mrassbillygunn
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Post by mrassbillygunn on Nov 8, 2013 18:58:04 GMT -5
It really sucks that here in the UK you have to pay for a sky sports subscription to watch Raw and Smackdown. Wouldnt it be better for the WWE to have their product shown on a free channel? Like channel 4 or something for example. Maybe someone can explain the mechanics behind why sky sports have it and the free channels dont? Do they offer WWE more money or something? i know this will sound silly but id like to know the reason.
I wouldnt subscribe to the sports channels because they are too expensive and i know highlights are shown on sky 1 (i think) but i dont get that channel free either. Surely WWE would benefit for having their shows on "free" tv?
I remember back in the late 90s early 2000s they had some ppvs on channel 4 late at night that was awesome. Why did all that stop?
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Post by Brunt's Left Foot on Nov 8, 2013 19:15:47 GMT -5
WWF programming left Channel 4 because C4 didn't want it anymore. They got a lot of flak from regulators and parents because of how popular it was with kids, and all the weapon shots and nudity.
Why doesn't WWE air on free TV these days? Sky and WWE have a long relationship and I assume Sky pays them very well. I doubt the terrestrial channels, even if they wanted it, would pay what Sky are paying.
Lastly, if Channel 4's coverage in 2013 was anything like it was when they originally aired WWE.....yeah I'd rather keep it on Sky. And not have it butchered to pieces, made fun of, tons of commercials during it, and it airing on a hour and 45 minute delay.
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Post by Punk on Nov 8, 2013 19:32:35 GMT -5
Yes... Yes... Pay to watch... Right. I feel for you, man. I really do. But I've never had Sky Sports so I found other ways to watch it. I mean, you type this message on the internet but don't know a free way to watch. Even WWE on YouTube upload the important parts of Raw the day after if you're not willing to 'break the rules'.
I read a while ago that Armaggedon 2003 was meant to be shown on Channel 4 but wasn't due to some kind of issue? Botchamania posted something about it.
I remember 12 years ago - waking up the next morning and watching SummerSlam 2000. Or waking up at 1am to watch InVasion on Channel 4. Good times.
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Post by attitudesback on Nov 8, 2013 19:34:35 GMT -5
Royal Rumble 2000 was on Channel 4 I think. Still, don't think you'll get better than Sky in all honesty.
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Post by Brunt's Left Foot on Nov 8, 2013 19:35:17 GMT -5
Yes... Yes... Pay to watch... Right. I feel for you, man. I really do. But I've never had Sky Sports so I found other ways to watch it. I mean, you type this message on the internet but don't know a free way to watch. Even WWE on YouTube upload the important parts of Raw the day after if you're not willing to 'break the rules'. I read a while ago that Armaggedon 2003 was meant to be shown on Channel 4 but wasn't due to some kind of issue? Botchamania posted something about it. I remember 12 years ago - waking up the next morning and watching SummerSlam 2000. Or waking up at 1am to watch InVasion on Channel 4. Good times. Channel 4 gave up the rights to WWF PPVs in December 2001, so them airing Armageddon 2003 would have been very strange.
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Post by T on Nov 8, 2013 19:36:07 GMT -5
Royal Rumble 2000 was on Channel 4 I think. Still, don't think you'll get better than Sky in all honesty. It was. The delay came in handy that night, what with Mae Young and all that...
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RussellV1
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Post by RussellV1 on Nov 8, 2013 19:37:09 GMT -5
Wouldn't surprise me if BT made a move for WWE programming at some point
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Post by attitudesback on Nov 8, 2013 19:37:49 GMT -5
Royal Rumble 2000 was on Channel 4 I think. Still, don't think you'll get better than Sky in all honesty. It was. The delay came in handy that night, what with Mae Young and all that... Loved it :X
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Post by attitudesback on Nov 8, 2013 19:38:42 GMT -5
Wouldn't surprise me if BT made a move for WWE programming at some point Oh god no. BT Sports premier league coverage is utter dogcrape. Can't stand it, the way they have a fully set up pitch in the studio with goals and such.. what?!
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Post by Punk on Nov 8, 2013 19:45:59 GMT -5
Yes... Yes... Pay to watch... Right. I feel for you, man. I really do. But I've never had Sky Sports so I found other ways to watch it. I mean, you type this message on the internet but don't know a free way to watch. Even WWE on YouTube upload the important parts of Raw the day after if you're not willing to 'break the rules'. I read a while ago that Armaggedon 2003 was meant to be shown on Channel 4 but wasn't due to some kind of issue? Botchamania posted something about it. I remember 12 years ago - waking up the next morning and watching SummerSlam 2000. Or waking up at 1am to watch InVasion on Channel 4. Good times. Channel 4 gave up the rights to WWF PPVs in December 2001, so them airing Armageddon 2003 would have been very strange. Trying to find the link but I can't seem too. Oh! found it. Botchamania Facebook Page: Knew I wasn't ing crazy.
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Post by Hammersmith Hardman on Nov 8, 2013 19:50:13 GMT -5
They didn't know where to put PPV's around December 03 - January 04. Royal Rumble that year was on Setanta Sports.
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Post by Punk on Nov 8, 2013 19:55:23 GMT -5
You know loosing WWE on TV around 2002/2003 was probably one of the major reasons why I stopped watching in around that time.
What happened to Saturday morning SmackDown on Sky One?
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Post by Hammersmith Hardman on Nov 8, 2013 19:58:02 GMT -5
Another Channel 4/WWF thing regarding them not extending it's license. It certainly was never the worst thing they've shown even with Mae Young's saggy tits. This is a channel that has broadcast seedy shows since its inception.
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Post by Escape The Rules on Nov 8, 2013 22:00:56 GMT -5
This thread sure takes me back. WWF on Channel 4 from January 2000 - December 2001, Armageddon not broadcast in the UK. Setanta sports & so on.
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Post by Next Man’s Yeeter on Nov 8, 2013 23:09:23 GMT -5
Channel 4 had nothing to do with the Armageddon 2003 thing. It was purely down to renegotiating a deal with Sky about the PPVs and not reaching an agreement for a while after the previous one expired. Channel 4 lost interest in WWF programming after the Royal Rumble 2000, and had no intention of ever showing it again after the two year deal ran out.
WWE is on Sky rather than Freeview because Sky pays more for the rights than any other channel is willing to. Maybe that will change when the current deal expires and BT might swoop in, but I doubt it.
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Post by Brunt's Left Foot on Nov 9, 2013 5:23:26 GMT -5
For reference, the PPVs aired on Channel 4 were Royal Rumble 2000, Backlash 2000, Fully Loaded 2000, Armageddon 2000, Royal Rumble 2001, Backlash 2001, InVasion and Vengeance 2001.
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Post by hbkjason on Nov 9, 2013 5:50:42 GMT -5
Channel 4 ed over us long time fans. If it was not for Channel 4 then we very well could still possibly get all the WWE PPVs on Sky Sports still! The WWF and Sky were just about to start renegotiating there current deal and then Channel 4 suck their nose in and which ultimately led to Setanta Sports showing the Royal Rumble in 2003 on PPV Setanta went tits up which then resulted in Sky getting all the WWE programming back, but now they would show PPVs on Sky Box office. So yeah channel 4 also their coverage was just god awful cutting to a break while The Rock is in the middle of a promo really??? How any one can see Channel 4 showing the WWE as good times blows my mind. Channel 4 is the worst thing to happen to American wrestling in the UK our wallets still feel the effect of it to this day. One thing I find odd in regards to the way Sky broadcasts the WWE was there decision to remove Smackdown from Sky One. That surely had to be good for both Sky and the WWE to have a proper weekly WWE shown on a channel that all Sky customers gad.
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Post by Brunt's Left Foot on Nov 9, 2013 8:32:54 GMT -5
Channel 4 ed over us long time fans. If it was not for Channel 4 then we very well could still possibly get all the WWE PPVs on Sky Sports still! The WWF and Sky were just about to start renegotiating there current deal and then Channel 4 suck their nose in and which ultimately led to Setanta Sports showing the Royal Rumble in 2003 on PPV Setanta went tits up which then resulted in Sky getting all the WWE programming back, but now they would show PPVs on Sky Box office. So yeah channel 4 also their coverage was just god awful cutting to a break while The Rock is in the middle of a promo really??? How any one can see Channel 4 showing the WWE as good times blows my mind. Channel 4 is the worst thing to happen to American wrestling in the UK our wallets still feel the effect of it to this day. One thing I find odd in regards to the way Sky broadcasts the WWE was there decision to remove Smackdown from Sky One. That surely had to be good for both Sky and the WWE to have a proper weekly WWE shown on a channel that all Sky customers gad. I think you may have your dates mixed up a bit there. Setanta showed the Royal Rumble in 2004, and didn't go out of business until 2009. Channel 4's deal expiring did result in Box Office PPVs though. Royal Rumble 2002 was the first PPV on Sky Box Office, I remember because it was the first PPV I ever stayed up to watch live. The worst instance of Channel 4 showing commercials during a PPV was Royal Rumble 2001 where they cut to one during Big Show's return. Absolutely ridiculous. Also, Sky1 do occasionally still air SmackDown. They seem to alternate between SmackDown, Superstars and Experience.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2013 8:39:40 GMT -5
Wouldn't surprise me if BT made a move for WWE programming at some point i heard BT Sports is trying to get TNA like it will make a differences
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Post by Punk on Nov 9, 2013 8:41:25 GMT -5
Wouldn't surprise me if BT made a move for WWE programming at some point i heard BT Sports is trying to get TNA like it will make a differences They're already number 1 in the UK.
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