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Post by punksnotdead on Oct 29, 2013 10:10:45 GMT -5
I don't think the point was whether you are enjoying Big Show or whether you are pissed over Bryan. I think the point is that WWE continues to fail at establishing new stars. Punk and Bryan got themselves over huge. In both situations, I've seen WWE do everything they can to not let them rise above their golden boys, which is hilarious.
The spot that Big Show currently has would have worked for anyone. Why? It's anti establishment. Dolph Ziggler already had heat with Triple H from weeks back and he's been treated like sh*t. If he was doing the exact same thing Big Show is doing right now it could cement him as a top guy. Big Show is so stale it's ridiculous. The audience is reacting to the circumstances, not the guy. So it would have been nice to see the WWE put a younger guy over in that situation. Cody Rhodes honestly would have been perfect but they went the tag team route with him instead, which I won't complain about because it's been awesome.
I don't know how you guys can't be so sick of seeing the same sh*t over-and-over at this point. How many times are we going to see Cena do the exact same thing, going on 10 years now. I like Orton but the last thing he needs is to be WWE Champion right now when it's essentially a puppet role for Triple H. The Rock got that spot in 1998 when he was only 26. Big Show hasn't been interesting in like 15 years so there isn't anything that will convince me that guy has value in the main event. WWE hasn't even tried to position a guy as the next Cena, and it's just pathetic. I can't wait for Cena to go away because WWE needs to reap what they sow.
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Post by Punk on Oct 29, 2013 10:24:28 GMT -5
Ziggler hasn't been in a legit feud in over 2 PPVs. Let that sink in for a minute. Big E Langston is now in the 'US Title Challenger' Role. So, Dolph can go back to jobbing on the preshow from now on.
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Post by RybackV1 on Oct 29, 2013 11:03:33 GMT -5
Ziggler hasn't been in a legit feud in over 2 PPVs. Let that sink in for a minute. Big E Langston is now in the 'US Title Challenger' Role. So, Dolph can go back to jobbing on the preshow from now on. Just a couple months back it was : Dolph Ziggler world champion and big e body guard for the world champion. Now they are fighting for a spot on a pre show against the us champ.
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Post by Punk on Oct 29, 2013 11:10:17 GMT -5
Big E Langston is now in the 'US Title Challenger' Role. So, Dolph can go back to jobbing on the preshow from now on. Just a couple months back it was : Dolph Ziggler world champion and big e body guard for the world champion. Now they are fighting for a spot on a pre show against the us champ.
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Post by JWC on Oct 29, 2013 11:15:16 GMT -5
Before we know it: Cole: OH MY GOODNESS JOHN, ITS BIG SHOW, BIG SHOW BIG SHOW BY GOSH BIG SHOW IS FILLING HHHs CORVETTE WITH......DIET PEPSI!!! You know big show don't do no diet
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Post by RollinsFan44 on Oct 29, 2013 11:16:10 GMT -5
"Wight 3:16 says I just whipped your butt!" Wow, wow, wow. Hold the boat. It's your behind. haha !
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Post by SMK on Oct 29, 2013 14:06:51 GMT -5
the impatience and the impossible to please attitude of the internet is ing unbearable. Yep. The IWC has pretty much been unbearable since SummerSlam.
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Post by cordless2016 on Oct 29, 2013 15:39:17 GMT -5
I don't think the point was whether you are enjoying Big Show or whether you are pissed over Bryan. I think the point is that WWE continues to fail at establishing new stars. Punk and Bryan got themselves over huge. In both situations, I've seen WWE do everything they can to not let them rise above their golden boys, which is hilarious. The spot that Big Show currently has would have worked for anyone. Why? It's anti establishment. Dolph Ziggler already had heat with Triple H from weeks back and he's been treated like sh*t. If he was doing the exact same thing Big Show is doing right now it could cement him as a top guy. Big Show is so stale it's ridiculous. The audience is reacting to the circumstances, not the guy. So it would have been nice to see the WWE put a younger guy over in that situation. Cody Rhodes honestly would have been perfect but they went the tag team route with him instead, which I won't complain about because it's been awesome. I don't know how you guys can't be so sick of seeing the same sh*t over-and-over at this point. How many times are we going to see Cena do the exact same thing, going on 10 years now. I like Orton but the last thing he needs is to be WWE Champion right now when it's essentially a puppet role for Triple H. The Rock got that spot in 1998 when he was only 26. Big Show hasn't been interesting in like 15 years so there isn't anything that will convince me that guy has value in the main event. WWE hasn't even tried to position a guy as the next Cena, and it's just pathetic. I can't wait for Cena to go away because WWE needs to reap what they sow. This I what I've been saying since creating this thread. There is absolutely no reason why Big Show should be in such a prominent role when there are plenty of younger guys on the roster doing absolutely nothing. Cody loses his job and his family is humiliated for weeks by HHH yet wining the worthless tag titles makes everything okay. Ziggler and Miz were "punished" for weeks by HHH and Steph yet don't try to get any revenge. The PTP looked to be positioned to be the face team to take down the Shield yet nothing came of that either (Cody and Dustin have been entertaining but Cody should be going after HHH, not happy to be a tag champ). W/ Cena out it was the perfect opportunity to position some new guys in the top roles. Instead Bryan is now trying to overcome his trainer and Cena is back to being the WHC. When Hogan looked to be finally leaving in '93, Bret and Luger were positioned as the two new top faces. When Bret and Shawn had been doing their thing for a few years Austin was being positioned as the next top guy. When it looked like Austin and Rocky were leaving in 2002 Brock was set to be the next top guy. Brock suddenly leaving left 2004 w/out a true successor to the top guy spot but by 2005 Cena and Batista had taken those roles. Since then nobody has been put in a position to take Cena's spot. Punk and Bryan were both over huge with the fans but WWE booking seemed hell bent on making sure that they didn't surpass Cena and even Orton. People keep saying that everyone needs patience but its been the same story for years. Punk held the WWE Title for 400+ days yet the title was never really elevated because Punk was the #2 guy to Cena. Now Bryan seems to be going down the same path while Big Show is getting such a prominent role. I can't wait for the day that Cena steps away for good and the WWE has nobody to turn to because of their own stupid booking.
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Post by marino13 on Oct 29, 2013 15:41:43 GMT -5
Probably Triple H's fault.
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Post by Arthur Speaks on Oct 29, 2013 19:25:52 GMT -5
Before we know it: Cole: OH MY GOODNESS JOHN, ITS BIG SHOW, BIG SHOW BIG SHOW BY GOSH BIG SHOW IS FILLING HHHs CORVETTE WITH......DIET PEPSI!!! Cole: JOHN, KING, LOOK AT....LOOK AT BIG SHOW!!! OH MY GAWD!!! HE JUST CHOKESLAMMED ORTON THROUGH THE TABLE!!! MY GOD, FOR THE SIXTH TIME IN THREE WEEKS!!! WHAT AN UNPREDICTABLE TURN OF EVENTS HEADING INTO SURVIVOR SERIES!!! IF HE HITS THAT CHOKESLAM IN SIX DAYS, WE'RE GOING TO CROWN A NEW WWE CHAMPION!!! WHY IN GOD'S NAME AM I SHOUTING?! JOHN, PASS ME THE....THE....THE....THE INHALER!!!
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Post by RybackV1 on Oct 29, 2013 19:27:21 GMT -5
If survivor series seriously is headlined by Orton vs big show and Bryan/Punk/Miz vs Wyatt's then I might not even bother going to the event.
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Post by Punk on Oct 29, 2013 19:55:23 GMT -5
If survivor series seriously is headlined by Orton vs big show and Bryan/Punk/Miz vs Wyatt's then I might not even bother going to the event. Ryback vs Ziggler on pre-show.
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Post by RybackV1 on Oct 29, 2013 19:57:28 GMT -5
If survivor series seriously is headlined by Orton vs big show and Bryan/Punk/Miz vs Wyatt's then I might not even bother going to the event. Ryback vs Ziggler on pre-show. I've never seen ryback live. Looks like I still won't.
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Post by Punk on Oct 29, 2013 20:00:54 GMT -5
Ryback vs Ziggler on pre-show. I've never seen ryback live. Looks like I still won't. I saw Jerry Lawler kiss Cole's foot. I've seen things man.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Oct 29, 2013 20:04:15 GMT -5
Ryback vs Ziggler on pre-show. I've never seen ryback live. Looks like I still won't. LMAO what a stressful and depressing week it is for you. What's funny is how you nearly called the ending to the Punk/Ryback match on Raw with the Elbow through the Table but Punk submitting Ryback made it even worse. There's still a small chance for Ryback to make the live card.
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Post by Arthur Speaks on Oct 29, 2013 20:55:33 GMT -5
Ryback vs Ziggler on pre-show. I've never seen ryback live. Looks like I still won't. Match ends in a double countout when Triple H can't figure out who's more irrelevant to do the job. Why? Because it's best for business.
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Post by JWC on Oct 29, 2013 21:38:00 GMT -5
Ryback vs Ziggler on pre-show. I've never seen ryback live. Looks like I still won't. I've never even been to a wrestling show...
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Post by RybackV1 on Oct 29, 2013 21:39:49 GMT -5
I've never seen ryback live. Looks like I still won't. I've never even been to a wrestling show... You need to change that.
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Post by JWC on Oct 29, 2013 21:44:22 GMT -5
I've never even been to a wrestling show... You need to change that. Absolutely.
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Post by Brad on Oct 29, 2013 21:56:34 GMT -5
Honestly, I'm sick of Big Show in the main spotlight. He's a midcarder. Nothing more. I'm sorry but you're wrong. Big Show great. Probably the best big man in the business. His bumps are insane! Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using proboards
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