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Post by slappy on Sept 3, 2013 4:10:55 GMT -5
It's beginning. Russia has detected two ballistic objects fired toward the eastern Mediterranean.
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Post by slappy on Sept 3, 2013 5:31:22 GMT -5
At 4:27 AM, Israel said they were not aware of any missile launches. At 4:43 AM, the US said they had no idea about the missile launch.
Exactly one hour after Israel's statement, they announced they actually were aware of it because they and the US were the ones that launched the missiles, however it was only a test.
And now, 33 minutes later the US is denying involvement but says they were notified.
Why would Israel deny it then say they did it along side the US if the US wasn't involved?
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Post by That 80s Guy on Sept 3, 2013 9:12:26 GMT -5
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Sept 3, 2013 12:35:20 GMT -5
Well, all the noises in Washington seem to be that they're going to support Obama and probably overwhelmingly so. Kerry and the Democrats are actually in agreement with McCain, Boehner and company on this one. When this goes south, I'm sure he will be the first person to blame Congress and wash his hands of the entire affair. Not a bad political move on his part TBH.
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Post by jb38 on Sept 3, 2013 12:55:35 GMT -5
The Bible clearly speaks of the final battle which will take place in the valley of Meggido (Armegeddon).It also says you will hear of wars and rumours of wars but the end is not yet and these things must come to pass, but is the beginning of sorrows.The Bible mentions Gog and Magog which is clearly Russia. China and its 200 million man army will come down the Euphrates river.We are living in the last days of the planet earth, but good news Jesus is coming to crush his enemies and set up his kingdom on the new earth, for the old shall pass away.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Sept 3, 2013 12:57:50 GMT -5
The Bible clearly speaks of the final battle which will take place in the valley of Meggido (Armegeddon).It also says you will hear of wars and rumours of wars but the end is not yet and these things must come to pass, but is the beginning of sorrows.The Bible mentions Gog and Magog which is clearly Russia. China and its 200 million man army will come down the Euphrates river.We are living in the last days of the planet earth, but good news Jesus is coming to crush his enemies and set up his kingdom on the new earth, for the old shall pass away. Heard the exact same thing about Saddam Hussein. That was 20 years ago. Meh.
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Sept 4, 2013 12:24:55 GMT -5
The Bible clearly speaks of the final battle which will take place in the valley of Meggido (Armegeddon).It also says you will hear of wars and rumours of wars but the end is not yet and these things must come to pass, but is the beginning of sorrows.The Bible mentions Gog and Magog which is clearly Russia. China and its 200 million man army will come down the Euphrates river.We are living in the last days of the planet earth, but good news Jesus is coming to crush his enemies and set up his kingdom on the new earth, for the old shall pass away. The Bible speaks of a lot of things, none of which make the least bit of sense. No one knows who wrote the book of Revelation except that his name was John. The most logical explanation is that this John was a refugee that escaped from Caesar Nero's persecution of the Christians (666 actually represents Caesar Nero, thus making the number 666 the mark of the "anti-Christ") who went mad and wrote a book about "demons rising from the ground" the sun turning black, the moon turning red among other ridiculous "prophecies". Sorry to disappoint, but there isn't going to be a rapture or a tribulation or an anti-Christ and there certainly isn't going to be an Armageddon. All the death and destruction that will be coming within the next few days/weeks/months/years will all be man made, nothing Biblical about it.
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Post by Kliquid on Sept 4, 2013 12:28:53 GMT -5
Once again, the libertarians are the only ones with any balls.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Sept 4, 2013 12:44:11 GMT -5
The Bible clearly speaks of the final battle which will take place in the valley of Meggido (Armegeddon).It also says you will hear of wars and rumours of wars but the end is not yet and these things must come to pass, but is the beginning of sorrows.The Bible mentions Gog and Magog which is clearly Russia. China and its 200 million man army will come down the Euphrates river.We are living in the last days of the planet earth, but good news Jesus is coming to crush his enemies and set up his kingdom on the new earth, for the old shall pass away. The Bible speaks of a lot of things, none of which make the least bit of sense. No one knows who wrote the book of Revelation except that his name was John. The most logical explanation is that this John was a refugee that escaped from Caesar Nero's persecution of the Christians (666 actually represents Caesar Nero, thus making the number 666 the mark of the "anti-Christ") who went mad and wrote a book about "demons rising from the ground" the sun turning black, the moon turning red among other ridiculous "prophecies". Sorry to disappoint, but there isn't going to be a rapture or a tribulation or an anti-Christ and there certainly isn't going to be an Armageddon. All the death and destruction that will be coming within the next few days/weeks/months/years will all be man made, nothing Biblical about it. Again, your hatred for all things religious blinds you. While we don't know a whole lot about John the Revelator (though tradition claims he's the same John that wrote the Gospel and the three epistles that bear his name scholars differ on this), we do know that it was written around the time of the persecution by Domitian, not Nero as it was written decades after Nero was dead. Whether he was mad or whether it was a truly revelatory vision of the last days is a matter of faith, nothing more or nothing less. Personally, I believe that there are some aspects of the book that are prophetic. I don't claim to know when they're going to happen though. Every time crap goes down in the Middle East I hear people talk about Armageddon, the Anti-Christ and the battle to end all battles. It's been said as long as I've been around. It was said in the 70s when Israel became a nation. It'll be said again in the future.
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Post by Kliquid on Sept 4, 2013 12:47:12 GMT -5
Ron Paul the psychic
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Sept 4, 2013 16:02:07 GMT -5
The Bible speaks of a lot of things, none of which make the least bit of sense. No one knows who wrote the book of Revelation except that his name was John. The most logical explanation is that this John was a refugee that escaped from Caesar Nero's persecution of the Christians (666 actually represents Caesar Nero, thus making the number 666 the mark of the "anti-Christ") who went mad and wrote a book about "demons rising from the ground" the sun turning black, the moon turning red among other ridiculous "prophecies". Sorry to disappoint, but there isn't going to be a rapture or a tribulation or an anti-Christ and there certainly isn't going to be an Armageddon. All the death and destruction that will be coming within the next few days/weeks/months/years will all be man made, nothing Biblical about it. Again, your hatred for all things religious blinds you. While we don't know a whole lot about John the Revelator (though tradition claims he's the same John that wrote the Gospel and the three epistles that bear his name scholars differ on this), we do know that it was written around the time of the persecution by Domitian, not Nero as it was written decades after Nero was dead. Whether he was mad or whether it was a truly revelatory vision of the last days is a matter of faith, nothing more or nothing less. Personally, I believe that there are some aspects of the book that are prophetic. I don't claim to know when they're going to happen though. Every time crap goes down in the Middle East I hear people talk about Armageddon, the Anti-Christ and the battle to end all battles. It's been said as long as I've been around. It was said in the 70s when Israel became a nation. It'll be said again in the future. So what exactly am I so blind about? It's the most rational and logical explanation. If you honestly believe the book of Revelation is true and not the ranting and ravings of a lunatic and that demons are going to start coming up from the ground and that all kinds of other absurd and crazy sh*t is going to happen, then you are not of sound mind and do not have the capabilities of rational and logical thinking. People can't predict things, there is not one thing in the book of Revelation (or the entire Bible for that matter) that is true and there is absolutely no evidence to prove otherwise. I don't know if you think I've been an Atheist my whole life or what, but I've actually been raised a Christian and blindly followed the faith for nearly my whole life. I know what I'm talking about, this isn't some Biblical prophecy, this is reality and people need to get with the program and realize their imaginary friend won't be coming to save them. Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Atheists, we're all going to suffer the same, we're all going to be stuck on this planet and the only way out is death. We're all going to be in this mess together.
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Post by slappy on Sept 4, 2013 16:07:49 GMT -5
Once again, the libertarians are the only ones with any balls. Who are you including in that category?
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Sept 4, 2013 16:49:10 GMT -5
Again, your hatred for all things religious blinds you. While we don't know a whole lot about John the Revelator (though tradition claims he's the same John that wrote the Gospel and the three epistles that bear his name scholars differ on this), we do know that it was written around the time of the persecution by Domitian, not Nero as it was written decades after Nero was dead. Whether he was mad or whether it was a truly revelatory vision of the last days is a matter of faith, nothing more or nothing less. Personally, I believe that there are some aspects of the book that are prophetic. I don't claim to know when they're going to happen though. Every time crap goes down in the Middle East I hear people talk about Armageddon, the Anti-Christ and the battle to end all battles. It's been said as long as I've been around. It was said in the 70s when Israel became a nation. It'll be said again in the future. So what exactly am I so blind about? It's the most rational and logical explanation. If you honestly believe the book of Revelation is true and not the ranting and ravings of a lunatic and that demons are going to start coming up from the ground and that all kinds of other absurd and crazy sh*t is going to happen, then you are not of sound mind and do not have the capabilities of rational and logical thinking. People can't predict things, there is not one thing in the book of Revelation (or the entire Bible for that matter) that is true and there is absolutely no evidence to prove otherwise. I don't know if you think I've been an Atheist my whole life or what, but I've actually been raised a Christian and blindly followed the faith for nearly my whole life. I know what I'm talking about, this isn't some Biblical prophecy, this is reality and people need to get with the program and realize their imaginary friend won't be coming to save them. Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Atheists, we're all going to suffer the same, we're all going to be stuck on this planet and the only way out is death. We're all going to be in this mess together. If you really, truly believe there is no truth in the Bible or any other religion, then you are as close minded as the most hardcore true believer. That's an entirely different thread though.
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Post by purpleoutsider on Sept 4, 2013 22:42:49 GMT -5
So what exactly am I so blind about? It's the most rational and logical explanation. If you honestly believe the book of Revelation is true and not the ranting and ravings of a lunatic and that demons are going to start coming up from the ground and that all kinds of other absurd and crazy sh*t is going to happen, then you are not of sound mind and do not have the capabilities of rational and logical thinking. People can't predict things, there is not one thing in the book of Revelation (or the entire Bible for that matter) that is true and there is absolutely no evidence to prove otherwise. I don't know if you think I've been an Atheist my whole life or what, but I've actually been raised a Christian and blindly followed the faith for nearly my whole life. I know what I'm talking about, this isn't some Biblical prophecy, this is reality and people need to get with the program and realize their imaginary friend won't be coming to save them. Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Atheists, we're all going to suffer the same, we're all going to be stuck on this planet and the only way out is death. We're all going to be in this mess together. If you really, truly believe there is no truth in the Bible or any other religion, then you are as close minded as the most hardcore true believer. That's an entirely different thread though. "This offends my views so much that I'm going to blow up that building," said no atheist ever. In order to as truly close minded as the most hardcore believer, you have to murder people who disagree with you, including doctors.
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Post by slappy on Sept 4, 2013 22:55:01 GMT -5
If you really, truly believe there is no truth in the Bible or any other religion, then you are as close minded as the most hardcore true believer. That's an entirely different thread though. "This offends my views so much that I'm going to blow up that building," said no atheist ever. In order to as truly close minded as the most hardcore believer, you have to murder people who disagree with you, including doctors. Maybe they didn't do it because of their atheism but atheists have committed some of the worst atrocities in world history.
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Post by Focalin on Sept 4, 2013 22:55:24 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2013 0:00:16 GMT -5
So what exactly am I so blind about? It's the most rational and logical explanation. If you honestly believe the book of Revelation is true and not the ranting and ravings of a lunatic and that demons are going to start coming up from the ground and that all kinds of other absurd and crazy sh*t is going to happen, then you are not of sound mind and do not have the capabilities of rational and logical thinking. People can't predict things, there is not one thing in the book of Revelation (or the entire Bible for that matter) that is true and there is absolutely no evidence to prove otherwise. I don't know if you think I've been an Atheist my whole life or what, but I've actually been raised a Christian and blindly followed the faith for nearly my whole life. I know what I'm talking about, this isn't some Biblical prophecy, this is reality and people need to get with the program and realize their imaginary friend won't be coming to save them. Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Atheists, we're all going to suffer the same, we're all going to be stuck on this planet and the only way out is death. We're all going to be in this mess together. If you really, truly believe there is no truth in the Bible or any other religion, then you are as close minded as the most hardcore true believer. That's an entirely different thread though. I'm an atheist as well. I don't believe in anything that can't be proven by science. The thing about science is no possibility is ruled out. Although there is no evidence that any sort of god exists, if there ever is a time when facts point to a god, then I will believe in it. I think the chances of that happening, however, are very, very improbable.
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Post by purpleoutsider on Sept 5, 2013 0:56:39 GMT -5
"This offends my views so much that I'm going to blow up that building," said no atheist ever. In order to as truly close minded as the most hardcore believer, you have to murder people who disagree with you, including doctors. Maybe they didn't do it because of their atheism but atheists have committed some of the worst atrocities in world history. I'd rather people did stuff because THEY decided to do it. Personally, I have never murdered anyone. Why? Is it because I'm afraid of being burned alive for all eternity by a red and scaly man with a bifurcated tail carrying a hayfork? No. The perceived consequences / rewards should never be the only reason you don't do something. Do or don't do something, don't check first if someone 2000 years ago put it in a book first. We should be past not knowing our own morals at this point.
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Post by slappy on Sept 5, 2013 1:02:25 GMT -5
Maybe they didn't do it because of their atheism but atheists have committed some of the worst atrocities in world history. I'd rather people did stuff because THEY decided to do it. Personally, I have never murdered anyone. Why? Is it because I'm afraid of being burned alive for all eternity by a red and scaly man with a bifurcated tail carrying a hayfork? No. The perceived consequences / rewards should never be the only reason you don't do something. Do or don't do something, don't check first if someone 2000 years ago put it in a book first. We should be past not knowing our own morals at this point. Killing someone is wrong. I don't see how it's worse because someone killed someone in the name of religion or better because they didn't. And they do decide to do it. They aren't being forced. They choose to kill in the name of whatever. Thou shalt not kill is in the Bible. Should we dismiss it because it is?
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Post by Kliquid on Sept 5, 2013 1:16:57 GMT -5
Once again, the libertarians are the only ones with any balls. Who are you including in that category? Amash, Paul, Cruz, etc. I say they're the ones with balls because they will stand up to the President and their own party leadership, making the case that it is not only fiscally irresponsible, but also morally irresponsible to get involved in Syria.
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