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Post by Evil Abed on Nov 7, 2013 17:00:15 GMT -5
I may be way off course here on this one, however Ive been catching up on old Raw episodes from late 2008 and wondering something. It seemed like throughout the majority of oct/nov/dec of 2008 they were heading towards a Shane vs Steph control of the company type of major storyline, possibly with vince returning down the road since steph kept referring to him as "out of the picture" and then in Jan they went with the famous Randy Orton punts Vince story. So I guess my question is does anyone know if this was the original rumored story they were going with or did things change somewhere around the new year. It seemed so random that one week steph kicks shane off raw only to have them united again after orton punted vince. It just seemed to me they were heading another direction with a major story arc for Mania 25. Thoughts?
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Post by RollinsFan44 on Nov 7, 2013 17:06:18 GMT -5
I've heard rumors that the spot at WrestleMania 25 in the match between Undertaker and Michaels where 'Taker dived onto the cameraman(who was Sim Snuka) was meant to catch Undertaker as he was diving to the outside and help HBK defeat the streak? Sounds like bs to me, but I read it somewhere and can't recall where.
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Post by ztj_wwf on Nov 7, 2013 18:01:35 GMT -5
I've heard rumors that the spot at WrestleMania 25 in the match between Undertaker and Michaels where 'Taker dived onto the cameraman(who was Sim Snuka) was meant to catch Undertaker as he was diving to the outside and help HBK defeat the streak? Sounds like bs to me, but I read it somewhere and can't recall where. Huh?
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Post by RollinsFan44 on Nov 8, 2013 2:51:56 GMT -5
I've heard rumors that the spot at WrestleMania 25 in the match between Undertaker and Michaels where 'Taker dived onto the cameraman(who was Sim Snuka) was meant to catch Undertaker as he was diving to the outside and help HBK defeat the streak? Sounds like bs to me, but I read it somewhere and can't recall where. Huh? No clue, think I read it on BleacherReport, so it's likely to not be true.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Nov 8, 2013 11:27:56 GMT -5
The original plan for Wrestlemania 25 was for Triple H to be the man at it in the main event, but HBK and Taker had other ideas half way through the show hahaha
Just goes to show that Triple H isn't really as great as he thinks he is. If he was so great, he could have brought the fans back in his match with Orton.
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Post by Jack on Nov 8, 2013 11:29:13 GMT -5
That match was just so awesome, glad they went the way they did.
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Post by Punk on Nov 8, 2013 11:33:41 GMT -5
No clue, think I read it on BleacherReport, so it's likely to not be true. He was meant to catch him, and was fired. That much is true.
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Post by Booger Red on Nov 8, 2013 11:44:26 GMT -5
The original plan for Wrestlemania 25 was for Triple H to be the man at it in the main event, but HBK and Taker had other ideas half way through the show hahaha Just goes to show that Triple H isn't really as great as he thinks he is. If he was so great, he could have brought the fans back in his match with Orton.Considering how personal the storyline between Triple H and Orton was at that time, the fact that their main event match at WrestleMania was a standard wrestling match instead of a stipulation match with no DQs and no count-outs really hurt them in my opinion. Plus it just seems really stupid to have a personal feud have a normal wrestling match on the grandest stage of them all, and the main event no less.
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Post by RollinsFan44 on Nov 8, 2013 13:30:48 GMT -5
No clue, think I read it on BleacherReport, so it's likely to not be true. He was meant to catch him, and was fired. That much is true. Ahh cool, so it was kind of true.
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Post by Punk on Nov 8, 2013 14:01:06 GMT -5
He was meant to catch him, and was fired. That much is true. Ahh cool, so it was kind of true. Theres probably more to it. I doubt it was having him help HBK win though.
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Post by RollinsFan44 on Nov 8, 2013 14:43:35 GMT -5
Ahh cool, so it was kind of true. Theres probably more to it. I doubt it was having him help HBK win though. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Don't really know what they were planning, any ideas Punk?
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Post by Punk on Nov 8, 2013 14:45:17 GMT -5
Theres probably more to it. I doubt it was having him help HBK win though. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Don't really know what they were planning, any ideas Punk? Internet says Sim Snuka was planned to join The Legacy, but nothing about UnderTaker though.
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Post by Booger Red on Nov 8, 2013 14:49:40 GMT -5
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Don't really know what they were planning, any ideas Punk? Internet says Sim Snuka was planned to join The Legacy, but nothing about UnderTaker though. I don't think so. Sim Snuka was just supposed to take Undertaker's dive, but because he was so far from outside the ring, Taker couldn't reach Snuka and Taker landed on the side of his shoulder and head. He wasn't fired immediately like the pyrotechnics guy that set Undertaker on fire at Elimination Chamber 2010, but I believe that his days in the company were numbered after that spot.
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Post by Next Man’s Yeeter on Nov 8, 2013 14:50:54 GMT -5
Jesus Christ. Snuka was meant to catch Undertaker on the dive to stop him breaking his neck. It wasn't a surprise reveal, he was just playing the cameraman that night to break Undertaker's fall. He wasn't going to take off the cameraman gear to go "It was me all along, Undertaker!" and end the streak. He was just there as a crashmat. He got fired 2-3 months later.
The Snuka Legacy thing ended six months before WrestleMania 25.
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Post by Punk on Nov 8, 2013 14:50:59 GMT -5
Internet says Sim Snuka was planned to join The Legacy, but nothing about UnderTaker though. I don't think so. Sim Snuka was just supposed to take Undertaker's dive, but because he was so far from outside the ring, Taker couldn't reach Snuka and Taker landed on the side of his shoulder and head. Well, I doubt they brought him up JUST To play the Camera Man catching UnderTaker. They obviously had a plan for him after that. But he botched it, got fired.
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Post by Booger Red on Nov 8, 2013 14:55:19 GMT -5
I don't think so. Sim Snuka was just supposed to take Undertaker's dive, but because he was so far from outside the ring, Taker couldn't reach Snuka and Taker landed on the side of his shoulder and head. Well, I doubt they brought him up JUST To play the Camera Man catching UnderTaker. They obviously had a plan for him after that. But he botched it, got fired. What would you have expected. Sim Snuka costing Undertaker the match at Mania 25 by posing as a cameraman,a la Edge at Survivor Series 2007 because he wanted to avenge his father's loss at Mania VII against Taker, becoming victim #1 of the streak?
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Post by Punk on Nov 8, 2013 14:59:22 GMT -5
Well, I doubt they brought him up JUST To play the Camera Man catching UnderTaker. They obviously had a plan for him after that. But he botched it, got fired. What would you have expected. Sim Snuka costing Undertaker the match at Mania 25 by posing as a cameraman,a la Edge at Survivor Series 2007 because he wanted to avenge his father's loss at Mania VII against Taker, becoming victim #1 of the streak? That's what Benji said. , don't make me repeat myself. Just go read the above messages again.
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Post by Arthur Speaks on Nov 9, 2013 16:28:51 GMT -5
Jesus Christ. Snuka was meant to catch Undertaker on the dive to stop him breaking his neck. It wasn't a surprise reveal, he was just playing the cameraman that night to break Undertaker's fall. He wasn't going to take off the cameraman gear to go "It was me all along, Undertaker!" and end the streak. He was just there as a crashmat. He got fired 2-3 months later. The Snuka Legacy thing ended six months before WrestleMania 25. I just watched it and it really sounds like Undertaker cracked his skull. Sim was so far away from 'Taker. There's no way he could've reached him. And I'm pretty sure Shawn knew it too which is why he had to push him into position.
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Post by mikey1974 on Nov 9, 2013 17:09:04 GMT -5
or,you know,maybe Sim Snuka had no plan to "break the streak" or help HBK. he was just used to be a fake cameraman that night to,like was said,catch Taker. then later on he would just debut as Sim Snuka and start wrestling. just cause he was there in a supporting role doesn't mean they had any plans for him to do anything noteworthy in the match. WWE has a history of using wrestlers who haven't debuted yet as referees,cameramen,druids,security,ringside fans,etc. whenever one of those roles needs to become physically involved in a spot.
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Post by mikey1974 on Nov 9, 2013 17:13:26 GMT -5
just realized I pretty much repeated what Next man's sweater said,LOL!
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