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Post by Halloween King on Jun 13, 2013 12:42:23 GMT -5
Just watched Cloud Atlas, still dont know what I watched. The movie is about 3 hrs long. I got pretty far into the movie as far as time goes with out understanding what I was watching. It wasnt till the near end that I kinda understood?
Basicly the movie takes 6 storys and mixes them all together. I think the 2 future based storys would have been cool movies on their own. All 6 storys are acted out by the same people. So I guess that's what ties them all together?
Pretty confusing film but the end was nice, I guess.
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Post by TurboEddie on Jun 13, 2013 12:54:04 GMT -5
I saw it in theaters back in October and now own it on Blu-ray. It is thought provoking and very dreamlike. Best movie of 2012.
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Post by PenguinDeluxe on Jun 13, 2013 13:03:25 GMT -5
I didn't think it was that difficult to understand. Everyone connected thematically, not necessarily through specific events with a few exceptions. I am not a fan of the Wakowskis by any means and I only saw it in theaters because a group if friends wanted to, but I was impressed. It kept my attention for its very long run time, never felt confusing, but was complex, and it had some wonderful performances. Probably in the top 10 films I saw in 2012z
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Post by J12 on Jun 13, 2013 15:00:29 GMT -5
I've read the book and have been looking for the time to watch the film, I've got to get to it soon. I've heard the film can come off quite messy if you haven't read the novel beforehand.
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Post by PenguinDeluxe on Jun 13, 2013 16:37:39 GMT -5
I've read the book and have been looking for the time to watch the film, I've got to get to it soon. I've heard the film can come off quite messy if you haven't read the novel beforehand. I'm not so sure. I hadn't read the book and knew literally nothing going into the movie and I enjoyed it and understood what was going on for the most part. I thought they did a pretty good job of making it complex, but not too difficult to grasp.
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Post by Halloween King on Jun 14, 2013 0:37:01 GMT -5
I didn't think it was that difficult to understand. Everyone connected thematically, not necessarily through specific events with a few exceptions. I am not a fan of the Wakowskis by any means and I only saw it in theaters because a group if friends wanted to, but I was impressed. It kept my attention for its very long run time, never felt confusing, but was complex, and it had some wonderful performances. Probably in the top 10 films I saw in 2012z Ok, since you say you understood the movie here's a few things that didnt sit well with me. I'll warn there are some spoilers here so if you dont want the film spoiled for you read no further. Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler --------- The movie claims that everyone's lives are connected forever. And that actions you make in this life will be rewarded/punished in the next life, yet Tom Hank's character was a criminal for a most of the movie. He trys to kill a man just to take his gold. He throws a man off a building and then extorts and trys to kill his publisher, he extorts/blackmails a man out of his money in exchange for silence. But in the end everything turns out happy and good for him. DESPITE the fact that even in his last life he was a coward that let his friend get slaughtered. So didnt the movie kinda contradict itself there? Also what or who was that green guy that Tom Hank's character talks to in the last life, the one set in a post war earth. Was that an actual person? Was that a spirit? Was it some kind of unknown lifeform? Was it a demon? Was it a god? I mean when you first see the green man he's kinda scary but he saves Tom Hank's character. So that made me think it was an angle of sorts. But then the rest of the story the green guy is telling Tom Hanks to kill Haley Berry, so was it a demon? And then the slave. The black man who was a slave and becomes a sea man was in that story alone, unless I missed something? And then the old man who is put in an old folks home never comes out after that story. It just seemed like the movie's idea is that once you get a happy ending life you dont come back? ------- End Spoilers End Spoilers End Spoilers The movie was so randomly put together. And then they dont explain much if anything. And then it kinda contradicts itself so it all only adds to the confusion. I can see why Warner Bros didnt fully fund this movie.
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Post by PenguinDeluxe on Jun 14, 2013 0:55:12 GMT -5
I didn't think it was that difficult to understand. Everyone connected thematically, not necessarily through specific events with a few exceptions. I am not a fan of the Wakowskis by any means and I only saw it in theaters because a group if friends wanted to, but I was impressed. It kept my attention for its very long run time, never felt confusing, but was complex, and it had some wonderful performances. Probably in the top 10 films I saw in 2012z Ok, since you say you understood the movie here's a few things that didnt sit well with me. I'll warn there are some spoilers here so if you dont want the film spoiled for you read no further. Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler --------- The movie claims that everyone's lives are connected forever. And that actions you make in this life will be rewarded/punished in the next life, yet Tom Hank's character was a criminal for a most of the movie. He trys to kill a man just to take his gold. He throws a man off a building and then extorts and trys to kill his publisher, he extorts/blackmails a man out of his money in exchange for silence. But in the end everything turns out happy and good for him. DESPITE the fact that even in his last life he was a coward that let his friend get slaughtered. So didnt the movie kinda contradict itself there? Also what or who was that green guy that Tom Hank's character talks to in the last life, the one set in a post war earth. Was that an actual person? Was that a spirit? Was it some kind of unknown lifeform? Was it a demon? Was it a god? I mean when you first see the green man he's kinda scary but he saves Tom Hank's character. So that made me think it was an angle of sorts. But then the rest of the story the green guy is telling Tom Hanks to kill Haley Berry, so was it a demon? And then the slave. The black man who was a slave and becomes a sea man was in that story alone, unless I missed something? And then the old man who is put in an old folks home never comes out after that story. It just seemed like the movie's idea is that once you get a happy ending life you dont come back? ------- End Spoilers End Spoilers End Spoilers The movie was so randomly put together. And then they dont explain much if anything. And then it kinda contradicts itself so it all only adds to the confusion. I can see why Warner Bros didnt fully fund this movie. There's hundreds if not thousands of years between the later stories, so there is sure to be lifetimes we don't see in the film. The guy that Hugo Weaving played was supposed to be the darker side of Hanks's character, like the devil on the shoulder. Not a literal devil, but that side of him. Thought that one was kind of obvious to be honest :/ Also, the slave was also the journalist's father who was seen in a photograph during that segment and was Duophysite, a member of the Prescients in that segment. The old man put in the home was actually in EVERY segment except for the one in 1973. He was Captain Molyneux (1849), Vyvyan Ayrs (1936), a musician (2144), and one of the prescients (2321).
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Post by Halloween King on Jun 14, 2013 1:12:43 GMT -5
Ok, since you say you understood the movie here's a few things that didnt sit well with me. I'll warn there are some spoilers here so if you dont want the film spoiled for you read no further. Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler --------- The movie claims that everyone's lives are connected forever. And that actions you make in this life will be rewarded/punished in the next life, yet Tom Hank's character was a criminal for a most of the movie. He trys to kill a man just to take his gold. He throws a man off a building and then extorts and trys to kill his publisher, he extorts/blackmails a man out of his money in exchange for silence. But in the end everything turns out happy and good for him. DESPITE the fact that even in his last life he was a coward that let his friend get slaughtered. So didnt the movie kinda contradict itself there? Also what or who was that green guy that Tom Hank's character talks to in the last life, the one set in a post war earth. Was that an actual person? Was that a spirit? Was it some kind of unknown lifeform? Was it a demon? Was it a god? I mean when you first see the green man he's kinda scary but he saves Tom Hank's character. So that made me think it was an angle of sorts. But then the rest of the story the green guy is telling Tom Hanks to kill Haley Berry, so was it a demon? And then the slave. The black man who was a slave and becomes a sea man was in that story alone, unless I missed something? And then the old man who is put in an old folks home never comes out after that story. It just seemed like the movie's idea is that once you get a happy ending life you dont come back? ------- End Spoilers End Spoilers End Spoilers The movie was so randomly put together. And then they dont explain much if anything. And then it kinda contradicts itself so it all only adds to the confusion. I can see why Warner Bros didnt fully fund this movie. There's hundreds if not thousands of years between the later stories, so there is sure to be lifetimes we don't see in the film. The guy that Hugo Weaving played was supposed to be the darker side of Hanks's character, like the devil on the shoulder. Not a literal devil, but that side of him. Thought that one was kind of obvious to be honest :/ Also, the slave was also the journalist's father who was seen in a photograph during that segment and was Duophysite, a member of the Prescients in that segment. The old man put in the home was actually in EVERY segment except for the one in 1973. He was Captain Molyneux (1849), Vyvyan Ayrs (1936), a musician (2144), and one of the prescients (2321). So you're telling me that Tom Hank's own self told him that they were going to be ambushed? That makes no sense. Because when Haley Berry first shows up, and the town folk are asking her questions, Tom Hanks was thinking to him self. Saying to himself how she answers but doesnt explain, and the people are too scared to ask for explanations cause they didnt want to seem dumb. So had that green guy been his own concious he would have apeared there instead of us hearing Tom think to himself. The movie tried so hard to be something huge that it didnt come across well. I think they were way too ambitious. They could have made 6 movies the right way and done them proper but instead they took 6 movies and tried to rush them all and string them all together ending up with 1 long yet weak movie.
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