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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Apr 16, 2013 1:01:46 GMT -5
Last Thursday's Impact scored a 0.9. I first heard about this rating on the Don Tony and Kevin Castle show, but since I bet I would get heat for mentioning that I heard about it there, I read about the rating on www.cagesideseats.com/tna-impact/2013/4/13/4219784/tna-impact-ratings-the-lowest-of-the-year-for-april-11-show-despite-big-promotional-push Something I found funny was that Don Tony mentioned that the "TNA kool-aid drinkers" as he likes to say, were mentioning that maybe the reason the ratings went down this week was because the fans were burned out from WrestleMania. I found this funny because just as I was reading this article, the person said, and I quote, "It's hard to explain this one, but with WrestleMania having come and gone, it's possible fans are just burned out." Now I think that this is the worst excuse I have ever heard about the ratings being down for Impact since the excuse Dixie made when TNA had their lowest rating ever on Twitter that since HBK retired on RAW was the reason the rating went down, or when they got low ratings when the Olympics were on that it was cause the Olympics. Now, I am liking some of what TNA is doing, match wise, but the only excuse there is as to why the ratings were bad on Impact (excluding the day they got a low rating when they moved to 8 pm, which I excused that one time because some people might have forgotten that they moved time slots) is that fans were not interested in watching the show. Now for a live episode, I expected a 1.0, 1.1. I remember when they moved time slots, either Dixie or some executive from Spike mentioned that they moved time slots because they thought there were more viewers available at 8 pm. Well, where are the extra fans, cause the ratings have not improved at all. For anyone who might defend TNA saying that maybe the fans being burned out cause of WrestleMania being the reason the ratings were down, I would like to do the same thing Don Tony did and that's to show the ratings of Impact from the show before and show after WrestleManias 24-28 and compare the ratings there: WM 24 - March 30, 2008: iMPACT! (March 27 2008): 1.0 [Live iMPACT!] iMPACT! (April 3 2008): 1.1 WM 25 - April 5, 2009: April 2, 2009 1.3 April 9, 2009 1.3 WM 26 - March 28, 2010 March 22, 2010 0.86 March 29, 2010 0.56 WM 27 - April 3, 2011 March 31, 2011 - 1.18 April 7, 2011 - 1.15 WM 28 - April 1, 2012 March 29, 2012 - 1.05 April 5, 2012 - 1.12 WM 29 - April 7, 2013 April 4, 2013 - 1.10 April 11, 2013 - 0.9 Now, other than March 29, 2010 episode of Impact (not counting April 7, 2011 since it wasn't a huge drop), the ratings have either went up and stayed the same from the week before, so fans were not burned out from WrestleMania. Sorry for ranting way too long on this, I just wanted to make a point.
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Post by k5 on Apr 16, 2013 1:15:09 GMT -5
interesting points for sure. i forgot tna was doing .56s in 2010...that is brutal.
so from what i take, you feel tna is on the decline?
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Apr 16, 2013 3:03:48 GMT -5
interesting points for sure. i forgot tna was doing .56s in 2010...that is brutal. so from what i take, you feel tna is on the decline? Well, their ratings have not improved despite them going live last year and at 8 pm, despite Dixie and some Spike executive saying they could get more viewers at 8, yeah they're on the decline cause at this rate, they should be doing higher ratings than they are. When I checked the ratings these past few weeks, the April 4, 2013 episode, which was a taped show, did a higher rating than the week before, which was live. I'm trying to get the quarter hours for this episode to see if it's true what some people here said about Petey Williams = ratings! But yeah, I know the past few years, Don Tony and Kevin Castle Show have made fun at some of the things TNA have done. My favorite was when KC said Eric Young is such a common name, his neighbor's name was Eric Young. But back to my point, they criticized bad stuff that made sense. I remember a episode when Kevin Castle said about ECW and TNA, "Jack Swagger and DJ Gabriel outdraw, Kurt Angle, Samoa Joe, AJ Styles, Kevin Nash, Booker T, Scott Steiner." Also, one interview Crimson did with a radio station and he said that the young guys have to step up. Don Tony went over the entire TNA roster at the time to see who could step up and be a huge star. I'm not trying to be a mark for them, but when it comes to TNA, they make a lot of sense of what they say. One more thing I also wanted to rant about. When Dixie said that it was time for them to go on the road, Don Tony mentioned that why didn't anyone interviewing her asked her if their deal with Universal Studios expired and if Universal Studios did not want to renew. That makes a lot of sense to me. I think the place where TNA did their tapings is being used now for something else I forgot. Also, Dixie Carter have said to the TNA roster that they are not allowed to do interviews with them and anyone associated with them. Here's a video I found on YouTube where Kevin Castle and Missionary Thomas from Wrestling Soup discussed TNA Lockdown where Kevin Castle focused more on Bully Ray winning the title:
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Post by "Living Legend" Duttanized on Apr 16, 2013 3:22:18 GMT -5
TNA ended their lease with Universal in March if that answers one of your questions.
To say the least, I don't think TNA ratings are going to increase tbh. I think they were at their best when the show was at one hour. Whatever, as long as they get crowds at the live tapings and Spike doesn't have a problem with the ratings it's fine.
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Post by SodaGuy on Apr 16, 2013 3:26:06 GMT -5
I wish I had a dollar for every time someone swore that TNA was on the decline because of one rating. It's one episode and all of a sudden they're on a decline? *shrug*
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Apr 16, 2013 6:46:28 GMT -5
Hey, kudos to TNA for staying on the air on Spike. I could tell you right now, if I were running Spike TV, I'd replace Impact with reruns of Two and a Half Men, or reruns of Married...With Children and I bet I'd get better ratings on that timeslot than with Impact. There's just not a lot of fans of Impact. Now, if I thought TNA was super horrible, I wouldn't even bother watching it, so that tells you how much of a fan I am. I remember back in 2010 where Dixie said that she only listens to the people that are on Twitter saying, "Good job Dixie!", "You rock Dixie!". I think Dixie should listen to the ones that don't watch her product or the ones that criticize her product. She should listen to what makes wrestling fans not watch her show because whatever she's doing now and have been doing for years is not working. Last week is not the first time they've been doing 0.9, 0.8 since their move to 8 pm. The Aces and Eights storyline is obviously not getting the ratings it should. I'm someone who watches Impact Wrestling every Thursday because I'm a wrestling fan. I criticize what I don't like and praise what I do like. I hated Chavo & Hernandez winning the titles again. When the show started last week, they started with a 0.75 quarter hour rating. So I guess people are not interested in seeing Chavo & Hernandez. For a live show, or better yet a wrestling show, they should be doing at least 1.5, 1.6. If they were averaging 1.4-1.6 on the weekly basis, I would not be ranting about Impact right now. Now, not everything on the show is horrible. Last week, I enjoyed the main event. I tried to like the Tag Team Title match, but I fell asleep the first 2 minutes of the match. The video I posted about what Kevin Castle said on how there were fans praising Bully Ray winning because he's in the best shape of his life is the prime example of the "kool-aid drinkers" they were talking about for many years now. Now I feel he deserved that belt because he's over, but after Bully Ray did that series of videos, explaining how he created the Aces and Eights and how he was the president of the group for 9 months. It would have sounded so much better if he said that the Aces and Eights offered Bully Ray an offer he couldn't refuse. When he was saying that "Hey, the boys had to take their beatings", or "I took my beatings to show I'm tough" or something along those lines. It sounded dumb to me. I understand there are people who disagree with me about the storylines in TNA not being good, but anyone who says TNA has the better product than WWE does, just look at the way things are being run in both companies. I can bring points about the product for ages cause I have many, many things to rant about TNA. I want to say TNA is doing awesome, but if people's definition of doing awesome is losing money for years (not saying they're going bankrupt. I remember in shoot interviews, the New Age Outlaws were saying that TNA will never lose money as long as Panda Energy owns it, but they're not making money either) and getting 0.9, 1.0, 1.1 as "good ratings", then I would say they're doing awesome.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2013 8:25:22 GMT -5
DAMNNNNNNN that low? Last impact wasent THAT bad. Well maybe if they give people LESS intellectually- disabled storylines maybe we could get somewhere. Seriously this new storyline with AJ styles is Boring as all hell. Dont even get me started on Joseph Parks
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Post by Scotty on Apr 16, 2013 10:22:03 GMT -5
Does anybody have ratings for TNA back in like 04-08? I'd love to see how different it used to be
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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on Apr 16, 2013 10:49:58 GMT -5
It could be just a blip, it happens. Even to WWE. I said that limiting the PPV's to 4 a year was a bad idea, the storylines last too long and people are getting bored, everyone knows the world title isn't gonna change on impact, so why have a PPV match on free TV when everyone already knows whats gonna happen.
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Post by Prophet of Ash on Apr 16, 2013 10:51:45 GMT -5
Does anybody have ratings for TNA back in like 04-08? I'd love to see how different it used to be I'd assume they'd be VERY low and terribly erratic because they were on Fox Sports at 4 PM on a week day, and the show wasn't on at the same time (or often day) every week or in every market. Impact only aired as expected when there was literally no other sports that "needed" that timeslot.
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Post by marino13 on Apr 16, 2013 17:10:22 GMT -5
Petey Williams = ratings
No Petey Williams = lowest ratings of the year
FACT!
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Post by "Living Legend" Duttanized on Apr 16, 2013 17:27:12 GMT -5
Petey Williams = ratings No Petey Williams = lowest ratings of the year FACT! You said it perfect bubba.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Apr 16, 2013 20:36:29 GMT -5
For those interested, I got the quarter hour ratings from the April 4, 2013 episode.
First Hour Break Down Q1: Impact opened with a 1.11 rating for Aces & Eights opening the show and Team TNA clearing them from the ring to set up the TV main event, plus one commercial.
Q2: Impact peaked with a 1.21 rating for the Knockouts tag match of Velvet Sky & Taryn Terrell vs. Gail Kim & Tara, one commercial, and the first-half of the Tag Title contract signing.
Q3: Impact dipped to a 1.09 rating for the conclusion of the contract signing, one commercial, and Adam Pearce vs. Magno in a Gut Check match.
Q4: Impact dipped to a show-low 0.99 rating for video packages on the Hogan/Sting business concerning Bully Ray, backstage skits, and two full commercial breaks.
Second Hour Break Down Q5: Impact got its usual top-of-the-second-hour bump, but only to a 1.16 rating for Hogan calling out A.J. Styles, plus one commercial, and the opening of the X Division three-way match. (The 1.16 rating was about four percent below the Q5 average in 2013.)
Q6: Impact slightly declined to a 1.14 rating for the conclusion of the X Division match, one commercial, and ring introductions for the main event.
Q7: Impact declined to a 1.10 rating for the 10-man tag main event, which was lower than the 1.11 rating in Q1 to set up the match. There was one mid-match commercial in the 14-minute match.
Q8: Impact slightly declined to a second-hour-low 1.08 rating for the Bully-Brooke in-ring confrontation, plus one commercial at the start of the quarter-hour.
Now, the ratings did increase during the beginning of the X-Division Title match, but declined during the conclusion of the match. The ratings peaked during the Knockouts Tag match. The lowest part of the show was during the Hogan/Sting business on Bully Ray and multiple backstage skits.
Now while Petey Williams on TV did increase the ratings at the beginning of the second hour, their highest rating was when the Knockouts were on TV.
Now, here's the quarter hours for the 4/11/13 episode:
First Hour Break Down
Q1: Impact opened with a dreadful 0.75 rating for the first two falls of the Tag Title match, plus one commercial.
Q2: Impact remained dreadful with a 0.79 rating for the conclusion of Aries & Roode vs. Chavo & Hernandez, one commercial, and the first portion of Joseph Park's in-ring speech.
Q3: Impact increased to a 0.91 rating for the second-half of Park's speech involving Devon, one commercial, and a five-minute Knockouts segment featuring Taryn Terrell.
Q4: Impact dipped to a 0.84 rating for the first of two oddball Gut Check segments, video packages, and two full commercial breaks dragging down the rating.
Second Hour Break Down
Q5: Impact only increased to a 0.96 rating at the top of the second hour, which was the lowest-rated Q5 of the year. The previous low was a 1.14 rating on March 21. The segment featured the latest attempt by Hulk Hogan asking A.J. Styles to make a decision, James Storm interrupting Styles again, Bad Influence in the ring, and the segment concluding with Hogan booking Storm-Styles next week. There was also one commercial.
Q6: Impact increased slightly to a 0.98 rating for Joey Ryan vs. Rob Terry, one commercial, and the Gut Check decision giving Magno the boot.
Q7: Impact passed the 1.00-barrier with a 1.06 rating TNA Title match ring introductions, one commercial, and the first four minutes of Bully Ray vs. Jeff Hardy.
Q8: Impact increased to a show-high 1.13 rating for the conclusion of Ray-Hardy for the TNA Title, plus one commercial at the start of the quarter-hour, allowing the final 12 minutes of the show to be focused on Ray-Hardy.
The peak on the ratings was the main event. The lowest rating was the start of the show, which was the Tag Team Title match. I wonder what the ratings will be like next week. I actually think that the ratings will increase, not exactly cause Petey Williams will be on TV, but he could be one of the factors of the ratings going up. The reason why I believe the ratings will go up is because for the past month, I'm seeing that the ratings are higher when they're taped than when they're live. I saw the spoilers of this week's show, and there's only two matches/segments on the show that I am interested in seeing (not going to mention which one they are since I forgot if they advertised any other match other than AJ vs. Storm.
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Post by "Living Legend" Duttanized on Apr 16, 2013 20:58:38 GMT -5
Just a down week no big.
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Post by thespecialone on Apr 17, 2013 2:33:04 GMT -5
I wish I had a dollar for every time someone swore that TNA was on the decline because of one rating. It's one episode and all of a sudden they're on a decline? *shrug* This. Since 2008 that TNA hasnt had such a good product so the haters feed on a rating drop to draw their disgrace picture. Same old....
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Post by punksnotdead on Apr 17, 2013 12:58:54 GMT -5
I agree. I thought the tag match was great too so it wasn't even a reflection of the product imo. I do think it's interesting that we are back to having the knockouts be some of the highest rated segments. Sky and Terrell draw for TNA but similar woman, even Terrell herself, can't draw the same way in WWE. I guess just proof of what appeals to the 18-35. The Rob Terry rating is interesting to me. I wonder if people actually are intrigued by Terry or if they liked seeing Joey Ryan get his ass kicked. I think Ryan's gimmick is perfect for said instances so I'd like to think he had something to do with it. It is nice that people did tune in for Bully vs Jeff. I think that match and the tag match were both PPV quality and it definitely deserved the boost in the main event. The AJ segment was one of my favorite segments of the year so far. Bad Influence was fantastic and AJ came out of it great from the whole thing since he's doing the whole torn between friends angle. I thought overall it was a really entertaining Impact and I hope TNA doesn't buy too much into it as long as people tune back in this week. I will say this though, I think TNA does too much backstage stuff with A&8s and certainly with Hogan. I would think less is more in both situations.
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Post by Brad on Apr 17, 2013 13:26:17 GMT -5
It sucks the ratings aren't better. I've really been enjoying TNA
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Apr 23, 2013 9:30:06 GMT -5
I got the ratings for last week's episode. They scored a 0.98 rating. They raised a 0.05. Wow, such a huge improvement. I enjoyed the show last week, don't get me wrong. But really? They only raised a 0.05. Here's the quarter ratings I found online:
TNA Impact on Thursday, April 18 officially scored a 0.97 rating off a first hour 0.91 rating and second hour 1.03 rating.
First Hour Break Down
Q1: Impact opened with a 0.81 rating, which was not much of an improvement from a 0.75 rating to open the show last week. The segment featured the first-half of Kurt Angle vs. Wes Brisco & Garett Bischoff in a handicap match and one commercial.
Q2: Impact began climbing with a 0.90 rating, which was the biggest difference from last week - Q2 last week scored a 0.79 rating. The segment featured the second-half of the Angle handicap match, one commercial, and the first-half of the X Division three-way title match.
Q3: Impact continued climbing with a 0.96 rating for the second-half of the X Title match, one commercial, and Aces & Eights beating down Magnus.
Q4: Impact stayed at a 0.96 rating for a segment with various video segments, backstage segments, and two full commercial breaks.
Second Hour Break Down
Q5: Impact got its usual top-of-the-second-hour bump to a show-high 1.07 rating for the Knockouts #1 contender match between Mickie James and Miss Tessmacher, plus one commercial. By comparison, the fifth-quarter-hour of Impact has averaged a 1.20 rating in 2013.
Q6: Impact began descending with a 1.02 rating for an in-ring segment focused on the top tag teams, one commercial, and follow-up on Jeff Hardy's injury angle last week on Impact.
Q7: Impact continued descending with a 1.01 rating for Devon vs. Samoa Joe for the TV Title, one commercial, ring introductions for the main event, and the first three minutes of James Storm vs. A.J. Styles, who was making his Impact TV return.
Q8: Impact concluded its descent with a 1.00 flat rating for one commercial, then the conclusion of Storm vs. Styles and Aces & Eights's post-match beat down on Storm, Daniels, and Kazarian.
And now, I wanna post a video I'm mad that I didn't find two days before last week's episode when TV Trax posted it. It's the conversation I was talking about where Don Tony and Kevin Castle (DT mostly) was talking about this ratings drop. It's still relevant to this whole thing, especially what Kevin Castle had to say about Bully Ray as champion and the Aces and Eights as a group. Please listen to this audio before bashing me (or them) for this argument. I really hope they can get back to the 1.1, 1.2 average instead of below 1.0 because the ratings are really almost to what Don Tony calls Aces and Eights (Aces and 0.8s)
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Post by "Living Legend" Duttanized on Apr 23, 2013 15:28:29 GMT -5
Nice to see Petey raised the ratings heading into the second hour for TNA again! The guy is just a ratings beast!
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Apr 23, 2013 17:24:57 GMT -5
Nice to see Petey raised the ratings heading into the second hour for TNA again! The guy is just a ratings beast! Oh yeah, raising the ratings from a 0.90 to a 0.96 makes Petey Williams such a ratings beast. TNA should just make him the TNA World Champion and X Division Champion. While they at it, since Petey = ratings, make him the World Tag Team Champions with Austin Aries to be the next Best Tag Team To Have Ever Lived. Yeah, such a ratings beast.
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