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Post by Darkhawk on Sept 21, 2013 18:34:42 GMT -5
Inside the Ropes spoke to Memphis promoter and TNA Founder Jerry Jarrett about TNA's focus on hiring former WWE talents.
"That's one of the mistakes they made. They can't seem to get past the fact that when you bring in guys that WWE has let go, fans are going to see them as yesterday's soup. But of course you have to have someone who knows how to cultivate and create talent otherwise you have no choice but to use whoever's available, thats named talent. It's pretty obvious that they don't have anybody that knows how to create talent. I'm guessing, because I haven't seen the show in 2-3 years, but I'm sure there's talent there that could be superstars. Truth, Ron Killings was in TNA and then you saw when he went to WWE how Vince made him into a superstar. In the wrestling business, it's really not any secret, it's understanding that if you're making a movie. what are the ingredients you need? A compelling storyline, a great producer/director and great talent. You mix those ingredients and you get great cinema. But if you take this great star or talent and put him in a stinking movie with a stinking producer director, what do you get? and the wrestling business is a dance between the promoter or booker or writer and the talent. They have to be on the same page and they both have to be good."
Jerry also discussed the future of TNA Wrestling.
"I am amazed, because when I was there, Bob Carter called me at least two to three times a week and said "I can't lose any more money, Jerry" and I said, "You're needing to talk to your daughter, not to me. She's running the place." So I'm amazed that they are in business. I think at this point, it'safe to say that TNA will continue to be subsidized by Bob Carter until he dies. Then I think TNA will go the way of ECW and the territory days."
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Post by slappy on Sept 21, 2013 18:39:17 GMT -5
Jerry not Jeff.
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Post by Scotty on Sept 21, 2013 18:40:28 GMT -5
Might want to change your title.
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Post by OverTheEdge on Sept 21, 2013 19:13:31 GMT -5
In the thread maker's defense, I'm sure Jeff Jarrett is just as equally disappointed.
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Post by Darkhawk on Sept 21, 2013 19:14:41 GMT -5
Sorry about that guys I changed the title. Thanks
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Post by deskjet on Sept 21, 2013 21:28:20 GMT -5
A Frukin men!
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Post by Nivro™ on Sept 21, 2013 21:38:15 GMT -5
What the ever man, everyone knows TNA was a multigazillion dollar company that had better ratings, matches and attendance then WWE ever could dream about until Hogan got there. Hogan ruined it all..He's the Anti Christ!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2013 21:43:56 GMT -5
What the ever man, everyone knows TNA was a multigazillion dollar company that had better ratings, matches and attendance then WWE ever could dream about until Hogan got there. Hogan ruined it all..He's the Anti Christ! TNA has severely declined in quality since Dixie took over.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2013 0:32:11 GMT -5
If these are Jerry's true thoughts about Dixie, why did he let Jeff sell TNA to her?
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Post by Lk™ on Sept 22, 2013 0:36:03 GMT -5
jerry jarrett discovered vladmir koslov. word class!
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Post by Booger Red on Sept 22, 2013 0:45:19 GMT -5
The quality of TNA's product has gone down ever since TNA brought Hogan and Bischoff in. For years, TNA have pushed established talent from other companies like WWE, WCW, and ECW and haven't been able to build any of their own stars apart from AJ Styles, and arguably guys like James Storm, Austin Aries and Bobby Roo. I can give credit where credit is due and say that the in-ring product of TNA has been pretty good, but the segments that they have can end up being boring or just plain awful. For example, a couple of weeks ago, not only did Hulk Hogan flub his lines by saying that Bully Ray was gonna wrestle "this week" (referring to the taped impact that would air a week later), he also stated that Bully was gonna defend against Sting, who could never fight for the TNA title again. The summer of 2012 was probably one of the best periods for TNA in recent memory with the beginning of the Aces and Eights angle and Austin Aries becoming the TNA World Champion.
I would like to see TNA have some compelling and interesting story-lines sprinkled in with the really good wrestling that they tend to have weekly and have some of the established guys like Angle, Sting, Bully Ray give some credibility to younger talent that could become the future of TNA.
TNA is almost as bad as WCW was, but at least TNA didn't grant some of the big names "Creative Control" on their contracts like Hogan and Nash did back then and they don't seem to have anything against the smaller talent who never really got a chance to be anything bigger than mid-card in WCW.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Sept 22, 2013 1:58:09 GMT -5
What the ever man, everyone knows TNA was a multigazillion dollar company that had better ratings, matches and attendance then WWE ever could dream about until Hogan got there. Hogan ruined it all..He's the Anti Christ! Really? Better ratings? Have you seen the average ratings when they started on Fox Sports Net? Sure, a 0.5 is a way better rating than a 3.5 on RAW. Sure, when they started on Spike, a 0.8 is way better than 3.0's on USA. Better attendance? Oh yeah, the 1,500 people in attendance is a bigger attendance than WWE could ever dream of with their 10,000 attendance. Now matches I can't disagree with you with the X-Division. But about TNA getting better ratings, attendance than WWE could ever dream of before Hogan got there? Come on, do you honestly believe that TNA got bigger ratings than WWE. The ratings TNA were getting/are getting was a quarter of what WWE was doing, till recently, it's still half of what WWE does now, and WWE does 2.9's, 3.0, 3.1s. Now if you were being sarcastic when you said that (which it's kinda hard for me to tell), then I apologize for this rant and good job on the joke.
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Post by Darkhawk on Sept 22, 2013 2:17:11 GMT -5
I've always thought TNA was getting there in 2009 they had some good story lines going on and great quality PPV's. TNA was doing so great on it's own until Hogan and Bischoff came in 2010. Got rid of the Six-sided ring, ended storylines, hired old past WWE stars, put the spotlight on themselves, ruined the X-Division and now ruined the Knockout's division and just trash TNA. I also hate how the World Elite disbanded, because both of them it was such a good group and Eric Young had a great thing going on being the leader.
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Post by Nivro™ on Sept 22, 2013 10:21:38 GMT -5
What the ever man, everyone knows TNA was a multigazillion dollar company that had better ratings, matches and attendance then WWE ever could dream about until Hogan got there. Hogan ruined it all..He's the Anti Christ! Really? Better ratings? Have you seen the average ratings when they started on Fox Sports Net? Sure, a 0.5 is a way better rating than a 3.5 on RAW. Sure, when they started on Spike, a 0.8 is way better than 3.0's on USA. Better attendance? Oh yeah, the 1,500 people in attendance is a bigger attendance than WWE could ever dream of with their 10,000 attendance. Now matches I can't disagree with you with the X-Division. But about TNA getting better ratings, attendance than WWE could ever dream of before Hogan got there? Come on, do you honestly believe that TNA got bigger ratings than WWE. The ratings TNA were getting/are getting was a quarter of what WWE was doing, till recently, it's still half of what WWE does now, and WWE does 2.9's, 3.0, 3.1s. Now if you were being sarcastic when you said that (which it's kinda hard for me to tell), then I apologize for this rant and good job on the joke.
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Post by tr56 on Sept 22, 2013 10:41:09 GMT -5
sounds about right and its a shame
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2013 13:01:12 GMT -5
Jerry Jarrett hates TNA. His thoughts on the promotion aren't really worth squat. Jerry was involved with the company for only a short time during the start up and he had a bunch of horrible ideas, trusted a bucnh of the wrong people and made it clear that he doesn't have a mind for today's business. Which is a shame, cause Jerry was brilliant back in the day, but his finger is no longer on the pulse.
Jerry barely put any effort in at TNA, as he was busy losing millions of dollars trying to figure out how to run a contracting business. He blames TNA for his contracting losses, because TNA distracted him. It made him a very bitter man. Jeff meanwhile, worked with Dixie Carter to turn TNA into a multimillion dollar business, with global reach. Jerry HATES that his son was able to spearhead a wrestling company that became a global entity, while he never could.
Jeff and Jerry haven't spoken for a decade, which is about the last time Jerry had anything to do with TNA. So any shots he takes at TNA, can't really be considered valid, even if you agree with them, because he's nothing more than a very bitter and disgruntled ex-employee.
And of course, many of the facts he got wrong. But never let those get in the way of a good TNA bashfest, I suppose.
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Post by JC Motors on Sept 22, 2013 16:07:07 GMT -5
If these are Jerry's true thoughts about Dixie, why did he let Jeff sell TNA to her? I've always wondered the same thing
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Post by Ian from 616Entertainment. on Sept 23, 2013 3:46:23 GMT -5
What the ever man, everyone knows TNA was a multigazillion dollar company that had better ratings, matches and attendance then WWE ever could dream about until Hogan got there. Hogan ruined it all..He's the Anti Christ! Really? Better ratings? Have you seen the average ratings when they started on Fox Sports Net? Sure, a 0.5 is a way better rating than a 3.5 on RAW. Sure, when they started on Spike, a 0.8 is way better than 3.0's on USA. Better attendance? Oh yeah, the 1,500 people in attendance is a bigger attendance than WWE could ever dream of with their 10,000 attendance. Now matches I can't disagree with you with the X-Division. But about TNA getting better ratings, attendance than WWE could ever dream of before Hogan got there? Come on, do you honestly believe that TNA got bigger ratings than WWE. The ratings TNA were getting/are getting was a quarter of what WWE was doing, till recently, it's still half of what WWE does now, and WWE does 2.9's, 3.0, 3.1s. Now if you were being sarcastic when you said that (which it's kinda hard for me to tell), then I apologize for this rant and good job on the joke. Astounding how some people can't read sarcasm. I'm not calling you out or anything, it's people as a whole. And yea, I see your note at the bottom about 'if you were being sarcastic..'
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Sept 23, 2013 17:51:40 GMT -5
Really? Better ratings? Have you seen the average ratings when they started on Fox Sports Net? Sure, a 0.5 is a way better rating than a 3.5 on RAW. Sure, when they started on Spike, a 0.8 is way better than 3.0's on USA. Better attendance? Oh yeah, the 1,500 people in attendance is a bigger attendance than WWE could ever dream of with their 10,000 attendance. Now matches I can't disagree with you with the X-Division. But about TNA getting better ratings, attendance than WWE could ever dream of before Hogan got there? Come on, do you honestly believe that TNA got bigger ratings than WWE. The ratings TNA were getting/are getting was a quarter of what WWE was doing, till recently, it's still half of what WWE does now, and WWE does 2.9's, 3.0, 3.1s. Now if you were being sarcastic when you said that (which it's kinda hard for me to tell), then I apologize for this rant and good job on the joke. Astounding how some people can't read sarcasm. I'm not calling you out or anything, it's people as a whole. And yea, I see your note at the bottom about 'if you were being sarcastic..' Lol, yeah, I couldn't really tell if it were sarcastic. My mistake for my rant, and I said it was a funny joke, so no harm done.
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Post by Brad on Oct 3, 2013 16:24:04 GMT -5
I can't say I disagree with Jerry
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