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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2013 22:15:42 GMT -5
Am I the only one that was really impressed by Wyatt Family's entrance? This was amazingly done by WWE. Great stuff! Great RAW overall!
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Post by Johnny Wrestling on Jul 8, 2013 22:18:05 GMT -5
I loved the hell out of it. Surprised it was against Kane though.
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Jul 8, 2013 22:21:05 GMT -5
I loved the entrance but something about the Kane attack i didn't like though. Not really sure what i wanted or expected.
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Post by savage on Jul 8, 2013 22:25:47 GMT -5
I thought it was surprisingly good. I think they couldve done without having Bray kneel down next to Kane at the end. I think having him sit there quietly watching and just leave after would have been more effective.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jul 8, 2013 22:25:54 GMT -5
There was nothing about that debut that makes the Wyatt family any different than any other Superstar or group in WWE history that has simply made their debut by attacking somebody.
Their creepy promos with the music, special effects and horror movie style camera cuts are very interesting...but Husky Harris walking to the ring with an electric lantern with a light bulb in it is NOT the same thing. That creepiness is NOT going to translate in front of a live audience because everything about the Wyatt Family promos that gave them "that vibe" was all in the way the video was EDITED. This is NOT going to work in front of a live audience.
I mean, what the hell was so special about this debut? After weeks and weeks and weeks of promos, they showed up and beat down Kane. Big deal. I was not impressed.
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Post by Escape The Rules on Jul 8, 2013 22:31:27 GMT -5
Damn great, enjoyed the hell out of it.
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Post by TurboEddie on Jul 8, 2013 22:36:09 GMT -5
I enjoyed it. The fans ruined it by chanting Husky Harris, though.
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Post by Charlie f'n Kelly on Jul 8, 2013 22:38:21 GMT -5
Yeah, their promos and entrance were GREAT. But there was no point in attacking Kane, it was kind of stupid. Good debut, just wish they did something different.
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Post by JWC on Jul 8, 2013 22:39:46 GMT -5
There was nothing about that debut that makes the Wyatt family any different than any other Superstar or group in WWE history that has simply made their debut by attacking somebody. Their creepy promos with the music, special effects and horror movie style camera cuts are very interesting...but Husky Harris walking to the ring with an electric lantern with a light bulb in it is NOT the same thing. That creepiness is NOT going to translate in front of a live audience because everything about the Wyatt Family promos that gave them "that vibe" was all in the way the video was EDITED. This is NOT going to work in front of a live audience. I mean, what the hell was so special about this debut? After weeks and weeks and weeks of promos, they showed up and beat down Kane. Big deal. I was not impressed. BLAH BLAH BLAH |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2013 22:48:00 GMT -5
once the lights went on it was downhill.
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Post by Rule 30 on Jul 8, 2013 22:50:33 GMT -5
I just hope Bray gets actual mic time on the show, I think that'll be more effective than anything.
Still loved the debut, though. That entrance was awesome.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2013 22:57:35 GMT -5
I liked the debut, but it wasn't the best in a long time. I thought The Shield had a better, more impactful debut.
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Post by B-Lish on Jul 8, 2013 23:08:39 GMT -5
Attacking Kane was better than Cena. Cena would have been predictable. Beat down a face to show what you really are but no need to go for the top yet. No need to get buried so fast. Start small
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Post by Dat guy ova der on Jul 8, 2013 23:09:47 GMT -5
There was nothing about that debut that makes the Wyatt family any different than any other Superstar or group in WWE history that has simply made their debut by attacking somebody. Their creepy promos with the music, special effects and horror movie style camera cuts are very interesting...but Husky Harris walking to the ring with an electric lantern with a light bulb in it is NOT the same thing. That creepiness is NOT going to translate in front of a live audience because everything about the Wyatt Family promos that gave them "that vibe" was all in the way the video was EDITED. This is NOT going to work in front of a live audience. I mean, what the hell was so special about this debut? After weeks and weeks and weeks of promos, they showed up and beat down Kane. Big deal. I was not impressed. You're allowed to be unimpressed, but I have to ask, what WOULD have impressed you? I really enjoyed the debut personally. Was it extremely innovative? No, but I don't think it needed to be. They came in, looked cool, and took out one of the bigger badasses in the company without going after a title. I'm happy. |
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jul 8, 2013 23:23:24 GMT -5
There was nothing about that debut that makes the Wyatt family any different than any other Superstar or group in WWE history that has simply made their debut by attacking somebody. Their creepy promos with the music, special effects and horror movie style camera cuts are very interesting...but Husky Harris walking to the ring with an electric lantern with a light bulb in it is NOT the same thing. That creepiness is NOT going to translate in front of a live audience because everything about the Wyatt Family promos that gave them "that vibe" was all in the way the video was EDITED. This is NOT going to work in front of a live audience. I mean, what the hell was so special about this debut? After weeks and weeks and weeks of promos, they showed up and beat down Kane. Big deal. I was not impressed. You're allowed to be unimpressed, but I have to ask, what WOULD have impressed you? I really enjoyed the debut personally. Was it extremely innovative? No, but I don't think it needed to be. They came in, looked cool, and took out one of the bigger badasses in the company without going after a title. I'm happy. What would have impressed me is if WWE had been smart and had them debut on SMACKDOWN. As I said, I don't that it's a good idea to build a group up by using taped promos containing very cool and interesting special effects, music, camera cuts and a horror style theme.....and then when they show up live in person the best you do for them is a lantern with a LIGHT BULB in it. They should have debuted on SMACKDOWN and given an in ring promo that could have had music and special effects and camera cuts edited in for the broadcast. Kind of like what WWE did with Kane when he was the Devils favorite Demon. Due to the editing and special effects, his promos were very creepy and demonic. Watch this and you'll see what I mean: |
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Post by Dat guy ova der on Jul 8, 2013 23:31:00 GMT -5
You're allowed to be unimpressed, but I have to ask, what WOULD have impressed you? I really enjoyed the debut personally. Was it extremely innovative? No, but I don't think it needed to be. They came in, looked cool, and took out one of the bigger badasses in the company without going after a title. I'm happy. What would have impressed me is if WWE had been smart and had them debut on SMACKDOWN. As I said, I don't that it's a good idea to build a group up by using taped promos containing very cool and interesting special effects, music, camera cuts and a horror style theme.....and then when they show up live in person the best you do for them is a lantern with a LIGHT BULB in it. They should have debuted on SMACKDOWN and given an in ring promo that could have had music and special effects and camera cuts edited in for the broadcast. Kind of like what WWE did with Kane when he was the Devils favorite Demon. Due to the editing and special effects, his promos were very creepy and demonic. Watch this and you'll see what I mean: As far as I can tell though, these guys aren't supposed to be supernatural like Kane. Sure, they do creepy things, but I think they can accomplish that live with the lights going out and re-positioning themselves like they did with the attack on Kane. To be fair, I think the reason they had to go with the lantern they did was because they couldn't risk an actual flame being blown out accidentally on live TV. I also don't know how bright a real flame would have been. |
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jul 8, 2013 23:37:41 GMT -5
What would have impressed me is if WWE had been smart and had them debut on SMACKDOWN. As I said, I don't that it's a good idea to build a group up by using taped promos containing very cool and interesting special effects, music, camera cuts and a horror style theme.....and then when they show up live in person the best you do for them is a lantern with a LIGHT BULB in it. They should have debuted on SMACKDOWN and given an in ring promo that could have had music and special effects and camera cuts edited in for the broadcast. Kind of like what WWE did with Kane when he was the Devils favorite Demon. Due to the editing and special effects, his promos were very creepy and demonic. Watch this and you'll see what I mean: As far as I can tell though, these guys aren't supposed to be supernatural like Kane. Sure, they do creepy things, but I think they can accomplish that live with the lights going out and re-positioning themselves like they did with the attack on Kane. To be fair, I think the reason they had to go with the lantern they did was because they couldn't risk an actual flame being blown out accidentally on live TV. I also don't know how bright a real flame would have been. There are actually electric lanterns with light bulbs that flicker like an actual flame if WWE had decided to get one that cost more than $5.99 from Target, lol. Also, WWE has done inferno matches, torches, and tons of people have huge pyro...I don't think Husky Harris was going to burn the place down, lol. Regardless of the lantern, the debut of the Wyatt Family made no impact. For as much as they were built up, their debut was not groundbreaking. They did nothing earth shattering or unheard of. They gave me NOTHING that I haven't seen a thousand times before. And for as much talk on WWE TV as they got for being different and creepy and scary and disturbing....they were pretty generic to me. This was what I was afraid of, that the VIBE from their vingettes thanks to all of the special effects editing wasn't going to translate to a live crowd without the special effects. And I'm not talking supernatural powers. The music, the camera cuts, the shaky camera work and creepy images popping out at the viewer in the promos...none of that was supernatural, it was just great editing. But they don't have any of that in the live arena. What can they do IN PERSON LIVE that is going to make them appear as creepy as those vingettes did? A lantern with a light bulb and generic beatdowns sure as sh*t ain't gonna get it done. |
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Post by Dat guy ova der on Jul 8, 2013 23:44:17 GMT -5
As far as I can tell though, these guys aren't supposed to be supernatural like Kane. Sure, they do creepy things, but I think they can accomplish that live with the lights going out and re-positioning themselves like they did with the attack on Kane. To be fair, I think the reason they had to go with the lantern they did was because they couldn't risk an actual flame being blown out accidentally on live TV. I also don't know how bright a real flame would have been. There are actually electric lanterns with light bulbs that flicker like an actual flame if WWE had decided to get one that cost more than $5.99 from Target, lol. Also, WWE has done inferno matches, torches, and tons of people have huge pyro...I don't think Husky Harris was going to burn the place down, lol. Regardless of the lantern, the debut of the Wyatt Family made no impact. For as much as they were built up, their debut was not groundbreaking. They did nothing earth shattering or unheard of. They gave me NOTHING that I haven't seen a thousand times before. And for as much talk on WWE TV as they got for being different and creepy and scary and disturbing....they were pretty generic to me. This was what I was afraid of, that the VIBE from their vingettes thanks to all of the special effects editing wasn't going to translate to a live crowd without the special effects. And I'm not talking supernatural powers. The music, the camera cuts, the shaky camera work and creepy images popping out at the viewer in the promos...none of that was supernatural, it was just great editing. But they don't have any of that in the live arena. What can they do IN PERSON LIVE that is going to make them appear as creepy as those vingettes did? A lantern with a light bulb and generic beatdowns sure as sh*t ain't gonna get it done. Fair enough. I guess we'll just have to wait and see how they do in the next few weeks/months. Personally, I disagree, and for entertainment value I hope you're wrong. |
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Post by JHTB® on Jul 8, 2013 23:57:47 GMT -5
I loved their entrance! Overall pretty cool debut.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2013 0:01:31 GMT -5
the entrance was amazing. they attacked kane so brey can replace him in the mitb, yes?
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