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Post by HVMMONS on Aug 27, 2013 23:23:04 GMT -5
Man, i miss it so much. I know there'd be no use for it in today's WWE, but man... Good times
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2013 0:28:39 GMT -5
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Post by Rule 30 on Aug 28, 2013 0:36:33 GMT -5
I loved Hardcore matches, not because they were technical masterpieces, but they were just fun to watch. Which is the case with a lot of stuff from the Attitude Era.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2013 5:32:16 GMT -5
Raven vs. Kane vs. Big Show is one of my favorite matches.
I also miss the Hardcore title. It was something different which is always good. I never really cared for the 24/7 rule though. It was fun at first but quickly just became goofy and comedic.
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Post by cordless2016 on Aug 28, 2013 13:17:20 GMT -5
While the matches wern't always the prettiest the segments were great and it was a way to give us something different and unique during the shows. Obviously the Hardcore Title wouldn't work in todays "PG" era but the title scene would work much better today if we had...
- WWE Title = Main Eventers
- IC Title = Upper Midcarders(basically the guys fighting for the world title today)
- US Title = Midcarders who arn't ready for the upper tier yet
- Hardcore or Crewserweight Title = Keep the rest of the roster busy
- Tag Titles = Tag Teams
- Women's Title = Divas
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Post by HVMMONS on Aug 28, 2013 13:31:42 GMT -5
Great matches as well, Kane v. Big Show v. Raven is defiantly my favorite. While the matches wern't always the prettiest the segments were great and it was a way to give us something different and unique during the shows. Obviously the Hardcore Title wouldn't work in todays "PG" era but the title scene would work much better today if we had... - WWE Title = Main Eventers - IC Title = Upper Midcarders(basically the guys fighting for the world title today) - US Title = Midcarders who arn't ready for the upper tier yet - Hardcore or Crewserweight Title = Keep the rest of the roster busy - Tag Titles = Tag Teams - Women's Title = Divas Exactly, I agree 100% |
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Post by drifter on Aug 28, 2013 14:05:24 GMT -5
You can't talk about the Hardcore Title, and not mention Raven vs. Rhyno
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Post by y2josh on Aug 28, 2013 14:16:31 GMT -5
Road Dogg's run as Hardcore champ was my favorite, that much I remember, but I honestly don't remember why.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2013 14:17:52 GMT -5
I loved the division when it stopped being a 12 second spot on Raw with Crash.
My favorite match was RVD vs.Jerry Lynn from Sunday Night Heat.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2013 14:40:26 GMT -5
Road Dogg's run as Hardcore champ was my favorite, that much I remember, but I honestly don't remember why. Mine too. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2013 14:44:17 GMT -5
I legit bought the old WWF Hardcore DVD just so I could see that Crash 24/7 series of matches with the Posse and The Headbangers. Good memories.
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Post by Arthur Speaks on Aug 28, 2013 17:56:12 GMT -5
While the matches wern't always the prettiest the segments were great and it was a way to give us something different and unique during the shows. Obviously the Hardcore Title wouldn't work in todays "PG" era but the title scene would work much better today if we had... - WWE Title = Main Eventers - IC Title = Upper Midcarders(basically the guys fighting for the world title today) - US Title = Midcarders who arn't ready for the upper tier yet - Hardcore or Crewserweight Title = Keep the rest of the roster busy - Tag Titles = Tag Teams - Women's Title = Divas Oh yeah, that's the idea. |
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Aug 28, 2013 18:14:29 GMT -5
The Hardcore Battle Royal from WM2000 is definitely in my top 15 favorite matches of all-time. So much fun to watch, and the botched ending made it even better.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2013 18:26:05 GMT -5
While the matches wern't always the prettiest the segments were great and it was a way to give us something different and unique during the shows. Obviously the Hardcore Title wouldn't work in todays "PG" era but the title scene would work much better today if we had... - WWE Title = Main Eventers - IC Title = Upper Midcarders(basically the guys fighting for the world title today) - US Title = Midcarders who arn't ready for the upper tier yet - Hardcore or Crewserweight Title = Keep the rest of the roster busy - Tag Titles = Tag Teams - Women's Title = Divas Bingo..... the Cruiserweight title in particular could be a valuable tool to occupy Sin Cara Hunico Justin Gabriel Tyson Kidd Yoshi Tatsu keep it SD exclusive & Vince could even use his business relationship with whoever in Japan to bring in challengers to legitimise the belt.the job could be returned in Japan where WWE fans wouldnt see it. in this respect Bischoff had the right idea from day 1 in WCW. |
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Post by cordless2016 on Aug 28, 2013 21:33:04 GMT -5
While the matches wern't always the prettiest the segments were great and it was a way to give us something different and unique during the shows. Obviously the Hardcore Title wouldn't work in todays "PG" era but the title scene would work much better today if we had... - WWE Title = Main Eventers - IC Title = Upper Midcarders(basically the guys fighting for the world title today) - US Title = Midcarders who arn't ready for the upper tier yet - Hardcore or Crewserweight Title = Keep the rest of the roster busy - Tag Titles = Tag Teams - Women's Title = Divas Bingo..... the Cruiserweight title in particular could be a valuable tool to occupy Sin Cara Hunico Justin Gabriel Tyson Kidd Yoshi Tatsu keep it SD exclusive & Vince could even use his business relationship with whoever in Japan to bring in challengers to legitimise the belt.the job could be returned in Japan where WWE fans wouldnt see it. in this respect Bischoff had the right idea from day 1 in WCW. Totally agree. There are alot of "smaller" guys who literally have done nothing for what seems like ages. Before he was injured Tyson Kidd showed he can really get the crowd behind him and w/ his apperances on Total Divas he would be the perfect guy to build a new Cruiserweight divison around. I think he'd do great w/ a reign similar to Christian's last ECW Title reign. Give Kidd a long run and have him defending against a variety of opponents. I miss that title a ton and it was a big part as to why SmackDown was so great during 02/03. I'd have a tournament to crown a new champ w/ Kidd and Mysterio in the finals and Rey passing to torch of the Cruiserweight division to him. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2013 5:40:36 GMT -5
yup great idea.
I think we all know that Rey has officially "had it" physically and this would be a good thing for him to do on the way out.
plus all this would give SD! its own identity(which it sorely needs)
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Post by LeighD on Aug 30, 2013 5:44:48 GMT -5
I wholeheartedly agree with everything you guys are saying about the CW title. In WCW, the title was defended against an array of diverse, international talent. For me this was sweet, because we had a chance to see other competitors from around the world showcasing not only their talent but colorful attires and their cultural style. It was one of many awesome notions Nitro offered. Kidd could definitely be the focal point of the division for the moment.
On topic, the hardcore title was fun as hell back in the day but like many have already said it just wouldn't work in WWE's current environment.
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Post by Squared² on Aug 31, 2013 18:21:19 GMT -5
Little known fact the hardcore title was once held by one of godfathers hoes
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Post by JC Motors on Sept 1, 2013 18:29:22 GMT -5
Pat Patterson and Gerald Brisco were really great Hardcore Champions. That King of The Ring 2000 Hardcore Evening gown match was genius.
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Post by Nivro™ on Sept 1, 2013 18:33:26 GMT -5
It had its moments but I never was really a big fan. The loss of the Hardcore Title did nothing to effect the business.
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