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Post by deskjet on Jun 19, 2013 8:57:56 GMT -5
Yea, cant put this one on the refs. Miami just showed championship heart. I hate admitting that but they did. And Manu ginobli needs to fly back to SA and watch the game from home. He literally through that game away last night and has been doing so the entire series. Man that was gut wrenching. Miami won, Ray allen hitting a crucial 3, Doc rivers maybe coming back to coach Boston...not a good day to be a celtic fan Doc's gonna come back. Yes, which is why I'm mad. I think he's a terrible coach for the C's moving forward. He needs to go along with anyone else that's gonna hold the team back. I love KG and Pierce, but as long as Doc is there, their role will never be relegated to allow for younger players to fully develop which equates to barely making the playoffs every year.
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Post by deskjet on Jun 19, 2013 9:02:03 GMT -5
When I saw Duncan on the bench, I felt like it was going to cost the Spurs just like when Hibbert was on the bench. I expected quick penetration and a gimme layup though. I know the Heat had all shooters out there, but he could have been on Bosh. Duncan could have easily gotten the first rebound. It was 3 Spurs trying to get it, they just weren't tall enough. After the Lebron 3, I thought he would be back in for the 2nd one, but wasn't. I thought they should have called a timeout on the Manu drive play just to get Parker in the game. I know that goes both ways with calling a timeout equaling set D vs transition op. Sucks, they had them, one rebound, free throw, etc. In Pop's defense he needed guys that were gonna cover long range shooters. You let bosh, wade, james, etc drive for two all day when you're up 3, but you need to protect the perimeter. even if duncan is out there you gotta defend the 3, which SA did, and James and Allen just knocked them down anyway. Not much you can do.
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Post by the franchise on Jun 19, 2013 9:21:42 GMT -5
Definitely a monumental collapse in the fourth by the Spurs. In a game where Duncan was outstanding Ginobli gives you nothing and Green gives you nothing offensively. The Spurs missed free throws and for some bizarre reason decided to leave three point shooters open at the end of the game. Why anyone would leave Ray Allen when you are up three I will never know. Good game though.
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Post by xxr23 on Jun 19, 2013 9:37:59 GMT -5
i don't know why people say the refs give calls to the heat on purpose why would the league want the most hated team to win?
It never comes down to the refs. The Spurs had so many more chances to score in both regulation and overtime. Stop complaining and grow up.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jun 19, 2013 10:49:19 GMT -5
Spurs missed their free throws, that is what killed the, refs and stupid decisions aside. Hit 1 FT, and its over.
Ray Allen had to save Lebron from being another choker.
Heat are going to win game 7 by like 20 points, no way San Antonio comes back. No way. Unfortunately.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jun 19, 2013 10:50:52 GMT -5
i don't know why people say the refs give calls to the heat on purpose why would the league want the most hated team to win? It never comes down to the refs. The Spurs had so many more chances to score in both regulation and overtime. Stop complaining and grow up. Heat arent the most hated, they might seem that way but they have A LOT of fans, a lot of bandwagon fans. Lebron has a lot more fans than the normal star. People will watch the finals for Lebron, not just for the Heat.
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Post by Quanthor on Jun 19, 2013 12:38:24 GMT -5
The officiating sucked last night. It sucked all game long on both sides. They would flip flop between calling it tight and loose on one side of the court and then the next. Both teams felt cheated.
I'm curious if Manu get's suspended for game 7. That elbow was just as bad if not worse than what Chris Andersen did to Psycho T.
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Post by Mr. K.O on Jun 19, 2013 13:06:01 GMT -5
I don't think SA can recover from a loss like that. But hey, anything can happen right?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2013 14:03:45 GMT -5
Game of the year right there, I was on the edge of my seat the entire time.
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Post by King of Kings on Jun 19, 2013 14:47:56 GMT -5
The problem with the Boston Celtics is not with Doc Rivers it's with the organization. You wanna know why Doc Rivers keeps KG and Pierce starting with the most minutes? Because they're the best players. The problem is, you just can't stick young guys in there more if they don't play well. Being young doesn't mean you're better. When KG is out of the game, the Celtics generally don't score as well. The Celtics should have built around KG and Pierce (and Allen) rather than trying to build for a future squad with no real direction.
Take a look at the championship contender Spurs as a pure contrast to the Boston Celtics organization. They've got a squad that's championship worthy on and off the bench. The older guys play as well as ever because they can rest without worry, as the bench is equally good. They've built an incredible team up. Doc Rivers knows that Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce still have legs and if they went to a team with a deeper squad he could easily get them another ring. The Boston Celtics organization has been so poor in getting young TALENT, and instead just gets young PLAYERS. Just because someone is young, does not mean they're better. In the same right, the Celtics organization is in a crapty position for cap-space because KG and Pierce are eating up so much of it...they'd both need to take a huge hit in order to get any other major talented players...they made the right moves with Jeff Green, Avery Bradley, but they've made a lot of stupid ones. Brandon Bass for Glen Davis didn't work out as well as it could have, even though Bass has produced, Davis has grown into somewhat of a main-player in Orlando (not saying much, because their team sucks, but he's better there). If we had kept Davis and he had gotten in shape like he wanted, he probably could've produced a lot more than Bass.
The Boston Celtics need a better bench is all, that way Pierce and KG don't have to push for 40 minutes every single game. Duncan and Parker played 40 minutes in the finals but they weren't the only guys pushing. Two of their bench players played almost as much as the other starters, and produced...whereas with the Celtics have all five starters playing close to 40 minutes and everyone else playing maybe 15-20 minutes.
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Post by Quanthor on Jun 19, 2013 16:35:25 GMT -5
The problem with the Boston Celtics is not with Doc Rivers it's with the organization. You wanna know why Doc Rivers keeps KG and Pierce starting with the most minutes? Because they're the best players. The problem is, you just can't stick young guys in there more if they don't play well. Being young doesn't mean you're better. When KG is out of the game, the Celtics generally don't score as well. The Celtics should have built around KG and Pierce (and Allen) rather than trying to build for a future squad with no real direction. Take a look at the championship contender Spurs as a pure contrast to the Boston Celtics organization. They've got a squad that's championship worthy on and off the bench. The older guys play as well as ever because they can rest without worry, as the bench is equally good. They've built an incredible team up. Doc Rivers knows that Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce still have legs and if they went to a team with a deeper squad he could easily get them another ring. The Boston Celtics organization has been so poor in getting young TALENT, and instead just gets young PLAYERS. Just because someone is young, does not mean they're better. In the same right, the Celtics organization is in a crapty position for cap-space because KG and Pierce are eating up so much of it...they'd both need to take a huge hit in order to get any other major talented players...they made the right moves with Jeff Green, Avery Bradley, but they've made a lot of stupid ones. Brandon Bass for Glen Davis didn't work out as well as it could have, even though Bass has produced, Davis has grown into somewhat of a main-player in Orlando (not saying much, because their team sucks, but he's better there). If we had kept Davis and he had gotten in shape like he wanted, he probably could've produced a lot more than Bass. The Boston Celtics need a better bench is all, that way Pierce and KG don't have to push for 40 minutes every single game. Duncan and Parker played 40 minutes in the finals but they weren't the only guys pushing. Two of their bench players played almost as much as the other starters, and produced...whereas with the Celtics have all five starters playing close to 40 minutes and everyone else playing maybe 15-20 minutes. I agree with some of this. The Spurs started retooling quite some time ago preparing for the decline of their core and now have a nice balanced roster. They draft well and even more importantly they coach even better getting the best out of their players. Boston started too late, but I can't say they haven't drafted well. Bradley was a nice get and I like Sullinger too. Spurs loaded up on shooters, size and versatility while Boston lacks size and shooting despite being a jump shooting team. The big difference though is the core itself. 1. Tony Parker just turned 31 and is currently better than anything Boston has on it's roster. He's arguably a top 10 player in this league. He's been an MVP caliber player these past few seasons. 2. Tim Duncan is a low post player, KG is a stretch 4. There's still very few guys in this league that can work the block and are as crafty around the basket as Duncan. Duncan is also better in nearly every statistical category than Kevin. His win shares are still remarkably high at .191, KG's are .133. Manu and Pierce almost look equally washed up to me. More so Manu, but still game to game there's not enough consistency there. They're still capable of having big games, but not enough to matter.
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Post by T R W on Jun 20, 2013 16:13:39 GMT -5
I pray the Spurs find a way but I expect Lebron and Wade to go off tonight and win by 20. I would play Parker until he dies. They are awful when he isn't on the court and Manu is a liability out there.
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Post by m0nst3r42 on Jun 20, 2013 17:11:45 GMT -5
Spurs need to win!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2013 17:54:08 GMT -5
Spurs are gonna win like it or not.
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Post by Jamal on Jun 20, 2013 18:09:01 GMT -5
I really don't give a crap who wins. I just hope the game is half as good as the last one.
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Post by Mr. K.O on Jun 20, 2013 18:36:23 GMT -5
I am really pulling for Spurs to win this, but I will not be surprised if Heat win. The only thing I hope for besides that is the game will at least be close and intense as the last one.
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Post by Tim of thee on Jun 20, 2013 20:05:23 GMT -5
win or lose, I've gained a lot for respect for this Heat team.. in particular LeBron James..
they just will not quit
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Post by Mr. K.O on Jun 20, 2013 21:10:03 GMT -5
I still don't know how Gary Neal can bank in a long 3 by just chucking it up. This is his 2nd time (I think?)
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Post by T R W on Jun 20, 2013 21:24:19 GMT -5
God the abc halftime show is dreadful.
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Post by Arthur Speaks on Jun 20, 2013 22:24:52 GMT -5
Sometimes I wonder if the Spurs are just phoning it in.
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