. In the last few years, on average, I purchase two Pay-Per-Views a year. One of them is Wrestlemania, so let's eliminate that from the equation entirely. So, even if I purchase two additional shows, WWE is (in effect) getting $90 a year from me, not including Wrestlemania, and minus whatever fees the cable companies retain. Give me the network at $13/$15 a month, and WWE is guaranteed $156/$180 from me a year. A lot of other people are in very similar situations that I am. The only place they really lose is the households that purchase a good number of events per year. I'd be willing to bet they can make up for that loss with the gained monthly subscribers. If they're really serious about this model, I'm sure they've scrutinized every minute detail and are confident in its ability to outperform Pay-Per-View numbers. i think thats exactly it... they would kinda lose money from me.. i buy all the ppv's as an excuse to get all the friends to my house once a month... but i bet there are WAY more people like you than like myself...
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Post by Irish Wrestling Entertainment on Mar 1, 2013 1:46:43 GMT -5
"McMahon says "have ability" to go beyond PG on Network depending on time of day to reach broader fanbase & lapsed fans." Lapsed fans wouldn't be watching the network.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2013 2:18:34 GMT -5
Exciting, hope theres a crap ton of oldschool stuff to watch and not just stupid crap like "Cooking with The Big Show"
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Post by Will on Mar 1, 2013 9:18:48 GMT -5
I dont think i will be buying it
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2013 10:04:19 GMT -5
Not that it would apply to me in the UK, but if I'm understanding it right, I wouldn't likely pay a monthly subscription for what is sounding like just replays of Raw, SmackDown! and PPV's... I wouldn't see the point if I had seen them all once already.
I'd have them all recorded on Sky+ anyway, so it seems a pointless subscription for my interests.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Mar 1, 2013 20:46:34 GMT -5
The pay-per-views are $40 or more currently, right? They're obviously not going to broadcast them live -- as well as a month's worth of other content -- for $15. It's funny when someone says "obviously " and is completely wrong The network is good for wwe bc it'll be a guaranteed 180 per subscriber per year. Not that many people spend that much per year on non wm ppvs so it's generating more cash for wwe. Current off brand shows get less than 200000 buys. If the network grts millions of subscribers at 180 a year it will more than make up the difference. Also almost all the subscribers will buy wm bc they are used to seeing the ppvs. It's funny that you think millions of people would subscribe. You know who'd subscribe? The 200,000 people who already buy the PPVs at $40, because they're the people who care about the PPVs. And maybe that same number again, because it's a better deal and they're kinda interested. Considering that in this hypothetical scenario, the price is being reduced by a third, and they have all the additional costs of running the network and producing all the other programming for it -- which would be astronomical -- selling twice as many PPVs at a third of the price would not work out well. Do you seriously think that millions of people would subscribe to a WWE channel? On average, about four million people a week watch Raw. FOR FREE. Do you seriously think that more than 25% of the TV audience is going to buy the network? If the WWE network got off the ground and that was the business model, Vince would actually be XFLing his core product.
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Post by hbkrules on Mar 1, 2013 23:09:29 GMT -5
It's funny when someone says "obviously " and is completely wrong The network is good for wwe bc it'll be a guaranteed 180 per subscriber per year. Not that many people spend that much per year on non wm ppvs so it's generating more cash for wwe. Current off brand shows get less than 200000 buys. If the network grts millions of subscribers at 180 a year it will more than make up the difference. Also almost all the subscribers will buy wm bc they are used to seeing the ppvs. It's funny that you think millions of people would subscribe. You know who'd subscribe? The 200,000 people who already buy the PPVs at $40, because they're the people who care about the PPVs. And maybe that same number again, because it's a better deal and they're kinda interested. Considering that in this hypothetical scenario, the price is being reduced by a third, and they have all the additional costs of running the network and producing all the other programming for it -- which would be astronomical -- selling twice as many PPVs at a third of the price would not work out well. Do you seriously think that millions of people would subscribe to a WWE channel? On average, about four million people a week watch Raw. FOR FREE. Do you seriously think that more than 25% of the TV audience is going to buy the network? If the WWE network got off the ground and that was the business model, Vince would actually be XFLing his core product. Gotta love when an Internet smart guy thinks he knows more about the financials of a major corp than people being paid millions to do the same job. People like myself and the other posters in this thread are very common. We buy one or two ppvs a year. Now with the network they will be making much more off of us. Wwe estimates 1-2 million subscribers (but I'm sure you've done all the research do they are wrong about that also hahah) Also huge mistake saying 4 million people watch every week. 1. that number doesn't include viewers outside the US which is huge!! (And the network is being launched internationally so your logic is already dead) 2. It doesn't include dvr or Hulu viewers 3. When you combine main event, Saturday slam and smack down wwe has a much much larger audience than 4 mil a week ( the Saturday show and smack down both have unique viewers that don't necessarily watch raw according to the numbers) But financials aside when they air the ppvs live ill be sure to message you since you said it will obviously never happen.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Mar 2, 2013 0:52:51 GMT -5
Gotta love when an Internet smart guy thinks he knows more about the financials of a major corp than people being paid millions to do the same job. People like myself and the other posters in this thread are very common. We buy one or two ppvs a year. Now with the network they will be making much more off of us. Wwe estimates 1-2 million subscribers (but I'm sure you've done all the research do they are wrong about that also hahah) Gotta love when an Internet smart guy thinks that what he specifically likes is the same as good business and that he represents every consumer ever.Wait, are these people getting paid millions to do the job different than the people who were getting paid millions to do the job who promised to launch this network this time last year and failed to do so because they were clueless? Whoopsy. The network isn't even being launched domestically anytime soon, son, and it's already a year behind schedule. Internationally is a pipe dream. But keep dreaming - or if I'm wrong, please fill me in on these international partners already committed to carrying the WWE network. It doesn't count illegal streamers either. It includes people who are committed enough to watch Raw on USA Network live every Monday -- the section of the audience that are big enough fans to order a WWE network. It's very cute that you think all the shows have separate viewers and nobody watches both Raw and Smackdown. I remember when WWE tried pretending that once to make it seem like their overall audience was bigger than it is, and everyone laughed. Yes I'm sure all those Saturday Morning Slam-viewing parents will be popping down $15 a month for a network purely because their kids watch half an hour of WWE on a Saturday morning. Especially when they find out about the non-PG content. That'll really bring in all those unique Saturday Morning Slam viewers. Be sure to message me from your front row seats at the 2013 WBF Championship too, or at halftime at the XFL Million Dollar game 2014. But keep your phone switched off at the theater during the latest hit WWE movie. It might take me a while to reply too, I'll be at the other end of Fantasy Island buying all the rare WWE toys for $1 each.
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