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Feb 10, 2014 14:28:00 GMT -5
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Post by adzy on Feb 10, 2014 14:28:00 GMT -5
Wrestlers didn't have 'movesets'? For instance Randy Orton does powerslam, DDT off the ropes and RKO, but what if in another match he did diving clothesline, German suplex then cloverleaf for the win? On one hand each match would be unique and have an extra layer of unpredictability and probably be technically better, but on the other a moveset kinda defines a wrestlers character and the signature moves draw a pop from the crowd. Thought this might be interesting to discuss.
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Post by T R W on Feb 10, 2014 14:30:38 GMT -5
I feel like wrestlers use to switch things up a lot more, especially in the NWA heyday. But the WWE has never really been about wrestling, despite having performers who are more than capable of mixing it up and putting on a clinic if allowed to do so.
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Post by ztj_wwf on Feb 10, 2014 14:32:09 GMT -5
You just need wrestlers to try different moves every now and then. Cena has done it quite a bit since returning from injury.
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Feb 10, 2014 14:37:50 GMT -5
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Post by adzy on Feb 10, 2014 14:37:50 GMT -5
I feel like wrestlers use to switch things up a lot more, especially in the NWA heyday. But the WWE has never really been about wrestling, despite having performers who are more than capable of mixing it up and putting on a clinic if allowed to do so. Exactly, every wrestler on the roster has years of training and experience and obviously will know dozens of moves, so they should be allowed to show it a little. And if people were winning matches with different moves you wouldn't know when the finish would be, but i think the concept of a 'finisher' is too much a part of the character for that to change.
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Feb 10, 2014 14:39:06 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2014 14:39:06 GMT -5
Everybody does the same sh*t over and over.
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Post by T R W on Feb 10, 2014 14:42:54 GMT -5
I feel like wrestlers use to switch things up a lot more, especially in the NWA heyday. But the WWE has never really been about wrestling, despite having performers who are more than capable of mixing it up and putting on a clinic if allowed to do so. Exactly, every wrestler on the roster has years of training and experience and obviously will know dozens of moves, so they should be allowed to show it a little. And if people were winning matches with different moves you wouldn't know when the finish would be, but i think the concept of a 'finisher' is too much a part of the character for that to change. I'm fine with finishers. But I just wish the matches themselves had a bit more variety to them these days. Wrestling has always been predictable, but usually just the outcomes. But now the moves and matches themselves are very repetitive and predictable, which is sad and disappointing. Nobody expects guys like Batista and Ryback to put on a technical masterpiece. But I wish they would give the guys on the roster who have the ability to do so a chance to do it. Especially the lower card guys.
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Post by Prophet of Ash on Feb 10, 2014 14:45:45 GMT -5
there's no such thing as a moveset. It's a thing created for video games because of limitations on that platform. People on this board could really use some reprogramming in that regard. Movesets are not a thing. If they were, then it wouldn't be a work. It'd be a video game. It'd be a race to do moves the fastest with no psychology. Building the story of the match is based around adaptability and knowing what the crowd does and doesn't want to see. You can't work the same way in front of a dead crowd in Idaho for a Smackdown taping as you can in front of a PWG crowd. Trent Barretta learned this quickly and painfully.
WWE matches are very formulaic because there's only 5-10 minutes for the match. You can't put the psychology and the story into a five minute match, especially when you've got the element that at any time, a producer can be screaming into the ref's ear piece to take it home. You want to watch "wrestling without movesets", watch PWG. It is unpredictable, and it is a lot more fun.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2014 15:07:39 GMT -5
there's no such thing as a moveset. It's a thing created for video games because of limitations on that platform. People on this board could really use some reprogramming in that regard. Movesets are not a thing. If they were, then it wouldn't be a work. It'd be a video game. It'd be a race to do moves the fastest with no psychology. Building the story of the match is based around adaptability and knowing what the crowd does and doesn't want to see. You can't work the same way in front of a dead crowd in Idaho for a Smackdown taping as you can in front of a PWG crowd. Trent Barretta learned this quickly and painfully. WWE matches are very formulaic because there's only 5-10 minutes for the match. You can't put the psychology and the story into a five minute match, especially when you've got the element that at any time, a producer can be screaming into the ref's ear piece to take it home. You want to watch "wrestling without movesets", watch PWG. It is unpredictable, and it is a lot more fun. Or wrestling without wrestling. CZW!
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Post by wyleecyotee on Feb 10, 2014 15:34:40 GMT -5
I'd like wrestlers to have set moves eye, mix it up but still have signature moves (that's never gunna change).
I'd love everyone to have a moveset that sets up a finisher for the head, neck and one for the legs, arms and one for the body that all have unique endings that are set for them. It's more effort but if your good enough then you should do it no problem.
To be fair sheamus did well for a while building the Celtic cross, brogue kick, white noise an the cloverleaf but seems to only go with the brogue kick now.
I just want wrestlers to seem like they think of a gameplan more rather than "I'm gunna go out there, shoulder block, spinning backdrop, fist drop, aa" repeat
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