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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2015 17:38:47 GMT -5
Tennant didn't start that either. I'm aware. Right. Well, I'll refrain from posting in this thread in future, because my thoughts obviously aren't welcome.
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Post by ahunter8056 on Oct 21, 2015 18:04:48 GMT -5
Right. Well, I'll refrain from posting in this thread in future, because my thoughts obviously aren't welcome. Please continue posting in this thread. Your thoughts are very welcome as far as I'm concerned. I'm sure bad guy™ didn't mean any harm.
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Post by bad guy™ on Oct 21, 2015 18:13:40 GMT -5
Right. Well, I'll refrain from posting in this thread in future, because my thoughts obviously aren't welcome. It's not that, it's that you've made it obvious that you're a massive fan of the classic series, maybe more so than NewWho. That's great. Classic Who is classic. Baker is a god. It's a fun watch for fans. But unfortunately NewWho is incredibly popular right now, we're smack dab in the middle of a new season, and most of the people in this thread's first Doctor was Nine or Ten because we weren't British, or alive, before the revival. I don't even think Pepsi was alive when they made the movie and I was only three. Classic Who is great but the majority of people you're going to get in here are going to be fans of Who because of the reboot. Their favorite Doctor is going to be Tennant. Classic scifi is tricky. Star Trek is having the same issue now, all of these new fans because of the movie reboots, but I grew up watching Voyager and Enterprise so I have a little jump, but I simply can't watch Shatner/Nemoy's original series. I'm not alone either. Old scifi is a niche. Just like in 50 years if they re-reboot Who, people will find Smith unbearable while I shake my cane at the kids saying "Well back in my day fezzes were cool!" Just gotta remember where most people are jumping in at. If you want them to watch Classic, and they have the desire, point them to episodes that can stand the test of time. Like the discussion we all had about the Three Doctors arc a few pages back, that's something that has held up. One's Aztec episodes, only good thing that came from that arc was we got to see Two before he was Two. Just gotta realize fandoms and generational gaps.
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Post by bad guy™ on Oct 21, 2015 18:15:05 GMT -5
Right. Well, I'll refrain from posting in this thread in future, because my thoughts obviously aren't welcome. Please continue posting in this thread. Your thoughts are very welcome as far as I'm concerned. I'm sure bad guy™ didn't mean any harm. I meant nothing by it. It's just the whole new fans like the new stuff, and sometimes old scifi doesn't hold up no matter how much we may love it.
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Post by King Richius on Oct 21, 2015 18:31:08 GMT -5
Right. Well, I'll refrain from posting in this thread in future, because my thoughts obviously aren't welcome. It's not that, it's that you've made it obvious that you're a massive fan of the classic series, maybe more so than NewWho. That's great. Classic Who is classic. Baker is a god. It's a fun watch for fans. But unfortunately NewWho is incredibly popular right now, we're smack dab in the middle of a new season, and most of the people in this thread's first Doctor was Nine or Ten because we weren't British, or alive, before the revival. I don't even think Pepsi was alive when they made the movie and I was only three. Classic Who is great but the majority of people you're going to get in here are going to be fans of Who because of the reboot. Their favorite Doctor is going to be Tennant. Classic scifi is tricky. Star Trek is having the same issue now, all of these new fans because of the movie reboots, but I grew up watching Voyager and Enterprise so I have a little jump, but I simply can't watch Shatner/Nemoy's original series. I'm not alone either. Old scifi is a niche. Just like in 50 years if they re-reboot Who, people will find Smith unbearable while I shake my cane at the kids saying "Well back in my day fezzes were cool!" Just gotta remember where most people are jumping in at. If you want them to watch Classic, and they have the desire, point them to episodes that can stand the test of time. Like the discussion we all had about the Three Doctors arc a few pages back, that's something that has held up. One's Aztec episodes, only good thing that came from that arc was we got to see Two before he was Two. Just gotta realize fandoms and generational gaps. I'll try not to hold it against you that you are neither old enough nor British enough to remember classic Doctor Who Just wanted to add that I am a fan of both classic and new Who. My favorite Doctor Who actor is Tom Baker followed closely by Pertwee but my favorite episodes are Tennant's run with Rose in the Bad Wolf stories; not as big a fan of his time with Donna because I didn't like her character but there is some outstanding writing during those episodes. Overall, the writing was always good if not great during Tennant's run as Doctor. It slipped a little during Matt's run (which is redeemed by the best supporting cast of any Doctor with Amy, Rory and River) and imho it has been horrible during Capaldi's run as the Doctor. I also happen to think Missy is a far worse Master than the guy who played him during Tennant's run (I'm too lazy to search IMDB for the actor's name). Anyway, that should be enough of my opinionated opinions to get a few likes as well as some hateful replies...heh heh.
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Post by bad guy™ on Oct 21, 2015 18:55:41 GMT -5
It's not that, it's that you've made it obvious that you're a massive fan of the classic series, maybe more so than NewWho. That's great. Classic Who is classic. Baker is a god. It's a fun watch for fans. But unfortunately NewWho is incredibly popular right now, we're smack dab in the middle of a new season, and most of the people in this thread's first Doctor was Nine or Ten because we weren't British, or alive, before the revival. I don't even think Pepsi was alive when they made the movie and I was only three. Classic Who is great but the majority of people you're going to get in here are going to be fans of Who because of the reboot. Their favorite Doctor is going to be Tennant. Classic scifi is tricky. Star Trek is having the same issue now, all of these new fans because of the movie reboots, but I grew up watching Voyager and Enterprise so I have a little jump, but I simply can't watch Shatner/Nemoy's original series. I'm not alone either. Old scifi is a niche. Just like in 50 years if they re-reboot Who, people will find Smith unbearable while I shake my cane at the kids saying "Well back in my day fezzes were cool!" Just gotta remember where most people are jumping in at. If you want them to watch Classic, and they have the desire, point them to episodes that can stand the test of time. Like the discussion we all had about the Three Doctors arc a few pages back, that's something that has held up. One's Aztec episodes, only good thing that came from that arc was we got to see Two before he was Two. Just gotta realize fandoms and generational gaps. I'll try not to hold it against you that you are neither old enough nor British enough to remember classic Doctor Who Just wanted to add that I am a fan of both classic and new Who. My favorite Doctor Who actor is Tom Baker followed closely by Pertwee but my favorite episodes are Tennant's run with Rose in the Bad Wolf stories; not as big a fan of his time with Donna because I didn't like her character but there is some outstanding writing during those episodes. Overall, the writing was always good if not great during Tennant's run as Doctor. It slipped a little during Matt's run (which is redeemed by the best supporting cast of any Doctor with Amy, Rory and River) and imho it has been horrible during Capaldi's run as the Doctor. I also happen to think Missy is a far worse Master than the guy who played him during Tennant's run (I'm too lazy to search IMDB for the actor's name). Anyway, that should be enough of my opinionated opinions to get a few likes as well as some hateful replies...heh heh. The saving grace about Missy is that someone, anyone, finally broke the Time Lord gender barrier. That's the most interesting part about Missy. I'll agree that Capaldi's not been great, but I think part of it is that the big mystery is over. Gallifrey survived. The whole backdrop of 8 (Night of the Doctor 8), 9, 10 and 11 was that he exterminated his race. Now we know he didn't. Older Who didn't have that kind of overreaching arc, just had stories with recurring villains which worked perfect...however that kind of stuff doesn't really sit well with modern drama TV. There's gotta be a monster long story with little off episodes to keep you on your toes, and Moffat's gone and finished telling the story him and Davies started and it seems as if he did his masterpiece so...now what? I think the best thing would be for Moffat to step down and let someone else come in. Tom Baker is my favorite by default because I've seen the most of his episodes over any of the original 7. Stolen Earth/Journey's End is my favorite two parter of the new series. Had I not watched it four years after it originally aired, I would have been on the edge of my seat like I was for the Missy reveal last season.
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Post by King Richius on Oct 21, 2015 19:21:34 GMT -5
Older Who didn't have that kind of overreaching arc, just had stories with recurring villains which worked perfect...however that kind of stuff doesn't really sit well with modern drama TV. There's gotta be a monster long story with little off episodes to keep you on your toes, and Moffat's gone and finished telling the story him and Davies started and it seems as if he did his masterpiece so...now what? I think the best thing would be for Moffat to step down and let someone else come in. Truer words have never been spoken, or in this case typed. Some times I imagine what it would have been like if Pertwee or Baker had 21st century writing/production and I get all giddy. It really does seem that the current crop of writers have peaked and it is time for a new crew with a new vision to take over.
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Post by bad guy™ on Oct 24, 2015 17:10:31 GMT -5
Big episode tonight...cannot wait for it~!
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Oct 24, 2015 20:13:15 GMT -5
I've always wanted to check this out buy never got around to it. Is it worth it? Netflix is your friend. They have some of the stuff from 63-89, then everything from 05-14, but we mostly talk about the reboot. You really gotta like scifi to enjoy Who, because some of the stuff only makes sense in scifi terms. I've had friends who have watched the first episode of the reboot and refused to watch the rest because it was kind of stupid. But then I got them to watch the rest of the first season and learn about the lore of the series, and season 2 is where it really picks up. If you can survive season one with interest, you'll be set for the entire series. If you're interested in the classic series, Hulu's better than Netflix. They have over 400 episodes currently. I wish they'd fill in some of the gaps (not counting the missing ones, of course), but that's still better than any other streaming service.
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Oct 24, 2015 21:01:23 GMT -5
I loved this episode.
Williams was amazing and her speeches were fantastic. She was the absolute perfect choice for this role.
Rufus Hound was a lot of fun as Sam Swfit. His stand up comedy on the gallows was odd, but a lot of fun.
I liked the Lion alien. I wish there had been more too that role, but the costume was excellent. The Doctor calling him Lenny was funny too.
I also enjoyed the epilogue with Clara and picture.
Zygons next week! And Osgood's back! I wonder if the one killed before was the Zygon or if they're going to really rip out my heart and have this one be revealed as such.
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Post by sean™ on Oct 24, 2015 21:57:16 GMT -5
I have absolutely no reason not to think that the Doctor knows Clara's fate.
He looks at her as if he's already lost her and is cherishing the time vs. worrying what could happen to her.
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Post by ahunter8056 on Oct 25, 2015 7:47:53 GMT -5
7/10. My lowest ranking of Series 9 to date. And it's not even a bad ranking. I did feel that the alien was very underused and seemed just a minor part of the plot. But it was a good episode. The gallows stand up scene was hilarious. Not one I'll be rushing to rewatch, but one that was good to watch nonetheless.
Series 9 is definitely the best series since Series 5.
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Post by bad guy™ on Oct 31, 2015 7:15:47 GMT -5
**insert "Tonight's the night" video here**
I'm geeked for this week being honest, see what happens here.
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Post by sean™ on Nov 2, 2015 10:41:19 GMT -5
Man a lot happening in that episode. Looking forward to the conclusion.
Very interested to see where this whole Hybrid thing goes. Seems to be the reoccuring theme of the season.
BOLD PREDICTION (Apologies if this spoils anything, but you've been forewarned)
I still think the Doctor knows what is coming for Clara in some way or another. Mixed with the events of the first two episodes, and the theme of hybrid creatures coming up, I think that Clara is the hybrid, and it puts the Doctor in the position of having to defeat her in the end.
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Post by bad guy™ on Nov 2, 2015 13:47:47 GMT -5
Man a lot happening in that episode. Looking forward to the conclusion. Very interested to see where this whole Hybrid thing goes. Seems to be the reoccuring theme of the season. BOLD PREDICTION (Apologies if this spoils anything, but you've been forewarned) I still think the Doctor knows what is coming for Clara in some way or another. Mixed with the events of the first two episodes, and the theme of hybrid creatures coming up, I think that Clara is the hybrid, and it puts the Doctor in the position of having to defeat her in the end. Pretty much. And that's probably what River is for. The only one who can help him beat her. Gotta have a heartbreak for Christmas somewhere.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2015 16:34:32 GMT -5
Loved the last episode. I really like the big feeling of peril through it all and they did a great job of getting a lot of stuff packed into the one episode. I'm really looking forward to part two and I have been loving the two-parters this season.
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Post by bad guy™ on Nov 2, 2015 18:04:06 GMT -5
Spoilers below: According to Cultbox, after pressure at a recent convention, an executive producer and Steven Moffat revealed that unbeknownst to anyone but the WhoCrew, Maisie Williams will return again in an episode towards the end of this season.
I'm going to assume somehow in a twisted way she's the Minister of War, or she is what kills Clara.
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Post by ahunter8056 on Nov 3, 2015 14:51:57 GMT -5
Spoilers below: According to Cultbox, after pressure at a recent convention, an executive producer and Steven Moffat revealed that unbeknownst to anyone but the WhoCrew, Maisie Williams will return again in an episode towards the end of this season.
I'm going to assume somehow in a twisted way she's the Minister of War, or she is what kills Clara. That was revealed a couple of weeks ago by Episode 10 writer Sarah Dollard, that she returns as Ashildr in 'Face The Raven' (Episode 10). Officially announced today in the 'Face The Raven' synopsis:
"The Doctor and Clara, with their old friend Rigsy, find themselves in a magical alien world, hidden on a street in the heart of London. Sheltered within are some of the most fearsome creatures of the universe… and Ashildr (Maisie Williams)! With a death sentence hanging over their heads, not all of the intruders will get out alive." If you want my advice, I'd recommend regularly checking www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/news for the latest Doctor Who news, rather than a website like Cultbox.
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Post by bad guy™ on Nov 7, 2015 8:02:53 GMT -5
So it's the end of the Zygon 2 parter...should be interesting to see how The Doctor and Clara get out of this.
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Post by bad guy™ on Nov 10, 2015 17:25:06 GMT -5
Don't know about y'all, but I got that empty feeling that this two parter is it for Clara. I may die.
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