Roll ups/School Boys etc?

Good point I see where you're coming from, I can appreciate a heel maybes low blowing someone then rolling them up to increase heat, but quite often a lot of the faces (D-Bry) pull off roll ups and to me it makes them appear lucky rather than good......dunno maybes im just being fussy

Bryan hasn't really done that at all lately. In the summer when he was it was awesome though, I loved seeing the Master of the Small Package return vs Sheamus.

Sorry i ain't the biggest poster in this board but im a keen observer, i didn't realise there were ppl here who actually wrestled but good for you dude, hows it going for u?

There's actually few of us on here who are wrestlers. It's going pretty well thanks. Not been doing it for that long, though I've been booked for a few shows here and there for the promotion I'm at. It'll probably be quite a busy year for us all this year though as we have a helluva lot more halls and venues we've booked for shows this year than what we had last year.

It's a signal of their lack in creativity as it relates to match choreography. How many of you have seen a SHW go for a splash during a six man tag & suddenly the other two members of the downed man's team swoop in, catch the big man mid-flight, & tossed him aside to save the match?

When was the last time we saw an amateur style cradle of any variation? What about a well done backslide or someone figure out a way to maintain the position of a reversed figure-four & gain a DQ because the villain struck the applicant I'n the genitals? They have a cosmos of creative space only limited by the ingenuity of the bookers & athleticism/skill of the performers.

They are just apathetic or fixated in pandering to mediocrity,

I'm far more infuriated than you are such stupid storylines as Woods/Clay debacle than you know.
The fact that they are devaluing their roots doesn't make it right. Now I'm more untroubled to know what minority of my observations stand contrarian to you.

My observations are based from a perspective where profits aren't derived at the price of your profession's dignity.

There is a Latin term which means "I believe it because it is ridiculous." used to justify the modern religious practice. A similar phrase applies to me.

"If it wasn't fake, I wouldn't be into it." I grew up & will always enjoy authentic grappling, but the beauty of Professional Wrestling is the story telling comprised of the wrestling matches. Which is supplemented by the promos & segments designed to advance the plots being portrayed through the matches & characters in said matches. The very fact that it is NOT a sport, but a theatrical portrayal there of is why I'm so madly in love with the genre of artistic expression through the medium of stage acting & the creation of the illusion of combat.

When Killer Kawolski(or any wrestler from the past for that matter) refused to break character, it's an allusion to the "Illusionist's code of conduct". Never tell how the trick is executed. It's more reminiscent of method acting taken to the extreme, but it requires both tactics to complete the task of convincing the audience that you are in the struggle of your existence. This is the essence of "working the crowd".

My general point being that just as there is no justification for religion being a moral compass since there are no moral acts that Atheists cannot do equally well,(if not better) there is no reason technical wrestling should've ever fell by the wayside since it can be used to tell even better stories than mere brawling or the abuse of impractical gymnastic duo tricks. The implimentation of these moves under the mindset of preserving a believable psychology would have been FAR more effective in progressing the transition of pro-wrestling into a legitimate artform with it's dignity intact.

This is not to convey that the surreal characters & techniques seen in the genre are without value.
It's simply that they would posess even greater significance in a wrestling universe where the rules & the integrity of the sport being portrayed were revered.

The struggles of the characters would be even more compelling under the compression of the rules, & the desire of the participants to prove themselves under those rules in the most innovative methods possible, until they reach the insurmountable, boiling point of malice between them. Finally the decorum explodes like shrapnel & the climax is all the more rewarding.

It is the modern vaudeville under the umbrella of the grand plot of a broadway play with the continuation methods of a soap opera that travels like a circus & portrays the Shakespearean version of gladiators, but portrayed by actors who become their characters through method acting taken to it's most extreme intensities.
They used to anyway.

I could go on, but I'm afraid I'm wasting the taps of my fingers.

I was thinking that there weren't enough. I thought this thread was going to be a, "I miss roll ups and school boys" thread. Also, I don't see enough inside cradles.

In my opinion there isn't enough quick roll-ups. I miss all the different variations, the small package, backslide, victory roll, mahistrol cradle, etc. I also miss heels using the ropes for leverage.