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Post by "The Visionary" Eldniw on Sept 16, 2013 8:23:28 GMT -5
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Sept 16, 2013 8:34:39 GMT -5
Do you really want to go around firing shots at a place where everyone is armed and is trained to kill people for a living? How is that a good idea?
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Post by HHH316 on Sept 16, 2013 15:37:55 GMT -5
Just saw on the news it is up to 12 deaths. Very sad.
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Post by slappy on Sept 16, 2013 15:42:48 GMT -5
Do you really want to go around firing shots at a place where everyone is armed and is trained to kill people for a living? How is that a good idea? He killed 12 before they got him so it really didn't seem to matter that he was on a heavily guarded base. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2013 15:58:57 GMT -5
Wow
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Sept 16, 2013 23:12:49 GMT -5
Another nut with a gun who as always, unfortunately takes innocent people with him. Glad he's dead, it's just very unfortunate he took so many people with him.
Why don't these sickos just off themselves in a back field somewhere?? Why do they always have to take people with them?? I will never get it.
And isn't it great that you guys live in a country where he had the right to carry guns around?? Look where that right got him and look where that right got his innocent victims.
You can take your right to bare arms and shove it for all I care. It's a ridiculous right and it seems like it's doing more harm than good.
You give that right to the wrong people and look what ALWAYS happens....History will continue to repeat itself time and time again.
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Post by Thick Justice on Sept 17, 2013 1:38:00 GMT -5
Another nut with a gun who as always, unfortunately takes innocent people with him. Glad he's dead, it's just very unfortunate he took so many people with him. Why don't these sickos just off themselves in a back field somewhere?? Why do they always have to take people with them?? I will never get it. And isn't it great that you guys live in a country where he had the right to carry guns around?? Look where that right got him and look where that right got his innocent victims. You can take your right to bare arms and shove it for all I care. It's a ridiculous right and it seems like it's doing more harm than good. You give that right to the wrong people and look what ALWAYS happens....History will continue to repeat itself time and time again. 270 Million Guns in the US. Average of 9 out of 10 americans have guns. Yet far less killing in the US then in Iraq and Iran. |
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Post by King Silva on Sept 17, 2013 1:54:40 GMT -5
Really sad situation although I'm not exactly surprised..
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Post by slappy on Sept 17, 2013 2:23:04 GMT -5
Another nut with a gun who as always, unfortunately takes innocent people with him. Glad he's dead, it's just very unfortunate he took so many people with him. Why don't these sickos just off themselves in a back field somewhere?? Why do they always have to take people with them?? I will never get it. And isn't it great that you guys live in a country where he had the right to carry guns around?? Look where that right got him and look where that right got his innocent victims. You can take your right to bare arms and shove it for all I care. It's a ridiculous right and it seems like it's doing more harm than good. You give that right to the wrong people and look what ALWAYS happens....History will continue to repeat itself time and time again. Where this happened has very strict gun laws, some of the toughest in the nation. If someone is dead set on murdering people something like the law isn't going to stop him. So unless you confiscate and destroy every single gun, you will still have gun deaths. Jamaica has extremely restrictive gun laws and yet they still have a ton of gun deaths. You don't give rights. But it is annoying to turn every tragedy into this side vs that side. |
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Post by PhoeniX™: Valoween on Sept 17, 2013 6:09:14 GMT -5
Things like this are becoming more and more frequent. I'm not gonna be one of those people who blame guns themselves, it's clearly the people who own them who have issues.
I wonder if GTA V will get the blame for this?
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Sept 17, 2013 9:30:32 GMT -5
Do you really want to go around firing shots at a place where everyone is armed and is trained to kill people for a living? How is that a good idea? He killed 12 before they got him so it really didn't seem to matter that he was on a heavily guarded base. If anything I think this shows that armed schoolteachers are probably not the answer. |
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Sept 17, 2013 13:00:23 GMT -5
Just like Piers Morgan, I too am just sick and tired of the same old worn out gun debates over and over again.
I'm not sure I agree with Piers on everything he has to say, but without a doubt, I agree with what he said at the end. "There will be a next time."
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Post by slappy on Sept 17, 2013 15:43:56 GMT -5
He killed 12 before they got him so it really didn't seem to matter that he was on a heavily guarded base. If anything I think this shows that armed schoolteachers are probably not the answer. Yeah because one day it may be that teacher that decides to do it. |
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Post by jason1980s on Sept 17, 2013 18:08:51 GMT -5
And isn't it great that you guys live in a country where he had the right to carry guns around?? Look where that right got him and look where that right got his innocent victims. You can take your right to bare arms and shove it for all I care. It's a ridiculous right and it seems like it's doing more harm than good. You give that right to the wrong people and look what ALWAYS happens....History will continue to repeat itself time and time again. Great, great, great post! Forget adults being killed for just a moment. How many more children will be killed before someone has the guts in politics to put successful control over the gun situation. And by control I mean a FULL STOP aside from those who are supposed to protect the people. As for the 2nd amendment...all I have to say is just because it's old and set in stone doesn't mean it's right. It was written around the same time owning slaves was excepted practice. We all know that is wrong and the laws reflected it. What makes me so angry about the 2nd amendment is that it basically gives one free rain to kill. You have to own a gun to use a gun to kill. Sure if someone is wanting to kill people they will but it'll be a heck of a lot harder without that gun. Let me just wonder this about amendments and laws: Say there is a 20th amendment that cites "though shall be fruitful and multiply." A rapist gets it in his head that he can rape legally because he's "only" following the amendment, the law of the land, he's trying to get a woman to multiply. He gets before the police or if arrested gets before the judge and claims non guilty due to following the amendment. The way these 2nd amendment guys are they might as well let this rapist go! As Tony S. said "Hulk Hogan you can go straight to hell!" And I feel the same way about anyone who uses an old law to allow the murder of people, ESPECIALLY children! |
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Post by Nivro™ on Sept 17, 2013 18:24:11 GMT -5
 A Naval yard ya say? |
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Post by StingerSplash on Sept 17, 2013 20:58:13 GMT -5
Cain killed Abel with a rock.
It's a heart problem, not a gun problem.
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Post by slappy on Sept 17, 2013 21:04:22 GMT -5
And isn't it great that you guys live in a country where he had the right to carry guns around?? Look where that right got him and look where that right got his innocent victims. You can take your right to bare arms and shove it for all I care. It's a ridiculous right and it seems like it's doing more harm than good. You give that right to the wrong people and look what ALWAYS happens....History will continue to repeat itself time and time again. Great, great, great post! Forget adults being killed for just a moment. How many more children will be killed before someone has the guts in politics to put successful control over the gun situation. And by control I mean a FULL STOP aside from those who are supposed to protect the people. As for the 2nd amendment...all I have to say is just because it's old and set in stone doesn't mean it's right. It was written around the same time owning slaves was excepted practice. We all know that is wrong and the laws reflected it. What makes me so angry about the 2nd amendment is that it basically gives one free rain to kill. You have to own a gun to use a gun to kill. Sure if someone is wanting to kill people they will but it'll be a heck of a lot harder without that gun. Let me just wonder this about amendments and laws: Say there is a 20th amendment that cites "though shall be fruitful and multiply." A rapist gets it in his head that he can rape legally because he's "only" following the amendment, the law of the land, he's trying to get a woman to multiply. He gets before the police or if arrested gets before the judge and claims non guilty due to following the amendment. The way these 2nd amendment guys are they might as well let this rapist go! As Tony S. said "Hulk Hogan you can go straight to hell!" And I feel the same way about anyone who uses an old law to allow the murder of people, ESPECIALLY children! Who are the people that are supposed to protect us? The police? They have no duty to protect us.So there goes that argument. So if the 2nd amendment is bad because it is old then the 1st and 4th amendments are bad because they are old, right? The second amendment does not give people the right to kill. That's ludicrous. There is already a 20th amendment. Show me cases where someone has been found not guilty of murder and the judge cited the second amendment as the reason they were able to get away with it. "the rapist is only following the amendment" You do know what the second amendment says, right? Nowhere does it say it is ok to murder someone. So your analogy while not only being horrendous it is also way out there. You do know that not all gun owners kill people, right? Who is using the second amendment to excuse the killing of people? They may say someone has a right to own guns but they don't say they have the right to go somewhere and shoot it up. |
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Sept 17, 2013 21:50:41 GMT -5
Cain killed Abel with a rock. It's a heart problem, not a gun problem. This. There are numerous instances of people being killed that did not involve firearms. I don't think anyone ever said, "Damn I wanted to kill that guy, but I didn't have a gun." |
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Post by HR2X on Sept 17, 2013 22:19:59 GMT -5
Columbine - Gun Free Zone.
Virginia Tech - Gun Free Zone.
Sandy Hook - Gun Free Zone.
Aurora CO - Gun Free Zone.
Naval base shooting - Gun Free Zone.
Anyone else seeing a trend?
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Post by HR2X on Sept 17, 2013 22:24:54 GMT -5
There have also been reports of this guy having mental health issues. So the guns are not the problem.. the problem is the mental health system... but we'll overlook that just to further our anti-gun agenda, since it's for the children and everything.
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