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Post by MichaelTheMartian on Sept 16, 2013 4:20:15 GMT -5
Instead of it being a PPV it should be a special RAW or Smackdown, no replacing the PPV, PPV's need to cut down one or two and NOC is a good concept for a RAW or Smackdown special. What do you guys think?
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Post by slappy on Sept 16, 2013 4:23:57 GMT -5
Clash of the Champions
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Post by Lewscher on Sept 16, 2013 5:24:32 GMT -5
so you mean to say, you want WWE to do EXACTLY what TNA both is, and has been doing, for a while now?
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Post by Triple S on Sept 16, 2013 6:32:54 GMT -5
I do agree that Night of Champions should be a special show and that Pay-Per-Views should be cut down.
However, the way TNA is doing it is lackluster and confusing.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Sept 16, 2013 7:21:20 GMT -5
WWE is not going to cut the PPV just because some kid on the Internet wants them to. They'll cut PPVs when their figures indicate that doing so would be profitable.
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Post by bababooey on Sept 16, 2013 7:25:24 GMT -5
I do agree that Night of Champions should be a special show and that Pay-Per-Views should be cut down. However, the way TNA is doing it is lackluster and confusing. Totally agree with you. The TNA specials don't seem special at all. If it wasn't for the hashtag with the name on the screen I'd think I was just watch a regular impact.
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Post by Triple S on Sept 16, 2013 7:46:37 GMT -5
WWE is not going to cut the PPV just because some kid on the Internet wants them to. They'll cut PPVs when their figures indicate that doing so would be profitable. That's cute. Too bad nobody cares what you think. Not once did he say "they should do this because I say they should". He believes it would be a good/interesting concept, as do others... there's very good and valid statements that make this a slightly interesting topic. Better than half of the threads on this board.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Sept 16, 2013 7:58:57 GMT -5
WWE is not going to cut the PPV just because some kid on the Internet wants them to. They'll cut PPVs when their figures indicate that doing so would be profitable. That's cute. Too bad nobody cares what you think. Not once did he say "they should do this because I say they should". He believes it would be a good/interesting concept, as do others... there's very good and valid statements that make this a slightly interesting topic. Better than half of the threads on this board. Sorry that common sense upsets you, but you're wrong. Kids saying "I do agree that Night of Champions should be a special show and that Pay-Per-Views should be cut down" without any evidence supporting such statements is just nonsense, and completely invalid. They're just repeating things they heard someone else say without understanding why. The fact of the matter is that the sole reason WWE would cut pay-per-views is if doing so would make them more money -- for example, if cutting Night of Champions and Battleground would result in Hell in a Cell drawing enough buys to compensate for the lack of revenue from two other shows. Clearly, WWE doesn't have any data suggesting that would happen, or they'd be doing it. So we can all say "Night of Champions should be a special show and Pay-Per-Views should be cut down" until the cows come home, but really all we're doing is announcing what we would do in our figure federations and WWE videogame Universe modes. WWE is in the wrestling business. They make their decisions based on business. We don't, so "they should do this" and "they should do that" can make one seem very silly if the idea is... Bad for business.
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Post by Triple S on Sept 16, 2013 8:42:21 GMT -5
It's a forum, a place to share sensible ideas. Whether they're realistic, or just an idea that isn't ridiculously farfetched. You just come off juvenile calling people "kids".
I do respect you replying with a differing opinion, though. Better than "they won't do it because some kid thinks they should".
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Post by Edge618 on Sept 16, 2013 12:21:15 GMT -5
I do agree that Night of Champions should be a special show and that Pay-Per-Views should be cut down. However, the way TNA is doing it is lackluster and confusing. Totally agree with you. The TNA specials don't seem special at all. If it wasn't for the hashtag with the name on the screen I'd think I was just watch a regular impact. Lol wut? TNAs specials definitely aren't PPV quality that you'd pay money for, but you can def tell the difference between a regular impact, come on. Each special has had great matches and multiple titles changes with the X and World belt. What else can you ask for.
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Post by Triple S on Sept 16, 2013 12:26:13 GMT -5
Every TNA event feels like an Impact.
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Post by @Sweetbob on Sept 16, 2013 13:17:23 GMT -5
One of the MANY main reasons WCW went out of business is that they put too many PPV-like matches on free TV to compete with RAW. The biggest example was the Hogan vs. Goldberg match.
TNA will fall into that void if they don't change up their strategy. I know TNA is doing this to cut costs somehow, but it's going to be a problem going forward. They will eventually need to do at least six PPVs a year.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Sept 16, 2013 13:24:17 GMT -5
It's a solid idea for a gimmick PPV if WWE handles it properly. Last night was pretty good, but could have been better. The reason? The talent WWE has right now. The WHC match was one big constant botch fest between two older guys. Ziggler could easily be in that picture. The problem isn't the PPV themes, it's the lack of consistent talent and proper booking. I have no issues with Night of Champions.
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Post by punksnotdead on Sept 16, 2013 13:56:07 GMT -5
TNA is ahead on the curve on reducing their PPV events, that's not to say their marketing and execution have been great. PPV is going away. UFC is transitioning away from it because they want to compete with the NFL someday. If WWE gets their channel going, they will transition away from everything but Mania from what we've read. So while it's not going to happen over night, it's definitely something I expect to see. NOCs, like King of the Ring or Cyber Sunday, work as a special edition of Raw imo. Last nights PPV pretty much was a TV special with no commercials. I think WWE could really profit from a 4 event PPV schedule. If WWE was only going to have 4 events a year, I'd sign up for it, similar to NFL ticket, to get all 4 events. It's really a matter of quality versus quantity. Would WWE be more profitable pumping all their energy into 4 events or giving a solid effort over 12-13 events? If I were to guess, the big issue is the live event gates. PPVs feel special to a live crowd, so that's probably where WWE stands to be hurt the most by reducing the number of PPVs, more so than PPV buys imo.
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Post by Triple S on Sept 16, 2013 14:10:06 GMT -5
NOCs, like King of the Ring or Cyber Sunday, work as a special edition of Raw imo. Last nights PPV pretty much was a TV special with no commercials. Exactly my point. Even an event like TLC could easily be a special RAW to boost ratings.
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Post by 👑🇵🇭⭐️ on Sept 16, 2013 14:52:03 GMT -5
I would like WWE to take Night Of Champions off the WWE Pay Per View list. I wouldn’t like WWE making Night Of Champions a Raw or Smackdown special. Instead, I would like the Night Of Champions concept incorporated into every single WWE PPV going forward. I would like to see every Belt in the WWE displayed at every WWE PPV. I would like to see every Title in the WWE featured at every WWE PPV. I would like to see every Championship in the WWE defended at every WWE PPV. I would like to see every Champion in the WWE wrestling at every WWE PPV. Every PPV should be a Night Of Champions.
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Post by McBlake on Sept 16, 2013 14:54:08 GMT -5
WWE is not going to cut the PPV just because some kid on the Internet wants them to. They'll cut PPVs when their figures indicate that doing so would be profitable. Yes... but a forum is for discussion and opinions. You could reply with this in 50% of threads, but where's the fun in that?
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Post by McBlake on Sept 16, 2013 14:57:30 GMT -5
I think the likes of NoC, MitB and KotR are much better PPV concepts than "Hell in a Cell" and such.
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Post by Triple S on Sept 16, 2013 16:20:41 GMT -5
I would like WWE to take Night Of Champions off the WWE Pay Per View list. I wouldn’t like WWE making Night Of Champions a Raw or Smackdown special. Instead, I would like the Night Of Champions concept incorporated into every single WWE PPV going forward. I would like to see every Belt in the WWE displayed at every WWE PPV. I would like to see every Title in the WWE featured at every WWE PPV. I would like to see every Championship in the WWE defended at every WWE PPV. I would like to see every Champion in the WWE wrestling at every WWE PPV. Every PPV should be a Night Of Champions. So you enjoy hot shotting the titles constantly?
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Post by Lewscher on Sept 16, 2013 16:34:40 GMT -5
One of the MANY main reasons WCW went out of business is that they put too many PPV-like matches on free TV to compete with RAW. The biggest example was the Hogan vs. Goldberg match. TNA will fall into that void if they don't change up their strategy. I know TNA is doing this to cut costs somehow, but it's going to be a problem going forward. They will eventually need to do at least six PPVs a year. theyre doing it because they needed to go on the road to make money/keep up with the demand and expand, and had X-amount of PPV's held in orlando to fulfil a contract there. so they're having MAIN live ppv's still but have the 'one night only ppvs' to fill a contract
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