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Post by Dan on Jan 28, 2014 14:42:42 GMT -5
I genuinely don't think it matters what they do for Mania. Most of us are going to sign up for the network, assuming you can, and get Mania for "free" anyway. Mania could end up being horrendous but I'm happy to spend $10 to be able to come on here and sh*t all over it. Especially if it means I get to watch WCW PPVs afterwards to make me feel better haha. There really isn't much turning back now. They have to commit to this thing because Batista won the Rumble. Unless they are going to have Batista say he isn't waiting until Mania, at which point Brock could light him up in the Chamber, setting up that feud for Mania. I guess the unthinkable could happen and Bryan could win the title going into Mania, but why blow your payoff, assuming there plans to be any kind of payoff at all? The biggest mistake of this entire thing was thinking Batista was somehow the man. Like he was going to walk back through the curtain like the Rock and people were going to care. Batista sucks, and now he's been worse than he was before, so horrendous. They are going to send him out there for 20 minutes to close Mania and he's going to stink up the joint, and get booed to the moon. I tend to think doing anything besides letting Daniel Bryan close the show holding the World Title(s) is a mistake, and the crowd will likely bury the match live if that doesn't happen. Every single word of this. I couldn't possibly agree more. True. The problem is, even if they have Bryan win the Title at the Chamber, they've blown there big payoff in an obvious attempt to try and save things. All they had to do was have Bryan win the Rumble, Lesnar win at the Chamber and there you have your Main Event, along with John Cena vs Undertaker, and Batista vs Randy Orton. As far as I can see they have one last option. Have Bryan lose at the Chamber once again to everyone's dismay, and have him win an impromptu MITB Match at Wrestlemania, later cashing in. The only problem is that even still, Orton and Batista would have to have the Match.
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Post by IRS on Jan 28, 2014 15:06:10 GMT -5
I still haven't the faintest clue why everyone thinks Hogan can wrestle. Have you seen his last match in TNA? He's lucky he can walk. If he went for the leg drop, his spine would probably shatter at this point. I don't think he has to do much of anything if you set up a tag...he's basically out there for nostalgia purposes more than anything else. Surely he can at the very least throw a few punches, carefully be taken down from behind or something, Hulk Up and let Cena do the rest. Totally not out of the question in my mind... I very highly doubt that he would even get medical clearance from WWE. I'm sure he'll make an appearance, but he should not be in any sort of wrestling role.
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Post by punksnotdead on Jan 28, 2014 15:22:09 GMT -5
Every single word of this. I couldn't possibly agree more. True. The problem is, even if they have Bryan win the Title at the Chamber, they've blown there big payoff in an obvious attempt to try and save things. All they had to do was have Bryan win the Rumble, Lesnar win at the Chamber and there you have your Main Event, along with John Cena vs Undertaker, and Batista vs Randy Orton. As far as I can see they have one last option. Have Bryan lose at the Chamber once again to everyone's dismay, and have him win an impromptu MITB Match at Wrestlemania, later cashing in. The only problem is that even still, Orton and Batista would have to have the Match. It really wouldn't be impromptu though. We are far enough out that they could announce the match right after Chamber and Bryan could earn his way into the match relatively quickly. With only one World Title, it makes sense to bring back MITB at Mania to get a bunch of guys on the card imo. Yes, it would be extremely obvious the intent of the entire situation, but some times giving us the obvious outcome is just fine, as it would be in that situation imo. It's certainly an option and we haven't seen a cash-in at Mania yet, what better time than now with a guy this over? I would imagine that would probably impact any ideas they had for the MITB PPV but they could also do KOTR or create a new similar concept out of necessity. It's definitely a better idea than not fixing the situation, but I don't see them going that route. I think most people would be willing to sit through Orton vs Batista if it meant getting a gigantic MITB cash-in to close the show. Wouldn't it be symbolic for Bryan to steal the title back from Orton with the MITB case? Full circle storytelling.
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Post by Epic Z on Jan 28, 2014 15:25:44 GMT -5
Bray Wyatt vs Taker!? No thanks
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Post by BIG SUPERSTAR on Jan 28, 2014 16:22:22 GMT -5
Undertakers retirement? vs Sting coming down from the rafters that would be epic! I know a little to late but come now.
I know I am getting boooos Hogan vs Cena wait for it! (Hand to my ear)
Daniel vs. Batista daniel makes batista Tap! new wwe world chamption! it really should not end any other way no offense to anyone but wwe is starting to sound like wcw when they use to boo Hogan!
Punk vs. Triple H I guess punk make most matches awesome I know he could carry.
Wyatt? Really I don't know you fill in the blank if Jericho is indeed back I guess he can job to him like he did to fandango who is jobing to everyone as of late shoot!
Sheamus can battle Brock I guess the two pasteies!
Aj my fave defends against Tamika or Naomi or triple treat? please give divas one divas championship geez they are due! not pre show please!
mania Battle royal but with the rest Christian,curtis Axel,Antonio Cesaro,Jack Swagger,Damien Sandow,Dolph Ziggler,Miz,Great Khali,Mark Henry,JTG,AlbertoDel Rio,Bad news Barrett,big show,brodus clay,Tensai,Curtis hawkins,3mb,santino Marella,yoshi tatsu,Zack ryder,xavier Woods,william regal, Justin gabriel,tyson kidd, Ricardo rodrigues,sin cara,hunico,Evan bourne,fandango,ezekiel Jackson,David otunga,booker t,camacho, r truth,diego, fernando,rey mysterio, kofi Kingston,Ryback did I miss some one? 40 man so everynone gets a spot pre show if need be but make if for a us or ic championship match at mania title shot? this would possibly make up for our horrible royal rumbel geez!
obviously this battle royal changes the three matches below and adjust above accordingly
big e vs romans for championship
dean ambrose vs seth?
And tag championship fatal four way whit those on main roster that are not in battle royal road dogg/gunn ussos prime time wyatts
oh yeah goldust vs Cody rhodes
too manny maches? I don't think so for the bigest pro wrestling event of the year less promos for ppv and I guess a squash match sort of is needed as long both guys get there big moves in lol.
ok I want to hear it guys what do you think I will not get offended.11 matches scratching either us championship match or scratching ic match and adjusting those wrestlers into battle royal.
p.s. I love when I hear some one is not clear to wrestle if Vince God bless him can make a dime off of you it will happen period!/if they get Goldberg this may change card obviously./RVD I believe may be gone ;(
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2014 16:38:54 GMT -5
I think this would be a good card-
Shield triple threat- reigns wins us title
Nao vs usos- usos win
Punk vs hhh- punk wins
Bryan vs Batista- I'm pretty sure this won't happen-Bryan wins
Cena w/hogan vs bray Wyatt- makes perfect sense, I'm pretty sure -cena wins
Orton vs sheamus- it will most likely be Orton vs Batista& Bryan vs sheamus but I hope not-sheamus wins
Aj lee vs tamina- pre show-aj wins
Cody vs goldust- dusty as ref-heel Cody wins
Taker vs lesnar- lesnar wins taker retires
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Post by @Sweetbob on Jan 28, 2014 16:42:47 GMT -5
How do they SAVE Wrestlemania?
Give it away for free with WWE Network subscription.
BOOM! Solved.
Next question, please...
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Post by bigshab421 on Jan 28, 2014 17:07:16 GMT -5
True. The problem is, even if they have Bryan win the Title at the Chamber, they've blown there big payoff in an obvious attempt to try and save things. All they had to do was have Bryan win the Rumble, Lesnar win at the Chamber and there you have your Main Event, along with John Cena vs Undertaker, and Batista vs Randy Orton. As far as I can see they have one last option. Have Bryan lose at the Chamber once again to everyone's dismay, and have him win an impromptu MITB Match at Wrestlemania, later cashing in. The only problem is that even still, Orton and Batista would have to have the Match. It really wouldn't be impromptu though. We are far enough out that they could announce the match right after Chamber and Bryan could earn his way into the match relatively quickly. With only one World Title, it makes sense to bring back MITB at Mania to get a bunch of guys on the card imo. Yes, it would be extremely obvious the intent of the entire situation, but some times giving us the obvious outcome is just fine, as it would be in that situation imo. It's certainly an option and we haven't seen a cash-in at Mania yet, what better time than now with a guy this over? I would imagine that would probably impact any ideas they had for the MITB PPV but they could also do KOTR or create a new similar concept out of necessity. It's definitely a better idea than not fixing the situation, but I don't see them going that route. I think most people would be willing to sit through Orton vs Batista if it meant getting a gigantic MITB cash-in to close the show. Wouldn't it be symbolic for Bryan to steal the title back from Orton with the MITB case? Full circle storytelling. That idea has me salivating. Could you imagine the frenzy in New Orleans that would occur? They could have a huge MITB with: Bryan/Sheamus/Jericho/Ziggler/Christian/Big Show/Fandango/Miz I'd go with this lineup if it meant Bryan winning over Orton at the end: Batista/Orton (c) Taker/Lesnar (No DQ) Cena/Wyatt HHH/Punk Bryan/Sheamus/Jericho/Ziggler/Christian/Big Show/Fandango/Miz (MITB) Emma/AJ (c) Henry/Big E (c) Goldust/Cody Reigns/Rollins/Ambrose (c) Real Americans/Usos/Rey & Cara/New Age Outlaws (c)
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Post by RollinsFan44 on Jan 28, 2014 17:18:56 GMT -5
Gimme Undertaker vs Sting and I'll be happy!
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Post by Nick the Quick on Jan 28, 2014 17:28:51 GMT -5
True. The problem is, even if they have Bryan win the Title at the Chamber, they've blown there big payoff in an obvious attempt to try and save things. All they had to do was have Bryan win the Rumble, Lesnar win at the Chamber and there you have your Main Event, along with John Cena vs Undertaker, and Batista vs Randy Orton. As far as I can see they have one last option. Have Bryan lose at the Chamber once again to everyone's dismay, and have him win an impromptu MITB Match at Wrestlemania, later cashing in. The only problem is that even still, Orton and Batista would have to have the Match. It really wouldn't be impromptu though. We are far enough out that they could announce the match right after Chamber and Bryan could earn his way into the match relatively quickly. With only one World Title, it makes sense to bring back MITB at Mania to get a bunch of guys on the card imo. Yes, it would be extremely obvious the intent of the entire situation, but some times giving us the obvious outcome is just fine, as it would be in that situation imo. It's certainly an option and we haven't seen a cash-in at Mania yet, what better time than now with a guy this over? I would imagine that would probably impact any ideas they had for the MITB PPV but they could also do KOTR or create a new similar concept out of necessity. It's definitely a better idea than not fixing the situation, but I don't see them going that route. I think most people would be willing to sit through Orton vs Batista if it meant getting a gigantic MITB cash-in to close the show. Wouldn't it be symbolic for Bryan to steal the title back from Orton with the MITB case? Full circle storytelling. It still wouldn't be any less predictable than WM29, only this time, people will actually care about the ending
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Jan 28, 2014 17:30:15 GMT -5
Taker vs lesnar- lesnar wins taker retires
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2014 17:34:01 GMT -5
Taker vs lesnar- lesnar wins taker retires takers almost done and had very few matches left, now is the best chance to retire him and end the streak
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Jan 28, 2014 17:37:27 GMT -5
takers almost done and had very few matches left, now is the best chance to retire him and end the streak Why does the Streak have to end at all? Its the crowning achievement of WWE's greatest employee (even though he isn't their biggest star). And if it does have to end why does Lesnar deserve what would be arguably the greatest win in wrestling history?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2014 17:41:04 GMT -5
takers almost done and had very few matches left, now is the best chance to retire him and end the streak Why does the Streak have to end at all? Its the crowning achievement of WWE's greatest employee (even though he isn't their biggest star). And if it does have to end why does Lesnar deserve what would be arguably the greatest win in wrestling history? it could be somebody else but ending the streak makes sense. Here's my reason: taker will always be a huge star but ending the streak automatically establishes a megastar
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2014 17:43:20 GMT -5
It really wouldn't be impromptu though. We are far enough out that they could announce the match right after Chamber and Bryan could earn his way into the match relatively quickly. With only one World Title, it makes sense to bring back MITB at Mania to get a bunch of guys on the card imo. Yes, it would be extremely obvious the intent of the entire situation, but some times giving us the obvious outcome is just fine, as it would be in that situation imo. It's certainly an option and we haven't seen a cash-in at Mania yet, what better time than now with a guy this over? I would imagine that would probably impact any ideas they had for the MITB PPV but they could also do KOTR or create a new similar concept out of necessity. It's definitely a better idea than not fixing the situation, but I don't see them going that route. I think most people would be willing to sit through Orton vs Batista if it meant getting a gigantic MITB cash-in to close the show. Wouldn't it be symbolic for Bryan to steal the title back from Orton with the MITB case? Full circle storytelling. That idea has me salivating. Could you imagine the frenzy in New Orleans that would occur? They could have a huge MITB with: Bryan/Sheamus/Jericho/Ziggler/Christian/Big Show/Fandango/Miz I'd go with this lineup if it meant Bryan winning over Orton at the end: Batista/Orton (c) Taker/Lesnar (No DQ) Cena/Wyatt HHH/Punk Bryan/Sheamus/Jericho/Ziggler/Christian/Big Show/Fandango/Miz (MITB) Emma/AJ (c) Henry/Big E (c) Goldust/Cody Reigns/Rollins/Ambrose (c) Real Americans/Usos/Rey & Cara/New Age Outlaws (c) I think that's pretty close to the actual card but I see aj vs tamina and usos vs nao. Also I'm pretty sure we will see shield triple threat not big e ic title match
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Jan 28, 2014 17:45:48 GMT -5
Why does the Streak have to end at all? Its the crowning achievement of WWE's greatest employee (even though he isn't their biggest star). And if it does have to end why does Lesnar deserve what would be arguably the greatest win in wrestling history? it could be somebody else but ending the streak makes sense. Here's my reason: taker will always be a huge star but ending the streak automatically establishes a megastar I disagree. 'Taker doesn't have nearly enough title wins or huge victories outside of the Streak despite his huge status, and he deserves to have it in tact. As for a megastar... no one who wasn't already big could end the streak because it just wouldn't be believable. Anyone who was big enough could be made a megastar without doing it. 'Taker is the most popular guy on the roster (even more than Bryan, NO ONE dislikes Undertaker) and anyone who ends it would be an instant heel for life, which is something they'll want to avoid with any rising star. I don't think it should ever be ended, but if ever there was a time to do it it was Orton at WM 21. Guy who would almost always be a heel and was a rising star with the perfect gimmick for it. But Orton wisely turned down 'Taker's offer because he knew that the win would be as much a curse as a gift, and that Undertaker deserved to keep the streak intact.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2014 17:49:12 GMT -5
it could be somebody else but ending the streak makes sense. Here's my reason: taker will always be a huge star but ending the streak automatically establishes a megastar I disagree. 'Taker doesn't have nearly enough title wins or huge victories outside of the Streak despite his huge status, and he deserves to have it in tact. As for a megastar... no one who wasn't already big could end the streak because it just wouldn't be believable. Anyone who was big enough could be made a megastar without doing it. 'Taker is the most popular guy on the roster (even more than Bryan, NO ONE dislikes Undertaker) and anyone who ends it would be an instant heel for life, which is something they'll want to avoid with any rising star. I don't think it should ever be ended, but if ever there was a time to do it it was Orton at WM 21. Guy who would almost always be a heel and was a rising star with the perfect gimmick for it. But Orton wisely turned down 'Taker's offer because he knew that the win would be as much a curse as a gift, and that Undertaker deserved to keep the streak intact. I get your point but I want the streak ended. Btw I'm not a taker fan.
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Post by ahunter8056 on Jan 28, 2014 17:51:45 GMT -5
How exactly does WWE need saving? They're a multi-billion dollar company. These smarks who think they know how to do everything better are so annoying. There is a reason that WWE is a multi-billion dollar company. They know what they're doing.
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Jan 28, 2014 17:54:19 GMT -5
I disagree. 'Taker doesn't have nearly enough title wins or huge victories outside of the Streak despite his huge status, and he deserves to have it in tact. As for a megastar... no one who wasn't already big could end the streak because it just wouldn't be believable. Anyone who was big enough could be made a megastar without doing it. 'Taker is the most popular guy on the roster (even more than Bryan, NO ONE dislikes Undertaker) and anyone who ends it would be an instant heel for life, which is something they'll want to avoid with any rising star. I don't think it should ever be ended, but if ever there was a time to do it it was Orton at WM 21. Guy who would almost always be a heel and was a rising star with the perfect gimmick for it. But Orton wisely turned down 'Taker's offer because he knew that the win would be as much a curse as a gift, and that Undertaker deserved to keep the streak intact. I get your point but I want the streak ended. Btw I'm not a taker fan. Fair enough. But there isn't a wrestler on earth who would get cheered over 'Taker at WM. Rock/Austin comebacks would probably be 50/50 at best (assuming they lose) and neither would ever happen anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2014 17:54:31 GMT -5
How exactly does WWE need saving? They're a multi-billion dollar company. These smarks who think they know how to do everything better are so annoying. There is a reason that WWE is a multi-billion dollar company. They know what they're doing. it's mostly these Bryan lovers who thinks wwe sucks since he's not champ
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